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  • angel7030's Avatar
    30,628 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by marcos_84:

      haiz, on his blog looks so decent and nice. Why uh??? haiz…


      like this more dangerous, if look like ah beng or ah seng, i more relax

  • da-vid's Avatar
    139 posts since May '09
    • Originally posted by insidestory:

      This is what happens when we allow gay propagandists into our civil societies. wink.png It's not about Christianity vs homos.

      The 'war' was between conservative mainstream views held by the majority of Singaporeans against militant gays who wanted to make Singapore Singaypore.

      The gays who signed up with AWARE to vote may have won the battle, but it was Josie who won the war.

      This is his blog, yoursonlyandy.blogspot.com but it hasn't been updated since 2005.

       

      What? Gay people aren't trying to convert straight people to become gay. They're trying to convince you to be more tolerating. For example, they want the same rights as straight people, and they don't want you to discriminate against them because they're different.

      Okay, so it's tragic that a few gays raped some boys. However, don't you think there have been more straight adults that raped girls? You can't turn a blind eye to what straight people do and then when gay people do the same thing, you use it to say how homosexuality is wrong.

      Maybe it's because Singaporeans live in such a conservative, homophobic community that they don't see how untolerating they are. It saddens me, but at the same time makes me glad that although I live in Singapore, I'm not apart of its culture.

      Edited by da-vid 26 May `09, 7:13PM
  • Forbiddensinner's Avatar
    3,739 posts since Apr '09
    • Originally posted by marcos_84:

      haiz, on his blog looks so decent and nice. Why uh??? haiz…

      A lot of perverts look decent and nice. They do not carry placards around telling people "I will XXX you".

  • insidestory's Avatar
    630 posts since May '09
    • Originally posted by da-vid:

      What? Gay people aren't trying to convert straight people to become gay. They're trying to convince you to be more tolerating. For example, they want the same rights as straight people, and they don't want you to discriminate against them because they're different.

      Okay, so it's tragic that a few gays raped some boys. However, don't you think there have been more straight adults that raped girls? You can't turn a blind eye to what straight people do and then when gay people do the same thing, you use it to say how homosexuality is wrong.

      Maybe it's because Singaporeans live in such a conservative, homophobic community that they don't see how untolerating they are. It saddens me, but at the same time makes me glad that although I live in Singapore, I'm not apart of its culture.

      oh! u are condoning homosexuality? if everyone on the planet was homo, the world would have ended centuries ago. fact is homosexuality goes against evolution and natural selection. that is a fact. homos have been playing the evolution card to discredit religion which condemns them but they are ignorant that natural selection is their greatest enemy!!!!

      Natural selection means only those who have the attributes to perpetuate will survive, and those who do not get weeded out. So how can a gene that is unable to procreate stand up to the theory of natural selection hahaha?

  • dumbdumb!'s Avatar
    14,290 posts since Jan '03
  • insidestory's Avatar
    630 posts since May '09
    • Originally posted by dumbdumb!:

      anyway. hmm. NUS life too stressful i think

      That's a filmsy excuse. I assure you that my friends who went to top UK/US universities eg Cambridge, Yale, Harvard, MIT where the stress and load are one hundred times higher, testified that there was no such case of gay rapist among them.

  • charlize's Avatar
    31,131 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by dumbdumb!:

      don't hijack the topic.

       

      Can't stop it.

       

      The 2 camps in the AWARE saga will continue to be at it for some time. 

       

      That's the way it will be from now on. icon_lol.gif

       

       

       

       

  • da-vid's Avatar
    139 posts since May '09
    • Originally posted by insidestory:

      oh! u are condoning homosexuality? if everyone on the planet was homo, the world would have ended centuries ago. fact is homosexuality goes against evolution and natural selection. that is a fact. homos have been playing the evolution card to discredit religion which condemns them but they are ignorant that natural selection is their greatest enemy!!!!

      Natural selection means only those who have the attributes to perpetuate will survive, and those who do not get weeded out. So how can a gene that is unable to procreate stand up to the theory of natural selection hahaha?

      Are you saying we should discriminate against mentally retarded people and let them roam free and get themselves hurt, because that's what evolution dictates? The human race is a civilized species. Therefore, we help people in need. You can't condemn homosexuality to extinction.

      Now, do mentally retarded people find mates and have babies? No.

      Likewise, do two homosexual people reproduce? No. In fact, if homosexuality is genetic and gays are encouraged to stay in the closet and have a relationship with someone of the opposite sex, wouldn't that create more generations of homosexuals?

