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  • Deathnovember-'s Avatar
    3 posts since Jan '13
  • [imdestinyz]'s Avatar
    1,361 posts since Jan '11
    • oh man... i empathise with you... work place bully can really get quite bad at times.

      Whats more impt is so now that such things have happened, what do u intend to do about it?

  • Deathnovember-'s Avatar
    3 posts since Jan '13
    • I contacted mom, told me that they can't intervene in this situation.. For now I've no idea what to do next;(

  • [imdestinyz]'s Avatar
    1,361 posts since Jan '11
  • jgho83's Avatar
    1,542 posts since Dec '07
    • I heard of cases worst than you and he managed to recover from it. If you owe them money, so be it. Tell them you pay them back once you secure a new job. Just treat this as an expensive life learning lesson? 

  • jojobeach's Avatar
    8,349 posts since Apr '07
    • Originally posted by Deathnovember-:

      Hi all.

      I've been working for a company for 6 months as a flight attendant. I was told that to do my clearance and collect a letter of termination on this Friday(18 January 2013). I am under contract, so I was told by the HR that I still need to pay the owing Bond monies. The reason why I got terminated is due to depression, which I got it at work, the bullying from the senior crew and so I couldn't withstand the pressure any longer. I took a lot of mc due to fear of flying, scared, trauma, anxiety, depressed,migraine and partly of my chronic sinusitis which I got it at work as well. Due to the high number of mc's, the company decided to appointed me to an company doctor which is the Clifford dispensary. It was the senior doctor Lee, who certified me as unfit to fly due to depression . Now, I am in a financial difficulties as I have pending balance of $400 at raffles counseling centre, I had to pay for my own anti depressant, mood, insomnia medications. I won't be able to claim for my medications from my company. Now, my main concern is the bond monies. I am still depressed of work bullying, and now I am much more worried of the bond. 

      I think you need to re-read the contract.

      If I am not wrong, your medical expenses should be covered by the company.

      Since the company appointed the doctor , and the doctor certified you to be unfit.. you should be able to seek a bond waiver.

      You are not in the best mental condition right now to deal with your company, I suggest you seek help/advise from someone else who has better understanding of your rights  and entitlements.

      The HR department should be ashame of what they are doing. It is unscrupulous to take advantage of someone who is certified with psychological disadvantage.

      I suggest you escalate your predicament to higher management.

      It seems likely you got stonewalled by low level HR officers.

      If there's truly abuse or bullying by any of the crews, HR or their respective managers should investigate instead of simply "weeding" out the "weaker" crews.

      I don't know how much is the penalty or "bond" money.. but the HR must be quite stupid to think you will be able to pay back after knowing of your condition and cutting off your future income...




      Edited by jojobeach 19 Jan `13, 2:15AM
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    159 posts since Sep '09
  • M the name's Avatar
    1,763 posts since Mar '09



      At Your New Job


      Not getting along in the new workplace? Deal with it once and for all. By Simone Emmons


      Whether you are just starting your first job or your tenth, you will find that office politics are consistent across different workplaces. It is something that is inherent in most companies you may happen to work for. It's part and parcel of life and you won't be able to avoid it. So just how do you survive office politics and still make your talent shine through? Simple, you need to market your talent constantly, just as you did during the interview that got you the job.


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      Think positive and get advice from the higher-ups. Let them be your mentor and they will be more likely to be on your side when push comes to shove.


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      Simone Emmons is a Human Resources professional of 18 years and founder of www.Hispanic-Job.com & www.Asian-Jobs.com


      Parentworld Issue 36 Jan-Feb 2013, Pg 118-119

      Edited by M the name 20 Jan `13, 2:05PM

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      Edited by M the name 22 Jan `13, 2:47PM
  • Deathnovember-'s Avatar
    3 posts since Jan '13
  • troublemaker2005's Avatar
    8,443 posts since Dec '05
    • they can build up silly reasons of their own (subjected to your own review or with authorities eg. lawyer, your legal consultant, MOM etc) and ask you to leave terminate you without paying your slary in lieu. but they cannot ask you to pay back them anything if you have not intentionally damage, cssue certain losses to their business not due to mischief, hatred ot selling out to other company.


      dont pay them and consult MOM with all proves. they should have send you to pre-employment medicl checkup to review your health statsu for your job scope to see if fit or not. then epriodically do medical review if need to. otherwise if they never do that and in the contract letter o employment never satte so cannot anyhow ask people to pay back money.


      no contractual jobs do that, only jobs that are bonded.

  • speakoutfor's Avatar
    838 posts since Jan '12
    • How come this Dr Lee can diagnose you as depressive? He is not even a psychiatrist, he is just a GP.

      Yeah its true, airlines got a lot of workplace bullying particularly the stewardess. Lots of behind the scenes sexual harassment.

      I know you are under a lot of stress but taking a lot of MCs is ground for sacking and underperformance. You work for SIA? Gosh, SIA have strict guidelines.

      I am just curious as to how you ended up as a flight attendant when you have a fear of flying. Next time please choose the job or career that you like and have no phobia.




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