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  • bic_cherry's Avatar
    440 posts since Jul '05
    • [Elected Presidency]: Some would s¢rap system altogether
      They see symbolic, unifying role as being at odds with custodian responsibilities
      ST, Sunday Times pg. B4, 29May2016.

      The swearing-in ceremony for Singapore's seventh President and third elected President, Dr Tony Tan Keng Yam, in the State Room of the Istana on Sept, 1, 2011. Among the suggestions floated at the public hearings held by the Constitutional Commission is a system where Parliament would elect the president, and a separate Council For Review would be set up to safeguard Singapore's reserves, with the chairman of the council elected by voters.ST FILE PHOTO

      While the Constitutional Commission's review parameters have three specific aspects - eligibility criteria, the role of presidential advisers, and providing for minority races - a fourth, left-of-field suggestion was also raised.
      At the public hearings held by the commission, some played the devil's advocate and said the elected presidency should be s¢rapped altogether. Some suggested returning to the original system of having a nominated president, and radically changing the election procedure.
      The ideas surfaced even though Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong had made it clear that such proposals would not be on the table.
      Announcing the impending review at the opening of Parliament in January, he said: "The President must remain an elected office. If the President is not elected, he will lack the mandate to wield his custodial powers."

      However, this did not stop Raffles Medical Group executive chairman Loo Choon Yong from saying, at one of the hearings, that the president should not be expected to shoulder the dual tasks of being both a ceremonial head as well as guardian of Singapore's reserves.
      As he put it, it is unrealistic to expect one person to be a unifying force as the symbolic head of state, and play what is essentially a divisive role if he has to stand up to the government in his role of custodian of the national reserves.
      "You want this guy to be the nice guy, unifier, and then you want him to have what it takes to tell a roguish prime minister, 'Hey, leave our assets alone.' I think these (requirements) call for different chemistries," Dr Loo said.
      To resolve this contradiction, both roles should be separated, he said, advocating a return to the pre-1991 system when the president was elected by Parliament, but with a twist.
      Under his proposal, Parliament would elect the president, and a separate Council For Review would be set up to safeguard Singapore's reserves, with the chairman of the council elected by voters.
      In this scenario, the president's role would largely be ceremonial and administrative - similar to the monarch in Britain, whose executive powers are limited by the Constitution. He would focus on receiving foreign diplomats, gracing important functions, and signing laws into effect.

      Returning to the old system would also allow Parliament to balance the responsibilities of the elected presidency with the need to ensure that Singapore has a minority president from time to time, said constitutional law expert Kevin Tan.
      To him, it was "no accident" that Singapore's first president was Mr Yusof Ishak, a Malay. He was followed by Eurasian Benjamin Sheares, then an Indian president, Mr C. V. Devan Nair, and after that, a Chinese president, Mr Wee Kim Wee. An elected system would not be able to guarantee this important aspect of the presidency, he said.

      Making the presidency an elected office also introduced politics into the mix, said lawyer Rey Foo.
      Several people at the hearing said the elected president is selected through a political process, even if the office itself is meant to be non-political and non-partisan. To win the election, candidates would have to campaign for votes, make speeches and promote themselves.
      Of course, not all the presidential elections have been contested. Of the four polls held since 1993, two were uncontested. But the last presidential election in 2011 was so politicised that some candidates made unrealistic promises to gain traction with voters, several people said.
      Out of the four candidates, two made spending promises outside the president's powers. They pledged to press for an allowance for the elderly, and to channel funds to schools and hospitals if they were to approve spending from the reserves, for instance.
      This confused voters, especially some who seemed to believe that the president had the power to provide checks and balance on all government matters, said Dr Loo.
      To avoid this, in-house legal officer Edwin Yeo proposed a "hybrid system", combining aspects of appointing and electing a president.
      He suggested that a presidential council could be set up to identify one candidate, in consultation with the prime minister. After the candidate is approved by Parliament, Singaporeans would vote for him by casting "yes" or "no" ballots. This avoids the divisiveness of pitting candidates against one another, he said.

