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  • joecole1711's Avatar
    3 posts since Oct '05
    • Hi bros, is it legal or not to view or download porn from internet??
      If it is illegal then why everybody is doing that and nobody is caught...
      Can someone enlight this issue...

  • sgdiehard's Avatar
    5,241 posts since Jul '04
    • Originally posted by joecole1711:
      Hi bros, is it legal or not to view or download porn from internet??
      If it is illegal then why everybody is doing that and nobody is caught...
      Can someone enlight this issue...

      is it the copyrights issue or a moral issue you are having problem with?

      Everybody is doing does not mean it is legal, and nobody is caught does not mean they won't get caught.

  • ceecookie's Avatar
    9,670 posts since May '04
    • it is illegal for u to save any porn materials including porn programs...however it is legal to see porn materials....its like the see but dun take sign at nature reserves Mr. Green Example u can go adultfriendfinder....not illegal yes..but u save any of the pics then illegal...

  • hisoka's Avatar
    37,644 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by ceecookie:
      it is illegal for u to [b]save any porn materials including porn programs...however it is legal to see porn materials....its like the see but dun take sign at nature reserves Mr. Green Example u can go adultfriendfinder....not illegal yes..but u save any of the pics then illegal...[/b]

      not sure leh cos your comp will save the images one as you view the last i checked that particular issue not resolved

  • ceecookie's Avatar
    9,670 posts since May '04
    • Originally posted by hisoka:
      not sure leh cos your comp will save the images one as you view the last i checked that particular issue not resolved

      thats the cache or something like that....for Mozilla FireFox u have to click Tools>Options>Privacy>Clear all to clear eveything so ur tracks will be covered...dun use Netscape coz when i do so the yahoo searchbox, when u click many time the lists of what u type would be there......thats why i use firefox..safer..

  • hisoka's Avatar
    37,644 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by ceecookie:
      thats the cache or something like that....for Mozilla FireFox u have to click Tools>Options>Privacy>Clear all to clear eveything so ur tracks will be covered...dun use Netscape coz when i do so the yahoo searchbox, when u click many time the lists of what u type would be there......thats why i use firefox..safer..

      but still got save mah and hor the delete files/cache content is only logical deletion not real deletion wor the only way is to overwrite the specific same memory location

  • robertteh's Avatar
    4,307 posts since Jul '04
    • Internet is one of man's greatest inventions.

      It is both a private communication tool and yet it is accessible to anyone who wishes to communicate thereby likely to be construed as public.

      It affords the citizens a means to communicate with all other citizens without any intention to mass-circulate like the newspapers or tv. It is so convenient of usage that it has become prevalent and there is no way any government can ban it or stop its widespread use for good or evil. So for this reason pornography on internet is difficult of prosecution. There is also the issue of internationality where nets cannot really be regarded in resident in any particular territory. Many local sites are hyperlinked to others which are foreign.

      So because it is both private and publicly accessible, wrongfulness on net may be more difficult to stop unless government wants to ride roughshod over particular citizens or do so by way of gerrymandering like in the past in passing of certain laws for political purpose. Government therefore will have to change their policies towards freedoms of expressions etc. in the age of internet communications among citizens becoming possible for both private and public communication purpose.

      It will be illogical and irrational to stop people from communicating with one another through internet website, forums, email or blogs just because of certain exposure to wrongfulness.

      Just try to answer this question : does the government need to stop the citizens' internationally convenient communication tool both of private and public characteristics just to go after a few wrongdoers or a few crimes?

      Another question to ask: should people who commits any wrongs on internet be prosecuted to the same extent as crimes committed in openness or mass media or other public places.

  • robertteh's Avatar
    4,307 posts since Jul '04
    • [quote="robertteh"]Internet is one of man's greatest inventions.

      It is both a private communication tool and yet it is accessible to anyone who wishes to communicate thereby likely to be construed as public.

      It affords the citizens a means to communicate with all other citizens without any intention to mass-circulate like the newspapers or tv. It is so convenient of usage that it has become prevalent and there is no way any government can ban it or stop its widespread use for good or evil. So for this reason pornography on internet is difficult of prosecution. There is also the issue of internationality where nets cannot really be regarded in resident in any particular territory. Many local sites are hyperlinked to others which are foreign.

      So because it is both private and publicly accessible, wrongfulness on net may be more difficult to stop unless government wants to ride roughshod over particular citizens or do so by way of gerrymandering like in the past in passing of certain laws for political purpose. Government therefore will have to change their policies towards freedoms of expressions etc. in the age of internet communications among citizens becoming possible for both private and public communication purpose.

      It will be illogical and irrational to stop people from communicating with one another through internet website, forums, email or blogs just because of certain exposure to wrongfulness.

      Just try to answer this question : does the government need to stop the citizens' internationally convenient communication tool both of private and public characteristics just to go after a few wrongdoers or a few crimes?

      Another question to ask: should people who commits any wrongs on internet be prosecuted to the same extent as crimes committed in openness or mass media or other public places.[/quote]

      (Reply to Robertteh by Feral Cat at CNA on 28.10.2005} If you seem to questioned and have so much doubt about where the internet will lead mankind to....you can ALWAYS MAROON YOURSELF ON A ISLAND without outside interference or modern civilisation advancement to trouble you !

      But then again if you were to do so, I doubt you will be able to post your threads and comments on CNA forum web site! Twisted Evil Very Happy

      {Robertteh}The goodness of internet is presumed by you in your statement. If it is full of goodness, then why start all the actions on bloggers to pave the way to extend control on the internet.