      You shouldn't discriminate against someone because they are different, period.

      You obviously don't understand natural selection anyway. Natural selection is when organisms with certain "unfavorable" traits cannot find mates, and therefore do not reproduce. By condenming someone's myopia, you can't make it go away. You also can't make a gay person straight, much like you can't make someone who was born without eyes able to see again. Evolution occurs when organisms reproduce; not during their lifespan.

      Who knows; maybe one day, after people finally accept homosexuals and they are encouraged to come out of the closet, that trait won't exist anymore.

      Edited by da-vid 26 May `09, 7:40PM
  • insidestory's Avatar
    630 posts since May '09
    • Originally posted by da-vid:

      Are you saying we should discriminate against mentally retarded people and let them roam free and get themselves hurt, because that's what evolution dictates? The human race is a civilized species. Therefore, we help people in need. You can't condemn homosexuality to extinction.

      Now, do mentally retarded people find mates and have babies? No.

      Likewise, do two homosexual people reproduce? No. In fact, if homosexuality is genetic and gays are encouraged to stay in the closet and have a relationship with someone of the opposite sex, wouldn't that create more generations of homosexuals?

      You shouldn't discriminate against someone because they are different, period.

      You obviously don't understand natural selection anyway. Natural selection is when organisms with certain "unfavorable" traits cannot find mates, and therefore do not reproduce. By condenming someone's myopia, you can't make it go away. You also can't make a gay person straight, much like you can't make someone who was born without eyes able to see again. Evolution occurs when organisms reproduce; not during their lifespan.

      Who knows; maybe one day, after people finally accept homosexuals and they are encouraged to come out of the closet, that trait won't exist anymore.

      Alright. But i do not feel homosexuality is genetic. But that's all I wish to say about homosexuality's ill on society.

      This is after all about NUS gay Andy Lee Kee Liang!!!!

      He is from the NUS Chemical Engineering department. Hehe

      http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:MKJmBOLyV2YJ:www.chee.nus.edu.sg/undergrad/mentors/2005-06Year1_MentorsList_Aug06.xls+%22Andy+Lee+Kee+Liang%22+NUS+chemical&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=sg

      Mentors-Mentees

        A B C D E F 1 National University of Singapore 2 Department of Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering 3             4 Mentors - Mentees List 5 Students Matriculated in AY 2005/2006 6             7 S/No. Matric No. Name of Student Sex Grp Mentor 8 1 U059136U ANDY LEE KEE LIANG M 1A Chen, S.B. 9 2 U059118Y ONG PENG BIN M 1A Chen, S.B.

      Edited by insidestory 26 May `09, 8:00PM
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    119,568 posts since Nov '03
  • da-vid's Avatar
    139 posts since May '09
    • Originally posted by insidestory:

      Alright. But i do not feel homosexuality is genetic. But that's all I wish to say about homosexuality's ill on society.

      This is after all about NUS gay Andy Lee!!!!

      I don't see how homosexuality negatively affects society or straight people. Why do straight people have to discriminate against homosexuals in order for them to live their lives?

      Homophobia is similar to racism in the 20th century, particularly with White/Black people in the US. There were seperate drinking fountains, Black people were forced to sit in the back of the bus, etc. Eventually, racism became considered politically incorrect, but more importantly, morally wrong. However, many less-developed societies still hold these prejudices, whether it may be against a certain race or a certain group of people.

      Also, from your previous post, I interpreted it to say that homosexuality is genetic, since you were talking about evolution and natural selection. Personally, I don't know what causes homosexuality, but I don't think it's a choice, much like how straight people don't choose to be attracted to the opposite sex. 

  • Fantagf's Avatar
    17,292 posts since Jun '08
    • Originally posted by angel7030:


      like this more dangerous, if look like ah beng or ah seng, i more relax


      ya lor huh, of course lah, becos u ah lian !

    • Calling all male at NUS, please be careful.

  • fudgester's Avatar
    25,382 posts since Jan '04
    • Originally posted by da-vid:

      I don't see how homosexuality negatively affects society or straight people. Why do straight people have to discriminate against homosexuals in order for them to live their lives?

      Homophobia is similar to racism in the 20th century, particularly with White/Black people in the US. There were seperate drinking fountains, Black people were forced to sit in the back of the bus, etc. Eventually, racism became considered politically incorrect, but more importantly, morally wrong. However, many less-developed societies still hold these prejudices, whether it may be against a certain race or a certain group of people.