      Then again, several commission members wondered if Singaporeans today could accept a return to the old way of having Parliament elect a president.
      "We are in the world of participation now. Individuals want to participate and they want to have a say," said Professor Chan Heng Chee, chairman of the Lee Kuan Yew Centre for Innovative Cities at the Singapore University of Technology and Design.
      Commission members also said that an elected president derived his "moral authority" from the people's mandate, and would be seen as independent.
      On the other hand, some might argue that since Parliament comprises elected representatives, there is an embedded mandate in getting the House to choose a president.
      Dr Tan said "just because someone is nominated and not elected does not deprive him of his independence", adding that people appointed to key roles would typically act accordingly.
      For Dr Loo, the review is an opportune time to consider the adoption of a simpler system.
      He said that given the 46 amendments to the Constitution over the last 25 years that reduced the President's custodial powers, the constant recalibrations showed that "combining these two jobs into one is not the best (move)". His parting shot: "Do it courageously."

      You want this guy to be the nice guy, unifier, and then you want him to have what it takes to tell a roguish prime minister, 'Hey, leave our assets alone.' I think these (requirements) call for different chemistries.
      RAFFLES MEDICAL GROUP EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN LOO CHOON YONG, on what's expected of an elected president.
      Tham Yuen-C
    • Smile Re: [Elected Presidency]: Some would s¢rap system altogether

      Originally Posted by sukhoi27 View Post
      Thread source (A1): Re: [Elected Presidency]: Some would s¢rap system altogether
      Its crazy for a so-called advance country like Singapore to have an elected President that has no majority support i.e. 64.8% people voted against him, and yet, our Parliament agreed for him to sign and pass law and regulation. 
      It leaves future generation to question the intelligence of our present leaders.. 

      In fact, he shouldnt sign anything at all.
      Guess that is a good reason why LHL says existence of EP is 'non-negotiable'. Current feedback process is just wayang show to convince minorities that they have not been forgotten but with the ulterior motive of just window-dressing the EP by increasing the EP popular vote counts through an arbitrary and artificial qualification scheme which would not stand the test of time.

      One lie begets another and it all began with GRC system which claimed to be inclusive to minorities but we all know that minorities would be MUCH BETTER SERVED with full SMC system of elections with the 'insurance' of NCMP and NMP system for minority representation: e.g. minimum minority representation in parliament via top up with most popular minority race NCMP and the various racial and religious groups (Bhuddist, Christian, Islam, Malay, Eurasian, Indian etc appointing their respective represents NMP in parliament).

      Now, focus is on REDUCING the possible number of candidates by tightening the qualification criteria so that hopefully, with much fewer or just 2 gahmen appointed competing candidates, every 'elected' President from now on will have > 50% popular citizen support unlike Dr Tony Tan whom (as U say), only 35.2% of people actually support. I.e.: the whole 'discussion' process is really just about window-dressing/ a big WAYANG show...
  • Hassanoman's Avatar
    3 posts since Jun '16
  • Needhelp2016's Avatar
    52 posts since Mar '16
    • The last win by Tony Tan was a close shave. If Tan Jee Say had not contested with Tan cheng Bock and Tony Tan, Tan cheng bock would have won.

      I suspect this lastest statement about 'voting for a minority from time to time to be president' has got something to do with the candidates whom had close relations with the PAP in the coming presidential elections. 


      Tan cheng bock hadclaimed that he will be taking part in the coming elections for president.

      Edited by Needhelp2016 28 Aug `16, 8:20AM
  • vicamour's Avatar
    1,479 posts since Jan '09
    • Talk about the next Prime minister instead. When is it going to be a non Chinese?

      The presidential seat has always been open to all races, the first being a Malay, then a Peranakan, and lately an Indian. 

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    9 posts since Nov '16
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