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  • Sepecat's Avatar
    118 posts since Jan '08
    • How does one aim the SAR 21 at night or in very low light conditions ?

      Trained on M16 and that had tritium sight on front post for aimimg at night.

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    5,887 posts since Jul '00
  • SingaporeTyrannosaur's Avatar
    5,953 posts since Jan '03
    • That said they should really start implementing a more tactical solution for night shooting then the LAD, not that the LAD is useless.

      Edited by SingaporeTyrannosaur 14 Jul `08, 3:07PM
  • gaoxingdcf07's Avatar
    111 posts since Jun '08
    • put tritium sight  on SAR21

      or

      put IR sights on it ~~~ issue the ppl with NVG so that at nite can shoot also ~~~

      juz my 2 cents worth

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    9,675 posts since Sep '03
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  • Man!x's Avatar
    216 posts since Jul '08
    • Originally posted by mr_sotong:

      i would suggest solving SAW iron sight 1st.

      cant hit a shit at night.

      SAW is good for one thing...creating cuts on your hand when trying to cock it. other than that cant do much at nite, just spray and pray

  • TVaddict's Avatar
    1,223 posts since Jan '03
  • I-like-flings(m)'s Avatar
    13,401 posts since Feb '04
    • Originally posted by TVaddict:

      can keep the enemy down can liao


      u mean when ran out of bullet... just on the LAD... and enemy will run like hell right?

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    5,887 posts since Jul '00
    • In that case, I better carry a few laser pointers with me in future.  Switch them on, tie them up and point.  The bugger ought to piss in his pants and surrender!

  • Sepecat's Avatar
    118 posts since Jan '08
    • Hey, my conclusion is that with the issued SAR21 you cannot aim it at night unless you turn on the LAD ?

      Someone better start working on a sight with illuminated reticle on the SAR21 !

  • SingaporeTyrannosaur's Avatar
    5,953 posts since Jan '03
    • Originally posted by Sepecat:

      Hey, my conclusion is that with the issued SAR21 you cannot aim it at night unless you turn on the LAD ?

      Someone better start working on a sight with illuminated reticle on the SAR21 !


      Officially yes, there is no way to aim at night at a non-illuminated target unless you use the LAD.

      But for me if there is enough light at night I'll use the emergency backup pistol sights, which are surprisingly effective.

  • TVaddict's Avatar
    1,223 posts since Jan '03
    • Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):


      u mean when ran out of bullet... just on the LAD... and enemy will run like hell right?

      my comment is meant for saw not sar 21

  • foxtrout8's Avatar
    1,165 posts since May '02
    • Originally posted by gaoxingdcf07:

      put tritium sight  on SAR21

      or

      put IR sights on it ~~~ issue the ppl with NVG so that at nite can shoot also ~~~

      juz my 2 cents worth


      Yap tritium reticles will be an economic solution for easy targeting in low light condition with or without NVG and light gathering fiber optics rail for day sighting. This combination is not expensive (as compare to other modern sights) but i dont understand why in the world SAF is not getting it.

      I sometimes dont understand how SAF work. Can spend billions on fighter planes but is not generous in providing quality small arms that is bread and butter for the essential ground troops. Baseline version of SAR-21, grandfather version of U100 and oh my goodness, P226.

      Another way around is to use the the red dot sight but it consumes electricity.

      Edited by foxtrout8 16 Jul `08, 11:32PM
  • SingaporeTyrannosaur's Avatar
    5,953 posts since Jan '03
    • Originally posted by foxtrout8:


      Yap tritium reticles will be an economic solution for easy targeting in low light condition with or without NVG and light gathering fiber optics rail for day sighting. This combination is not expensive (as compare to other modern sights) but i dont understand why in the world SAF is not getting it.

      I sometimes dont understand how SAF work. Can spend billions on fighter planes but is not generous in providing quality small arms that is bread and butter for the essential ground troops. Baseline version of SAR-21, grandfather version of U100 and oh my goodness, P226.

      Another way around is to use the the red dot sight but it consumes electricity.

      Or we could go for the ACOG that uses fiber optics to gather ambient light to light up your sights, no batteries required. But that'll need a p-rail mount, but might as well get rid of the basic 1.5X scope anyway... just about anything would be better.

  • Sepecat's Avatar
    118 posts since Jan '08
    • I agree that STK shud just install P rail as standard. In that case, you can install any off the shelf optic sight with illum reticles.

      I cannot imagine Singapore army without even a very basic night aiming sight such as tritium which was available in the M16 used by the previous generation of SAF

      ACOG uses tritium for illum the reticle. In add, it also has
      fibre optic light collecting system

  • foxtrout8's Avatar
    1,165 posts since May '02
    • Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:

      Or we could go for the ACOG that uses fiber optics to gather ambient light to light up your sights, no batteries required. But that'll need a p-rail mount, but might as well get rid of the basic 1.5X scope anyway... just about anything would be better.


      Actually what i mentioned was taken out from the ACOG....lol was trying to be cheap skate for SAF to have a 1.5x scope which have the similar features (except the bullet drop compensator) but at perhaps a much cheaper price. biggrin.png

      Edited by foxtrout8 17 Jul `08, 5:57PM
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