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  • SBS8676Z's Avatar
    1,802 posts since Oct '11
    • Originally posted by iveco:

      110 switch with 117 make more sense, come to think of it.

      136 better to swap for 109 to reduce dead runs. I have been saying it from day #1.

      Can consider merging 117 with 883 to become 1 SMRT trunk service.

  • array88's Avatar
    1,489 posts since May '14
    • Originally posted by SBS8676Z:

      Can consider merging 117 with 883 to become 1 SMRT trunk service.

      I actually think it's better to keep 117 and 883 as separate services in the long term, as one service will probably not be enough for the whole Canberra estate. Furthermore, 117's demand for the rest of its route is unlikely to deserve the same frequency as 883's route in Canberra when it is fully developed.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,253 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by array88:

      I actually think it's better to keep 117 and 883 as separate services in the long term, as one service will probably not be enough for the whole Canberra estate. Furthermore, 117's demand for the rest of its route is unlikely to deserve the same frequency as 883's route in Canberra when it is fully developed.

      Agreed,both have their own catchments...883 recently got DD upgrades also..

  • phillipC's Avatar
    1,025 posts since Feb '05
    • when is the expected announcement date for the winner of Bt Merah bus package ? anyone know?

      Edited by phillipC 02 Dec `17, 11:46AM
  • CZT's Avatar
    555 posts since Jun '16
    • Originally posted by phillipC:

      when is the expected announcement date for the winner of Bt Merah bus package ? anyone know?

      Probably nxt year when Seletar package is officially passed to SBS for OPS?

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,253 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by phillipC:

      when is the expected announcement date for the winner of Bt Merah bus package ? anyone know?

      December la dey

    • Here is my guess for the next future packages

      Bukit Merah:SBST or SMRT

      Sembawang-Yishun:SMRT,SBST or Go-Ahead

      Hougang-Sengkang:SBST,Tower Transit or new operator 

      Bedok:SBST

      Woodlands:SBST,SMRT,Tower Transit or Go-Ahead

      CCK-Bt Panjang:SMRT,SBST or new operator

      Jurong West:SMRT,SBST or Tower Transit

      Tampines:SBST or new operator

      Serangoon-Eunos:Tower Transit,Go-Ahead,SBST,SMRT or new operator 

      Clementi:SBST

      Bishan-Toa Payoh:SMRT,SBST or Go-Ahead

      Bulim:Tower Transit,SMRT or SBST

      Loyang:SBST,New operator or SMRT

      Seletar:New operator or SBST

       

    • Some reliable info says that the three door Enviro500 will be fitted with a new Euro6 Cummins engine..I am thinking of the new L-9 370hp/1600nm which is suitable for three axles DD/Coach

    • LTA should consider 

      Bukit Merah package,Out:160 & 198 to Tower Transit,145 & 170 to Clementi Package.

      In:96,282,284 & 285.

      Bulim Package,Out:96,282,284 & 285 to Bukit Merah Package.In:160 & 198 from Bukit Merah Package,174 & 174e from Clementi Package.

      Clementi Package,Out:174 & 174e to Bulim Package.In:145 & 170 from Bukit Merah Package.

    • Seletar Package,Out:851 & 852 to Sembawang-Yishun.In:825 & 857 from Sembawang-Yishun.

      Sembawang-Yishun,Out:825 & 857 to Seletar Package.In:851 & 852 from Seletar Package.

    • Loyang Package,Out:17 to Bedok Package and 136 to Bishan-Toa Payoh Package

      In:29 from Tampines Package and 5 from Bukit Merah Package

      Bedok Package,Out:25 to Seletar Package and In:17 from Loyang Package

      Bishan-Toa Payoh Package,Out:186 to Bukit Merah Package

  • A22 fan's Avatar
    270 posts since Jul '17
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,253 posts since Nov '03
    • So,SMRT will be transferring 166 buses to SBST for Seletar Package which comprises of 94 Single deckers and 62 Double deckers and 10 Bendy buses?

      B9TL:SG5040P to SG5156P?

      A24:SMB8001E-SMB8013X?

      A22:SMB3052R-SMB3169M?

      Citaro:SG1023R-SG1034J?

  • TPS Timothy Mok's Avatar
    1,234 posts since Aug '07
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      So,SMRT will be transferring 166 buses to SBST for Seletar Package which comprises of 94 Single deckers and 62 Double deckers and 10 Bendy buses?

      B9TL:SG5040P to SG5156P?

      A24:SMB8001E-SMB8013X?

      A22:SMB3052R-SMB3169M?

      Citaro:SG1023R-SG1034J?

      they need about 10 bendy buses so that service 24 can still use with service 800 or 804.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,253 posts since Nov '03
    • I don't think for now SBST plan using A24 for service 24,Maybe for service 800 only.

  • TPS Timothy Mok's Avatar
    1,234 posts since Aug '07
    • I think the reason why Bukit Merah package may go to SMRT is because of the following things -

      Some places, like Woodlands Checkpoint and JB Checkpoint, can only use bendy buses as high capacity buses; no double-deck. That's why award to SMRT, as only SMRT has bendy buses.

      20 bendy buses are definitely needed to cater to 160/170 crowds. Bendy bus will be needed for services 16, 57, 93, 120, 121, 122, 131, 145, 195, 272, 273, 400 and 402, which will be redeployed from all other services in Choa Chu Kang, Woodlands and Yishun.

      SMRT need to pester more bus services and placed a lower bid, Jiaoyun/Travel GSH will not do so because they don't have the experience in double decker bus industry.

      Note: Bus drivers won't lose job because of BCM. The incoming operator must offer affected bus drivers a job at the new company, with conditions no worse than the incumbent operator.

      Edited by TPS Timothy Mok 04 Jan `18, 10:48AM
  • wsy1234's Avatar
    1,671 posts since Aug '07
    • i don't think most interchange can have bendy buses. example Bishan and Toa Payoh. so stop this bendy crap.

  • AntiDennisLance's Avatar
    1,155 posts since Jul '03
    • Theres also not enough WAB bendies to go around unless LTA decides to buy more, which as of now there isn't the slightest sniff or sign of.

  • iveco's Avatar
    17,244 posts since Mar '04
    • 145 already has DD. 93 has had low loading since CCL opened.

      Edited by iveco 05 Jan `18, 12:07AM
  • lemon1974's Avatar
    9,556 posts since Dec '04
    • SBS Transit will be having a open house on 27/Jan at seletar depot...

      free shuttles from Yishun/AMK/YCK bus interchanges..

  • iveco's Avatar
    17,244 posts since Mar '04
    • SBST has been around for more than 40 years still need a grand opening?

      Will SMRT do the same if they retain Sembawang?

       

      Edited by iveco 12 Jan `18, 10:51PM
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,253 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by iveco:

      SBST has been around for more than 40 years still need a grand opening?

      Will SMRT do the same if they retain Sembawang?

       

      To show Yishun residents that they control those feeders, 851 & 852.

  • iveco's Avatar
    17,244 posts since Mar '04
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      To show Yishun residents that they control those feeders, 851 & 852.

      Don't they already operate routes 39 and 103?

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,253 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by iveco:

      Don't they already operate routes 39 and 103?

      Residents already knew that but this time we're talking about SMRT service that they've taken over.

    • My guess for Bt Merah winners

      1:SMRT

      2:Tower Transit

      3:Shenzhen

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