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  • Gus.chong's Avatar
    9,749 posts since Jun '10
  • SBS6465E's Avatar
    207 posts since Sep '15
    • 976 (BPJ <> Joo Koon)

      Jelebu Rd > BPJ Rd > CCK Rd > CCK Way > CCK Av 3 > Brickland/Sungei Tengah Rd > Old CCK Rd > Jln Bahar > Nanyang Av > Lien Ying Chow Dr > PIE >

      Option 1

      Tuas Rd > Jln Ahmad Ibrahim > Benoi Rd > Joo Koon ITH 

      Option 2 

      Upp Jurong Rd > Benoi Rd > Joo Koon ITH 

  • AJQZC's Avatar
    899 posts since Sep '08
    • Repost. Any comments?

      (Edited w.r.t SBS9252G's comments below)

      ============================

      Extended service 121: Bt Merah -- Hougang

      • Bt Merah Int
      • (current service 121 route to Outram Rd)
      • Eu Tong Sen St   (return via South Bridge Rd / Upp Cross St / New Bridge Rd)
      • Hill St   (return via North Bridge Rd)
      • (current service 51 route to Hougang)
      • Hougang Int
      Modified service 51: Jurong East -- Lor 1 Geylang
      • Jurong East Int
      • (current service 51 route to Victoria St)
      • Ophir Rd   (return via Rochor Rd)
      • Beach Rd
      • Crawford St
      • Kallang Rd
      • Lor 1 Geylang

      With reference to this.

      The two "halves" of 51 now meet at Chinatown / Bugis.

      With this modification, 272 will be withdrawn / renamed 121M. On trip towards Hougang, 121 will loop in to serve Telok Blangah Cres before the bus stop at Radin Mas CC to compensate for the loss of the loop, thus deploying red & white plate at Telok Blangah Cres.

      Edited by AJQZC 04 Jul `16, 4:14PM
  • SBS6465E's Avatar
    207 posts since Sep '15
    • 44 (Upp East Coast Rd <> Kaki Bukit Industrial Park)

      Upp East Coast Rd > Bedok South Rd > Bedok South Av 1 > New Upp Changi Rd > Bedok North Av 3 > Bedok North Rd > Kaki Bukit Av 1 > Kaki Bukit Rd 3 > Kaki Bukit Av 2 > Eunos Link > Kaki Bukit Av 1 > (RETURN)

  • AJQZC's Avatar
    899 posts since Sep '08
    • Originally posted by SBS6465E:

      976 (BPJ <> Joo Koon)

      Jelebu Rd > BPJ Rd > CCK Rd > CCK Way > CCK Av 3 > Brickland/Sungei Tengah Rd > Old CCK Rd > Jln Bahar > Nanyang Av > Lien Ying Chow Dr > PIE >

      Option 1

      Tuas Rd > Jln Ahmad Ibrahim > Benoi Rd > Joo Koon ITH 

      Option 2 

      Upp Jurong Rd > Benoi Rd > Joo Koon ITH 

      Can expect decent demand on areas running parallel to 172/975, but perhaps less for the NTU sector except during school peak hours. Provided that both ends have space to accomodate new services, of course.

      I would choose option 2. Not exactly helpful for such a service to double as a JIS route, and the link to Gul Circle MRT station isn't really that necessary IMO.

      Edited by AJQZC 04 Jul `16, 11:55AM
  • Brian2016's Avatar
    9 posts since Jul '16
  • wsy1234's Avatar
    1,560 posts since Aug '07
    • 507 from Bedok to Toh Guan same as 506 route but bypass tradehub 21 and international business Park. and IMM loop at Toh Guan and every 5 to 10 min waiting time. stop along PIE like 985 or 151 or 153

      Edited by wsy1234 04 Jul `16, 2:58PM
  • AJQZC's Avatar
    899 posts since Sep '08
    • Originally posted by wsy1234:

      507 from Bedok to Toh Guan same as 506 route but bypass tradehub 21 and international business Park. and IMM loop at Toh Guan and every 5 to 10 min waiting time. stop along PIE like 985 or 151 or 153

      Don't think Toh Guan have that high a demand for intertown routes. Duplication with 506 and having a 5-10 min frequency is even more out of the question, when 506 is running at some 20+ mins frequency with just enough demand. Besides, there's already 502.

      Though it could be possible that 41 would be extended along PIE to Jln Toa Payoh and Bidadari in the future, IF there's demand for it.

  • SBS9252G's Avatar
    393 posts since Dec '11
    • Originally posted by AJQZC:

      Repost. Any comments?

