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  • Waynechew1003's Avatar
    99 posts since Apr '17
    • Originally posted by TPS Timothy Mok:

      Integration of 27 & 127:

      Changi Airport Terminal 1/2/3 > PIE > TPE > Tampines Ave 7 > Tampines Central 3 > Tampines Central 1 > Tampines Concourse > Tampines Ave 7 > Tampines Ave 10 > Tampines Industrial Avenue 5 > Tampines Road > Tampines Link and back.

      44:

      Existing 27 route > then Changi Airport Terminal 4, allow double decker.

      Gonna be a white elephant service for 27 after integration. Load at most within tampines town or maybe till airport. Tampines industrial ave 5 and tampines road iload is at most 5. So no use

      It will be good if there is a service then runs parallel with 27 then go into T4. Can start from compassvale as thats the most heavy load (Sengkang - tampines)

  • SBS BUSES LOVER's Avatar
    1,759 posts since Dec '05
    • Originally posted by lemon1974:

      last year someone claim have inside info about 500/700/171 and now all nothing?

      someone even say his friends at HGDEP already learn the route for 500 last year...

      hahaha 

  • 201911's Avatar
    630 posts since Jun '07
    • I think 700 may still get chopped since it doesn't stop outside Junction 10. 75 & 184 stopping there probably means their route to the temp bus park/ future Gali Batu ter is permanent.

      LTA could be holding it off since 700 is still quite popular and I guess lobbying by MPs and residents.

  • CZT's Avatar
    440 posts since Jun '16
    • Originally posted by 201911:

      I think 700 may still get chopped since it doesn't stop outside Junction 10. 75 & 184 stopping there probably means their route to the temp bus park/ future Gali Batu ter is permanent.

      LTA could be holding it off since 700 is still quite popular and I guess lobbying by MPs and residents.

      Well any hypothetical scenario if 700 is chopped? residents seek help frm MP to reinstate that? personally i find it quite hard to determine

  • AJQZC's Avatar
    988 posts since Sep '08
    • Originally posted by CZT:

      Well any hypothetical scenario if 700 is chopped? residents seek help frm MP to reinstate that? personally i find it quite hard to determine

      That's why we should deal with 171 first.

  • array88's Avatar
    1,328 posts since May '14
    • Originally posted by AJQZC:

      That's why we should deal with 171 first.

      There is still going to be complaints if 171's link from Upp Bt Timah to Yishun and inner parts of Bukit Panjang is not compensated. Thus I think the best solution is to merge with 41.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,765 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by array88:

      There is still going to be complaints if 171's link from Upp Bt Timah to Yishun and inner parts of Bukit Panjang is not compensated. Thus I think the best solution is to merge with 41.

      One with SMRT one with TTS,How to merge?

  • AJQZC's Avatar
    988 posts since Sep '08
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      One with SMRT one with TTS,How to merge?

      Giving 171/41 to SMRT and 944 to TT can be a long-term solution.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,765 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by AJQZC:

      Giving 171/41 to SMRT and 944 to TT can be a long-term solution.

      So SMRT operate 41 from Jurong East ah?

  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,316 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by array88:

      There is still going to be complaints if 171's link from Upp Bt Timah to Yishun and inner parts of Bukit Panjang is not compensated. Thus I think the best solution is to merge with 41.

      There is 963. The few stops along Upper Bukit Timah where solely 171 connects anyway have very low loading.

      171 will get cut but it will be part of a larger DTL rationalisation program mid next year. 

    • Originally posted by CZT:

      Well any hypothetical scenario if 700 is chopped? residents seek help frm MP to reinstate that? personally i find it quite hard to determine

      I don't think 700 should be chopped. Loading has increased again and even DDs are doing well on this service. 

  • CZT's Avatar
    440 posts since Jun '16
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      I don't think 700 should be chopped. Loading has increased again and even DDs are doing well on this service. 

      True. And there are speculations that 171 will be chopped, but also quite hard to say, maybe chopped till somewhere along bukit timah road? Coz there are ppl in yishun who uses it connect to bukit timah

  • gekpohboy's Avatar
    2,180 posts since Mar '16
    • By the fact that 700 is using double decker buses, it already proves that the route is popular and won't be removed or whatsoever.

      Edited by gekpohboy 09 Sep `17, 8:45AM
    • 171 can be axed though. Considering it is duplicating most of Downtown Line stage 2, and 857 at Yishun is also providing the connection to the city centre, the only unique section of the route is between Bukit Panjang and Yishun.

      Edited by gekpohboy 09 Sep `17, 8:53AM
    • 171 can be shortened to Bukit Panjang and absorb 973, to become a loop service that originates from Yishun and loops at Hillview.

      Edited by gekpohboy 09 Sep `17, 8:53AM
  • AJQZC's Avatar
    988 posts since Sep '08
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      So SMRT operate 41 from Jurong East ah?

      Well there's no problems with services terminating at rival operators' interchanges. 110, 117 and 180 for example. Besides, Yishun will still have lots of other SMRT services after Seletar handover. A Yishun -- Jurong East route can be one of them.

      Why so concerned?

      Edited by AJQZC 09 Sep `17, 9:00PM
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      There is 963. The few stops along Upper Bukit Timah where solely 171 connects anyway have very low loading.

      171 will get cut but it will be part of a larger DTL rationalisation program mid next year. 

      Still have to wait then. Hopefully it gets done by that time ...

  • iveco's Avatar
    17,027 posts since Mar '04
    • Originally posted by array88:

      There is still going to be complaints if 171's link from Upp Bt Timah to Yishun and inner parts of Bukit Panjang is not compensated. Thus I think the best solution is to merge with 41.

      Easier to merge with 944 since both under same contractor.

  • SMB145B's Avatar
    2,215 posts since Dec '12
    • Originally posted by iveco:

      Easier to merge with 944 since both under same contractor.

      don't touch any feeders.

  • iveco's Avatar
    17,027 posts since Mar '04
    • Originally posted by SMB145B:

      don't touch any feeders.

      63 and 382 merged without issues in 2002, even though both routes had no common sectors.

      Edited by iveco 09 Sep `17, 11:45PM
  • SMB145B's Avatar
    2,215 posts since Dec '12
    • Originally posted by iveco:

      63 and 382 merged without issues in 2002, even though both routes had no common sectors.

      not the same anymore. 

      the old 382 was Eunos to Kg Ubi and 63 loops at Circuit Rd. later intro 63M plying the old 382 + Circuit Rd.

       

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,765 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by AJQZC:

      Well there's no problems with services terminating at rival operators' interchanges. 110, 117 and 180 for example. Besides, Yishun will still have lots of other SMRT services after Seletar handover. A Yishun -- Jurong East route can be one of them.

      Why so concerned?

      66 would be better option..

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