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  • 李玟 往日情's Avatar
    64 posts since Mar '10
    • Lim Swee Say to Low Thia Kiang: We are deaf to all these criticisms

      March 4, 2010

      After being embarrassed in Parliament by WP MP Low Thia Kiang’s demolition of the labor movement’s ineptitude to help lower wage workers in Singapore, one would expect Minister Lim Swee Say and NTUC Secretary-General to come up with a robust argument to counter him.

      Instead, he used an unheard fable about a “kingdom of frogs” to brush aside Mr Low’s criticisms.

      “The story goes that in a kingdom of frogs, the tallest tower in the world is built for an annual competition. And when the event is held, many aim to become the champion by making it to the top, but fail as they are discouraged by the audience, who warn that the climb is too dangerous. All except one frog who did reach the top. And when asked afterwards why he ignored the crowd, the frog said: ‘I’m deaf. I can’t hear them’”, he said.

      The gist of Mr Lim’s message: Despite criticisms from Mr Low, the labour movement will continue to address problems faced by low-income Singaoreans.

      “We never give up. We are like the little frog. We are deaf to all these criticisms. So instead of telling us that low-wage workers are having problems, why not be part of the solution?,” he was quoted as saying in the Straits Times.

      As expected, the Straits Times tried to portray Mr Lim as the “victim” and pinning the blame on Mr Low for criticizing without offering solutions.

      Being paid almost $2 million dollars a year, Mr Lim ought to realize that it is the duty of MPs to ask questions and criticize if necessary in Parliament as in all modern democracies in the world. If he cannot stand the heat in the kitchen, he should get out of it!

      The onus is on Mr Lim to answer the questions posed by Mr Low and not to counter-challenge him to be “part of the solution”. The key role of the opposition is to check on the ruling party and to hold it accountable for its words and actions and not to do offer solutions for it to govern the nation.

      If Mr Lim wants Mr Low to offer solutions, then he should be prepared to give Mr Low a job in NTUC or other government committees and pay him a salary commensurate with his services.

      Mr Lim also reminded Mr Low that “the government always paid special attention to low-income earners and had introduced programmes like Workfare to supplement their income”, but the fact remains that low wage Singaporeans are still struggling due to direct competition from cheaper foreign workers.

      Furthermore, Mr Low did offer a solution to scrap the foreign worker levy and to refine the dependency ratio to moderate the inflow of foreign workers.

      Mr Lim’s attitude epitomizes a wider problem pervading the entire PAP – the inability to listen to others and accept feedback and criticisms in good faith.

      As the recent parliamentary sessions had shown, the PAP MPs are completely out of touch with the ground. It will be apt to describe them as a “kingdom of frogs” living in their own wells.

  • charlize's Avatar
    13,445 posts since Mar '05
    • There you have it.

       

      They are telling you outright they don't listen to anybody even if they keep doing the wrong thing over and over again.  icon_lol.gif

  • angel7030's Avatar
    22,683 posts since Jul '07
  • charlize's Avatar
    13,445 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by angel7030:

      And the one who created it will never be able to solve it.

      They create problems so that they can form a committee next time to solve the problems they created. icon_lol.gif

       

       

  • angel7030's Avatar
    22,683 posts since Jul '07
    • no, they create committee just to drink kopi, how can create something and said that there is a problem in it. Die die also said very good.

  • 李玟 往日情's Avatar
    64 posts since Mar '10
    • being the supreme, how can i admit any mistakes - just honest mistakes

      but sorry - you are a mortal only

      Edited by 李玟 往日情 04 Mar `10, 7:27PM
  • freedom4ever's Avatar
    2,555 posts since May '05
    • how did a deaf frog able to know if people are asking him question? tell story also never use brain to think.

  • pearlie27's Avatar
    1,142 posts since Nov '04
    • The storey teller was admitting that he was the deaf frog, we could complain for all we want he wouldn’t be bothered.

  • Medicated Oil's Avatar
    3,240 posts since Dec '03
    • If the frog is deaf, how can he responsed to any questions at all ?

      Sign Language for frogs ?