      ============================

      Extended service 121: Bt Merah -- Hougang

      • Bt Merah Int
      • (current service 121 route to Ganges Ave)
      • Havelock Rd
      • (current service 51 route to Hougang)
      • Hougang Int
      Modified service 51: Jurong East -- Lor 1 Geylang
      • Jurong East Int
      • (current service 51 route to Ganges Ave)
      • Outram Rd   (return via Outram Rd / Zion Rd / Tiong Bahru Rd)
      • Eu Tong Sen St   (return via Upp Cross St / New Bridge Rd)
      • Hill St, Victoria St   (return via North Bridge Rd)
      • Ophir Rd   (return via Rochor Rd)
      • Beach Rd
      • Crawford St
      • Kallang Rd
      • Lor 1 Geylang

      With reference to this.

      The two "halves" of 51 now meet at Chinatown / Bugis.

      With this modification, 272 will be withdrawn / renamed 121M. On trip towards Hougang, 121 will loop in to serve Telok Blangah Cres before the bus stop at Radin Mas CC to compensate for the loss of the loop, thus deploying red & white plate at Telok Blangah Cres.

      It will be good if 121 still plies to Outram Rd then Eu Tong Sen, meeting 51 at Havelock junction.
      Since 121 caters Telok Blangah to SGH

    • 183 Amendment 

      • JE Int
      • Follow current route
      • JE St 21
      • Jurong Gateway Rd
      • Current route
      Since 41 is plying Toh Guan Est, 183 should be able to cater St 21 and link to the hospital.
  • AJQZC's Avatar
    899 posts since Sep '08
    • Originally posted by SBS9252G:

      183 Amendment 

      • JE Int
      • Follow current route
      • JE St 21
      • Jurong Gateway Rd
      • Current route
      Since 41 is plying Toh Guan Est, 183 should be able to cater St 21 and link to the hospital.

      Could do (as a way to reduce journey time), seeing that Toh Guan Rd already has 41 to Toh Guan Rd East, 52/105 to Clementi MRT, and 188 to NUS and Pasir Panjang. Though some residents may be unhappy with a lost link to Science Park and UTown, or to have to squeeze in a more crowded bus.

      But the need of having a bus service along Jurong East St 21 is questionable, and the link to NTFH is already provided by 49/990 from JE and 99 from Clementi.

    • This has probably been brought up before, but I'll just post it again here.

      Purpose of this is to improve utility of service 150 (with reference to this), as well as releasing 15 from its liability to serve Telok Kurau and allowing DDs on board.

      Given 150's supposed poor loading, it's better to let 134 do the job for the inbound route to Marine Terrace, but leave residents the choice for either of the two routes when they leave their homes.

      ===================================

      Extension of service 150: Eunos -- Marine Parade Rd (loop)

      • Eunos Int
      • (current 150 route to Telok Kurau Rd)
      • Telok Kurau Rd
      • Marine Cres
      • Marine Parade Rd   (loop around at Parkway Parade)
      • Marine Cres
      • Marine Ter
      • Marine Parade Rd
      • Telok Kurau Rd
      • (current 150 route to Eunos)
      • Eunos Int

      Modification of service 15: Pasir Ris -- Marine Parade Rd (loop)

      • Pasir Ris Int
      • (current 15 route to Jln Eunos)
      • Jln Eunos
      • Still Rd
      • Still Rd South
      • Marine Parade Rd   (loop around at Parkway Parade)
      • Still Rd South
      • Still Rd
      • Jln Eunos
      • (current 15 route to Pasir Ris)
      • Pasir Ris Int
      Edited by AJQZC 04 Jul `16, 4:56PM
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    18,496 posts since Nov '03
  • SBS6465E's Avatar
    207 posts since Sep '15
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      15 & 150 already feedback to LTA and the answer is dissapointing.

      What they say?

      This is the real reason. 

      *ahem**ahem*GCT*ahem**ahem*hammer*ahem**ahem*Marine Parade cannot kena hammer. 

  • SBS6853S's Avatar
    198 posts since Mar '16
    • Originally posted by SBS6465E:

      What they say?

      This is the real reason. 

      *ahem**ahem*GCT*ahem**ahem*hammer*ahem**ahem*Marine Parade cannot kena hammer. 

      then 134?

  • SBS6465E's Avatar
    207 posts since Sep '15
    • Originally posted by AJQZC:

      Can expect decent demand on areas running parallel to 172/975, but perhaps less for the NTU sector except during school peak hours. Provided that both ends have space to accomodate new services, of course.

      I would choose option 2. Not exactly helpful for such a service to double as a JIS route, and the link to Gul Circle MRT station isn't really that necessary IMO.

      Personally I'm also in favour of sending it via Upp Jurong Rd (Option 2). Transfering at Joo Koon is probably better given the greater variety of services than Gul Circle. 

      The rationale for the route is to relieve some of 975's loadings in Teck Whye, and provide a direct NTU/Cleantech <> CCK/BPJ connection, which I believe will be quite popular. 

