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  • Path Light's Avatar
    1,569 posts since Feb '15
    • Originally posted by array88:

      Isn't cutting back services a part of rationalization? For example, if 171 is cut to Yishun - Bukit Panjang, it is considered rationalization.

      NEL rationalization involved shortening services too (e.g. 81, 103).

      Yes, it is

  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,274 posts since May '12
    • Loading on svc 258 @ 06.50 from Pioneer MRT DD

      Pioneer MRT -- 04 (0/4)

      JW St 61 -- 06 (0/2), 11 (0/5)

      JW St 71 -- 15 (-3/7)

      JW St 81 -- 31 (-1/17), 41 (-4/14)

      JW St 82 -- 54 (-3/16)

      JW St 75 -- 66 (-7/19), 74 (-1/9)

      JW St 64 -- 81 (0/7), 80 (-2/1), 00 (-80/0)

      loops around takes 04 minutes in total

      JW St 64 -- 02 (0/2), 05 (0/3)

      JW St 75 -- 08 (0/3), 14 (-1/7)

      JW St 82 -- 20 (0/6)

      JW St 81 -- 38 (0/18), 57 (-1/20)

      JW St 71 -- 68 (-4/15)

      JW St 61 -- 70 (-4/6), 74 (0/4)

      Pioneer MRT -- 67 (-32/27)

      I alighted here

      * Combined 256/258 has good DD worthy loading

      * 46 pax go from JW town to industrial estate with 27 boarding at Pioneer. This shows 258 serves a long distance purpose and DDs are good on this service.

      * Upper deck more than 70% full at all times

      * Looping point at JW St 64 is a waste because bus comes back empty. As I had recommended before maybe good to extend to Taman Jurong/AYE. This will provide good connection between JW and Taman Jurong estates than sending the bus back empty. (especially evening peak I can assume the bus goes empty all the way unlike AM).

    • Loading on svc 805 @ 07.20am

      Yishun Interchange -- 00 (left with no pax)

      Yishun Ave 2 -- 5 (0/5), 5 (0/0)

      Yishun Central -- 4 (-3/2)

      Yishun Ave 4 -- 4 (0/0), 3 (-1/0), 5 (0/2)

      Yishun Ave 1 -- 14 (-3/12), 24 (0/10), 29 (0/5)

      Yishun St 41 -- 44 (-1/16)

      Yishun Ring Road -- 50 (-2/8), 50 (-3/3) around 20 pax waiting for 860 which was right behind (A22)

      Yishun Ave 4 -- 60 (0/10), 68 (-1/9)

      Yishun Central -- 69 (-4/5) around 4 pax were not able to board

      Yishun Ave 2 -- 64 (-5/0), 12 (-52/0)

      * 805 will soon need DDs on massive fleet add

      * 805 is taking away loading from 812 from ave 4 to MRT

      * Even with flats along ave 1 and ave 4 not fully TOP and occupied, bus has reached maximum capacity. 

      * Will do well with DDs as those from ave 1/st 41 will prefer go upper deck.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,498 posts since Nov '03
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    976 posts since Mar '16
  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,274 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Wahlao,You every svc you analyse all need DD huh bro?

      Are you sure I say that about every svc??? 46, 83, 85, 119, 127, 136, old 256...  (to number a few)...  don't just say anything bro. 

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,498 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      Are you sure I say that about every svc??? 46, 83, 85, 119, 127, 136, old 256...  (to number a few)...  don't just say anything bro. 

      Hahahahahaha 😂😂😂

  • Travellator's Avatar
    4 posts since Aug '17
    • does anyone has the loading level of svc 89 and svc 27 during morning/evening peak hours? 

  • Hellenayula's Avatar
    8 posts since Aug '17
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,498 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by Travellator:

      does anyone has the loading level of svc 89 and svc 27 during morning/evening peak hours? 

      Obviously its heavy,27 loadings TPE-Tampines MRT & Tampines Ave 7/4/5 to Airport.

      Monday-Saturday 89 use full fleet DD while on Sundays/PHs you will see more single deckers.

  • Travellator's Avatar
    4 posts since Aug '17
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Obviously its heavy,27 loadings TPE-Tampines MRT & Tampines Ave 7/4/5 to Airport.

      Monday-Saturday 89 use full fleet DD while on Sundays/PHs you will see more single deckers.

      I think 27's frequency is 5-10 min, so actually its quite good for a normal trunk route, but i still confuse why it's still heavy loading, maybe lack of duplicative svc for that stretch of Sengkang- Tamp Ave 10/9?? (except 168)

  • Sbs6750E's Avatar
    1,890 posts since May '15
    • Originally posted by Travellator:

      does anyone has the loading level of svc 89 and svc 27 during morning/evening peak hours? 


      89e i think is the FFW svc with highest loading. Only FFW svc to get DDs(full fleet some more) yet still quite packed. Easily can reach 90+ pax... Sv 89 weekend loading also quite good, SDs are packed to the dor during afternoons/evenings from DTE to Sengkang. This also applies to 109.

    • Originally posted by Travellator:

      I think 27's frequency is 5-10 min, so actually its quite good for a normal trunk route, but i still confuse why it's still heavy loading, maybe lack of duplicative svc for that stretch of Sengkang- Tamp Ave 10/9?? (except 168)


      Peak hrs freq is 3-4 mins(27/27A).

  • array88's Avatar
    1,309 posts since May '14
    • Originally posted by Sbs6750E:


      89e i think is the FFW svc with highest loading. Only FFW svc to get DDs(full fleet some more) yet still quite packed. Easily can reach 90+ pax... Sv 89 weekend loading also quite good, SDs are packed to the dor during afternoons/evenings from DTE to Sengkang. This also applies to 109.

      10e also used to have DDs. Not sure about now 

    • Originally posted by Travellator:

      I think 27's frequency is 5-10 min, so actually its quite good for a normal trunk route, but i still confuse why it's still heavy loading, maybe lack of duplicative svc for that stretch of Sengkang- Tamp Ave 10/9?? (except 168)

      To date, 27 is still the only direct service between Sengkang and Tampines, and the fastest service between Tampines Central and Changi Airport.

      Furthermore, 27 is prone to bunching due to tha large number of buses (as it cannot use DD) and traffic jams along TPE. It's very common to see a few 27 buses bunched together, the first one packed to the door while subsequent ones only have a few or no standing pax.

  • SBS2792K's Avatar
    48 posts since Jun '17
    • Originally posted by array88:

      10e also used to have DDs. Not sure about now 

      10e still have, full fleet

  • Travellator's Avatar
    4 posts since Aug '17
    • Thanks for all the info guys~

      And for the Hougang/Kovan residents, can i ask svc 112 and 113 which has the higher loading?

       

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