      The house have illustrated very clearly these millionsters cannot even defend and explain the policy that they have implemented and have to turn to blurring the questions with some frog tales.

      If the policy truly benefits, there is nothing to defend or explain.

      What is next ?

      Fish or dog tales to explain and defend policy ?

      Did we pay tax money for some bunch of pple to tell crap stories in the house ?

  • Junyang700's Avatar
    4,278 posts since Feb '08
    • In this case, we practise double loop learning. They say they are deaf, we, commoners, are also deaf to propaganda. Fair on both sides.

  • Medicated Oil's Avatar
    3,240 posts since Dec '03
    • They can pretend to be deaf as the policy that they made will enrich their pocket.

      We can act deaf but cannot run away from the money sucking policies that are implemented but not announced.

      If they can act deaf and dumb, why should they be entitled to our hard earned money ?

      If they dun serve, they should be removed immediately cos they are useless.

      Why should they be given 8.8% pay rise if they did not even solve any of the overcrowded problems that are caused by their greed ?

  • Mason H's Avatar
    83 posts since Feb '10
    • Originally posted by Junyang700:

      In this case, we practise double loop learning. They say they are deaf, we, commoners, are also deaf to propaganda. Fair on both sides.

      A nation of deaf.

      icon_lol.gif

  • likeyou's Avatar
    3,411 posts since Sep '06
  • Dondontan's Avatar
    1,617 posts since Jun '08
    • They are getting very bold to admit to turn a deaf ear.   Singaporeans are still very much docile and obedient.    An early congratulations to them to win the next election.

  • Clivebenss's Avatar
    5,100 posts since Feb '10
  • reyes's Avatar
    3,152 posts since Feb '04
    • i think lim sweee say is really deaf. coz he cannot hear Mr low suggestion.

      you are paid millions  of dollars and year and you are asking a MP to offer you a suggestion? how many PAP MP do really offer suggestion in parliament when challenging ministers policies? at most they feedback what the ground feel. typically of PAP ministers who often blame other for their own mistake.and misquote them.

       

      when we say, we dont want to many foreigners workers. they assume we dont want them. WTF!

  • likeyou's Avatar
    3,411 posts since Sep '06
    • They sometimes as for feedback. What for if you already trun a deaf ear???? Feedback for fun?

      I beginning to feel that there is a gap between the pple and the pap.

  • charlize's Avatar
    13,445 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by Clivebenss:

      Next election, let's vote for Kermit the Frog, he's a FT.

      icon_lol.gif

       

       

      He cannot be more entertaining than the current batch of entertainers we have in parliament. icon_lol.gif

  • angel7030's Avatar
    22,683 posts since Jul '07
    • But who care, along here, may include me, not even 20 peoples are laughing at them, the PAP.

  • Clivebenss's Avatar
    5,100 posts since Feb '10
    • Originally posted by charlize:

       

       

      He cannot be more entertaining than the current batch of entertainers we have in parliament. icon_lol.gif

      Actually there is some resemblence.

      Talk about frogs.

      icon_lol.gif

       

  • angel7030's Avatar
    22,683 posts since Jul '07
    • I think that green frog looks more cute....icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

       

      Well, i may laugh at it, but by next year this time, after the election, guess we will be still here listen to his songs and frog show.

      Frog porridge, Anyone!!!???

  • webben's Avatar
    214 posts since Mar '08
    • Shouldn't this be grounds for a reprimand? I'd love to mosey into the office and tell my boss I'm a frog who doesn't check emails, doesn't write reports and doesn't attend meetings (all the things I am PAID to do!)

  • likeyou's Avatar
    3,411 posts since Sep '06
    • Originally posted by angel7030:

      I think that green frog looks more cute....icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

       

      Well, i may laugh at it, but by next year this time, after the election, guess we will be still here listen to his songs and frog show.

      Frog porridge, Anyone!!!???


      Frog porridge mei hum.

  • charlize's Avatar
    13,445 posts since Mar '05
  • likeyou's Avatar
    3,411 posts since Sep '06
    • That is a very bad approach and attitude towards the ground. They are using a broom to sweep us inside the carpet.

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