    • Originally posted by SBS9252G:

      It will be good if 121 still plies to Outram Rd then Eu Tong Sen, meeting 51 at Havelock junction.
      Since 121 caters Telok Blangah to SGH

      I agree, better to let it serve SGH. But I don't forsee LTA splitting 51 this way, because they might fear 121 becoming a tad too long. Though on the Eastern end, Geylang Lor 1 is the perfect place to chop up 51, as it duplicates the EWL/Geylang Rd services from Eunos onwards. 

    • Originally posted by SBS6853S:

      then 134?

      You can view 150 as a sweetener to whatever hurt 134 brought. Though frankly, while I understand there's been a petition, the vast majority of residents have benefited from more reliable bus service to Paya Lebar and PP. 

      But really, the political reasons for introducing 150 are blatantly obvious, at least to me. 

      Edited by SBS6465E 04 Jul `16, 9:45PM
  • autumncs's Avatar
    374 posts since Oct '06
    • It would be nice if Toh Guan (IMM) has a fast service (via PIE) to Beauty World MRT, where commuters can change to Downtown Line, svc 52 or svc 985. The Toh Guan PIE exit can be quite congested during peak hours but there are no bus services using that PIE exit, which is quite a waste. Also, I'm fed up with the overcrowded East-West Line. LOL.

      It would also be nice if Toh Guan has a fast service to Jurong West, bypassing Jurong East Ave 1 & Jurong West Ave 1. The journey from IMM to Pioneer Road North on svc 502 took me around 40 minutes, which I think is ridiculous given that the fare for svc 502 is $0.60 higher than regular fares.

    • Originally posted by SBS6465E:

      Personally I'm also in favour of sending it via Upp Jurong Rd (Option 2). Transfering at Joo Koon is probably better given the greater variety of services than Gul Circle. 

      The rationale for the route is to relieve some of 975's loadings in Teck Whye, and provide a direct NTU/Cleantech <> CCK/BPJ connection, which I believe will be quite popular. 

      Yeah... As a NTU student I'm dying to see a direct connection between NTU and CCK... I find it ridiculous to spend 45-50 minutes taking svc 179 (20-25 min), EWL (10-15 min) and NSL (10 min) from NTU to CCK, while driving via PIE/KJE takes only 10 min.

      Edited by autumncs 04 Jul `16, 10:07PM
  • AJQZC's Avatar
    899 posts since Sep '08
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      15 & 150 already feedback to LTA and the answer is dissapointing.

      Mind sharing the original words of what they replied?

  • gekpohboy's Avatar
    1,239 posts since Mar '16
    • For the areas already developed - like Lavender, Jurong and Bedok - if there should be, there would already be.

      For the new areas - like Punggol, Seletar and Tengah - the new bus routes are quite straightforward.

      The LTA has computer software(s) to analyse the utilisation and sustainability of bus routes.

      As a NUS student on president's scholarship, I would say that this thread is redundant.

      Edited by gekpohboy 04 Jul `16, 11:20PM
  • SBS9252G's Avatar
    393 posts since Dec '11
    • Originally posted by gekpohboy:

      For the areas already developed - like Jurong, Bedok and Queenstown - if there should be, there would already be.

      The new bus routes at the new areas - like Punggol, Seletar and Tengah - are also quite straightforward.

      The LTA has computer software(s) for this, to analyse the utilisation and sustainability of bus routes.

      As a NUS student on president scholarship, I would say that this thread is redundant.

      That doesn't stop us from suggesting new routes just because they are using some sort of technologies, they too need to listen to us for opinions too, isn't it?

  • AJQZC's Avatar
    899 posts since Sep '08
    • Originally posted by SBS6465E:

      I agree, better to let it serve SGH. But I don't forsee LTA splitting 51 this way, because they might fear 121 becoming a tad too long. Though on the Eastern end, Geylang Lor 1 is the perfect place to chop up 51, as it duplicates the EWL/Geylang Rd services from Eunos onwards. 

      That's true too, with 121 getting a unidirectional distance getting close to 30km. Unfortunately there's not really many existing routes you can manipulate for an extension near Bt Merah / Chinatown to foster a clean split for 51 (or 61). 122 is one route that I wouldn't want to touch due to the heavy loading imbalance it would bring about.

      Edited by AJQZC 04 Jul `16, 10:44PM
    • Originally posted by gekpohboy:

      For the areas already developed - like Lavender, Jurong and Bedok - if there should be, there would already be.

      The new bus routes at the new areas - like Punggol, Seletar and Tengah - are quite straightforward.

      The LTA has computer software(s) for this, to analyse the utilisation and sustainability of bus routes.

      As a NUS student on president scholarship, I would say that this thread is redundant.

      I wouldn't have wanted to write a rebuttal if it wasn't for a fact that you were also actively contributing suggestions about routes in Jurong West. Quit being hypocritical please. Also, in support of SBS9252G's post above.

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