      Is there a proper study on differences between internet medium and newspaper or other mass media. Citizens have the right to ask question and not to be asked to be marooned on any island to allow control freaks to predominate to the next century with all kinds of gerrymandering. What is wrong will always be wrong like the NKF. It is of no use trying to justify wrongs.

      Edited by robertteh 28 Oct `05, 6:44PM
  • The man who was death's Avatar
    19,052 posts since Mar '05
  • Marco_Simone's Avatar
    5,633 posts since Feb '04
    • If the govt really want to catch home users,then the police don't need to work on other cases liao. Wink

  • robertteh's Avatar
    4,307 posts since Jul '04
    • Sedition across actual or cyber borders is not counted as sedition. Sedition in other blogs outside Singapore like in Iran will not cause concern according to our laws and system. Our bloggers who are seditious will be instantly punished whereas for seditions posted in Iran, but hyperlinked to our local blogs on same page, nothing can be done!!

      It is all in the name of pragmatism or leadership. For pragmatism, all the principles of fairness and equity are not important.

      So welfare is bad but double charging of citizens on lands and triple vehicle taxes (excise duty, COE and ERP) are good leadership as government can accumulate surpluses for bigger salaries and bonuses of NKF type.

      The rest of problems like high costs or GLCs' privatising to charge higher fees and unfair competitions against citizens for business are leadership and pragmatism.

  • ShutterBug's Avatar
    6,078 posts since Feb '04
    • If I ask you; have you been surfing porn sites?
      And you said; NO!

      I then cannot object by saying you did, because I have NO GROUNDS, to prove that you have.

      But then if I did not ask you, and you said; I have been surfing porn sites and downloading porn clips and pics.

      I will then, have a reason to believe that you have. But still, I will need evidence or proof of your online activities.

      Get it?

      Everybody knows, that practically everybody, have visited porn sites. What's the BIG FAT HAIRY DEAL???

      Already with porn in abundance on the Internet, people can't seem to make babies! Does the authorities want a society that doesn't even know how to screw????

  • Alfresco coffeeshop's Avatar
    565 posts since Sep '05
    • if catch people for watching porn on net, the whole of singapore how many people guilty!!?

  • dragg's Avatar
    49,302 posts since Mar '05
    • it is actually not about the downloading but if anyone is complaining.

      normally the govt are forced to act only because someone tipped them off.

  • cornyfish2000's Avatar
    2,051 posts since Nov '04
    • One way that one might get caught:

      You're house is raided because you have been caught downloading mp3s... Your computer is sent to the CID computer forensics branch for examination and TADA!! they found lots of porn files in your hard drive... you may have deleted them, but traces still remain in your hard drive. Worse still, they turn your cupboards and find porn CDs.

      You'll then be charged with another count of possessing obscene materials. Twisted Evil

  • ShutterBug's Avatar
    6,078 posts since Feb '04
    • Rediculous.

      Porn is now a days common in PCs at home. It's just a matter of how much one indulges in ADULT ENTERTAINMENT. For minors, Parental Guidance is important, but cannot totally evade or avoid the issue of porn altogether. The more a thing is restricted or prohibitted, the SWEETER it is.

      If they raid every home in Singapore, then they'd have 90% of SIngapore's population behind bars.

  • dragg's Avatar
    49,302 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by ShutterBug:
      Rediculous.

      Porn is now a days common in PCs at home. It's just a matter of how much one indulges in ADULT ENTERTAINMENT. For minors, Parental Guidance is important, but cannot totally evade or avoid the issue of porn altogether. The more a thing is restricted or prohibitted, the SWEETER it is.

      If they raid every home in Singapore, then they'd have 90% of SIngapore's population behind bars.

      more that 90% lar.

      Embarassed

  • cornyfish2000's Avatar
    2,051 posts since Nov '04
    • Originally posted by dragg:
      more that 90% lar.

      Embarassed

      Well, i'm sure the old foggies and girls don't watch porn... mainly only males aged 12 to 60.. Laughing

  • oxford mushroom's Avatar
    4,923 posts since Mar '05
    • I thought they are bringing in nude shows to the Integrated resorts already, so where’s the moral platform to prohibit porn?

  • dragg's Avatar
    49,302 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by cornyfish2000:
      Well, i'm sure the old foggies and girls don't watch porn... mainly only males aged 12 to 60.. Laughing

      i am sure girls nowadays watch porn too.

  • alexkusu's Avatar
    37,940 posts since Jan '05
  • oxford mushroom's Avatar
    4,923 posts since Mar '05
    • Porn industry is a big moneyspinner...someone should suggest to the EDB Chairman to send his beloved female A*STAR scholars into the porn industry Twisted Evil

  • hisoka's Avatar
    37,644 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by oxford mushroom:
      Porn industry is a big moneyspinner...someone should suggest to the EDB Chairman to send his beloved female A*STAR scholars into the porn industry Twisted Evil

      Laughing Laughing Laughing

      send them do first hand research Twisted Evil

  • fudgester's Avatar
    25,382 posts since Jan '04
    • From what I've been reading in the papers, those who do get nabbed for watching and downloading porn were mostly those who were already being nabbed for other crimes.

      For example, let's say there's this fraudster who cheats old people of their savings. He gets arrested in his home. When investigators look through his computer files, they may encounter some downloaded porn pics. So the fraudster will get charge with both fraud AND the totally unrelated charge of possessing porn.

      It's quite rare that someone gets charged for owning porn per se - unless if someone else decides to saboh him, of course.

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