      Also, from your previous post, I interpreted it to say that homosexuality is genetic, since you were talking about evolution and natural selection. Personally, I don't know what causes homosexuality, but I don't think it's a choice, much like how straight people don't choose to be attracted to the opposite sex. 

      Don't feed the troll.

      You're helping him hijack the topic.

  • dumbdumb!'s Avatar
    14,290 posts since Jan '03
    • Originally posted by insidestory:

      That's a filmsy excuse. I assure you that my friends who went to top UK/US universities eg Cambridge, Yale, Harvard, MIT where the stress and load are one hundred times higher, testified that there was no such case of gay rapist among them.

      haha. it's just something anyone is expected to say.

      and with regards to no such cases of gay rapists... you never know.... 

    • Originally posted by charlize:

      Can't stop it.

       

      The 2 camps in the AWARE saga will continue to be at it for some time. 

       

      That's the way it will be from now on. icon_lol.gif

       

      lol i just sense that lack of objectivity here. i mean, if there's a debate about the nature of homosexuality at the aware topic, i get it. 

      but in here?

      lol

    • lol. and a thought came to mind. mouth rape, lucky not ass raped. poor kids..

      Edited by dumbdumb! 26 May `09, 8:25PM
  • Forbiddensinner's Avatar
    3,739 posts since Apr '09
    • Originally posted by fudgester:

      Don't feed the troll.

      You're helping him hijack the topic.

      The problem is that the troll is the TS.

  • fudgester's Avatar
    25,382 posts since Jan '04
    • Originally posted by Forbiddensinner:

      The problem is that the troll is the TS.

      Oh ok....

      Then in that case, don't go in the TS' direction then.

  • angel7030's Avatar
    30,628 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by Fantagf:

      Calling all male at NUS, please be careful.


      NUS got male meh, i thot gay only

    • Originally posted by dumbdumb!:

      lol. and a thought came to mind. mouth rape, lucky not ass raped. poor kids..


      still rape mah..

    • Originally posted by da-vid:

      I don't see how homosexuality negatively affects society or straight people. Why do straight people have to discriminate against homosexuals in order for them to live their lives?

      Homophobia is similar to racism in the 20th century, particularly with White/Black people in the US. There were seperate drinking fountains, Black people were forced to sit in the back of the bus, etc. Eventually, racism became considered politically incorrect, but more importantly, morally wrong. However, many less-developed societies still hold these prejudices, whether it may be against a certain race or a certain group of people.

      Also, from your previous post, I interpreted it to say that homosexuality is genetic, since you were talking about evolution and natural selection. Personally, I don't know what causes homosexuality, but I don't think it's a choice, much like how straight people don't choose to be attracted to the opposite sex. 

      genetically, it is true that Homos are genetic, but some are from influences and environmental condition. Childhood is a very important stage of sex understanding, some boys may go sway inward and become gay as they hv no interest in facing gals.

      i am not worry about gay boys/men, my worry is those bisexual, can both play with men and gal. Some of the aunties who talk to my grandma, i overheard that their husband are bisexual, wha lau, hope i dun marry a man who is bisexual

  • Kuali Baba's Avatar
    24,120 posts since Nov '03
    • And so men who rape and molest girls are less dangerous to society? icon_rolleyes.gif Get a grip. There are way more of them out there than the gays who are criminal pervs.

      Edited by Kuali Baba 26 May `09, 9:01PM
  • jondizzle foshizzle's Avatar
    2,417 posts since Apr '07
    • Originally posted by insidestory:

      This is what happens when we allow gay propagandists into our civil societies. wink.png It's not about Christianity vs homos.

      The 'war' was between conservative mainstream views held by the majority of Singaporeans against militant gays who wanted to make Singapore Singaypore.

      The gays who signed up with AWARE to vote may have won the battle, but it was Josie who won the war.

      This is his blog, yoursonlyandy.blogspot.com but it hasn't been updated since 2005.

       

      People like you disgust me far more than any gay man ever could. Your statement of gays wanting to turn Singapore into 'Singaypore' is a sensationalist exaggeration as they merely want equal rights and not to be shunned by bigots like you.

      Your suggestion that gay propaganda causes people to be gay is completely unfounded as homosexuality isn't something you can be convinced to practice, it's decided at birth and there is a lot of scientific evidence to support that. Furthermore, since when has rape automatically entailed homosexuality? There is just as much, if not more heterosexual abuse. Does that mean that heterosexual influences in society are causing rape? No more than homosexual 'propaganda' does.

      The real problem lies not with homosexuals but with intolerant bastards like you.

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