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  • SMB1368T's Avatar
    1,135 posts since Mar '16
    • from what I saw, people seem to go to Ranggung LRT than Buangkok due to the distance between the mrt and the flats (too far)

  • SBS3004X's Avatar
    3,491 posts since Jan '14
    • Originally posted by SMB1368T:

      from what I saw, people seem to go to Ranggung LRT than Buangkok due to the distance between the mrt and the flats (too far)

      And the bus stops 65011/65019 Punggol Road. Much more bus services.

      This is why I am suggesting those new bus services (I still have more suggestions) to bring passengers to Buangkok MRT.

      I still have suggestions for 104, 108, and amendments of 156 that I have not posted here yet.

      Edited by SBS3004X 25 Apr `17, 6:22PM
    • Originally posted by SMB1368T:

      from what I saw, people seem to go to Ranggung LRT than Buangkok due to the distance between the mrt and the flats (too far)

      And too few choices of bus services at Buangkok MRT bus stops. So even the residents right in front of Buangkok MRT often walk to Punggol Road bus stops.

    • Service 108

      Hougang Ctrl - Sengkang East Way (Loop)

      Hougang Ctrl

      Hougang Ave 4

      Hougang Ave 9

      Hougang St 91

      Hougang St 51

      Buangkok Green

      Sengkang East Rd

      Compassvale Bow

      Sengkang Ctrl (Buangkok MRT)

      Sengkang East Ave

      Anchorvale Link

      Anchorvale St

      Anchorvale Rd

      Sengkang East Way (looping point)

      Connects Buangkok MRT to Hougang St 51/91/Anchorvale Rd

      Connects Anchorvale directly to Hougang West, 102 covers Hougang East

  • AJQZC's Avatar
    1,021 posts since Sep '08
    • Are there any merits of amending 506 (after New Upp Changi Rd) to serve Xilin Ave & Changi Business Park Terminal? Is the existing demand high enough against such a move?

      25 is bridging Bedok South & NUC Rd at much higher frequencies, and 46 is the alternative between Bedok South & DTL3 Bedok Reservoir station.

      Edited by AJQZC 29 Apr `17, 6:06PM
  • orange28's Avatar
    221 posts since Feb '10
    • Originally posted by AJQZC:

      Are there any merits of amending 506 (after New Upp Changi Rd) to serve Xilin Ave & Changi Business Park Terminal? Is the existing demand high enough against such a move?

      25 is bridging Bedok South & NUC Rd at much higher frequencies, and 46 is the alternative between Bedok South & DTL3 Bedok Reservoir station.

      I don't see why not, really. Beyond just Bedok North, such an extension could really bring about a much faster journey from the west side of SG to Changi Business Park ...

  • array88's Avatar
    1,400 posts since May '14
    • Originally posted by AJQZC:

      Are there any merits of amending 506 (after New Upp Changi Rd) to serve Xilin Ave & Changi Business Park Terminal? Is the existing demand high enough against such a move?

      25 is bridging Bedok South & NUC Rd at much higher frequencies, and 46 is the alternative between Bedok South & DTL3 Bedok Reservoir station.

      Now that we have 25 and 46, I believe we can safely remove 506's connection as very few people are paying express fares when other trunks can do the job.

      Having said that, I believe most CBP workers from Toa Payoh and beyond will still take MRT or 129-118, both of which are faster. 506 is basically too winding in Bedok.

      Edited by array88 30 Apr `17, 12:01AM
  • TPS Timothy Mok's Avatar
    1,146 posts since Aug '07
    • Route 254 to be extended via Pioneer Road and Tuas West Drive from 19 May 2017.

      Route 192 to be extended via Tuas Road, Pioneer Road and Tuas Avenue 3 from 16 June 2017.

  • autumncs's Avatar
    421 posts since Oct '06
    • Originally posted by array88:

      Now that we have 25 and 46, I believe we can safely remove 506's connection as very few people are paying express fares when other trunks can do the job.

      Having said that, I believe most CBP workers from Toa Payoh and beyond will still take MRT or 129-118, both of which are faster. 506 is basically too winding in Bedok.

      When I boarded 506 at Bedok North Avenue 3 in the morning I noticed a number of students heading towards the schools along Bedok Reservoir Road. So there is a demand between Bedok South / New Upper Changi Road and Bedok Reservoir Road (albeit during school hours). In the evening and on weekends there is also a demand between Bedok Reservoir Road and Upp East Coast Terminal due to NSmen taking IPPT/RT at Bedok Camp.

      Of course, one can argue that these passengers can take 46 to Bedok North Avenue 3 and transfer to 66 or 228 (and vice versa). This way, they can save the surcharge (30 cents for students, 60 cents for adults) for express bus. However, if you are in a hurry, having a direct bus is always better than waiting twice, and the additional cost doesn't really matter.

    • Originally posted by TPS Timothy Mok:

      Route 254 to be extended via Pioneer Road and Tuas West Drive from 19 May 2017.

      Route 192 to be extended via Tuas Road, Pioneer Road and Tuas Avenue 3 from 16 June 2017.

      Where is the source?

    • After 155 was extended to Bedok, I often see empty 155 buses along Bedok North Street 1 and Bedok North Avenue 3. I am wondering if it will be better if 155 is amended to the following

      Towards Toa Payoh:
      - Bedok Int
      - Bedok North Ave 1 (Go straight at Block 546 instead of turning left)
      - Bedok North Street 3
      - Bedok North Ave 2
      - Bedok North Street 1
      and so on....

      Towards Bedok:
      - Bedok North Street 1
      - Bedok North Ave 2 (Go straight at Block 515 instead of turning right)
      - Bedok North Street 3
      - Bedok North Ave 1
      - Bedok Int

      Benefits:
      - relieve long queues for 225G/225W at Bedok Interchange
      - direct access between Bedok North St 3 and [email protected] & Bedok Post Office
      - direct access between Bedok North St 3 and Bedok South Ave 1 & Siglap

      If such an amendment is approved, 155 should switch to berth B1 or B2 in Bedok Interchange. If 155 uses the current berth, nobody from the 225G/225W queues would walk all the way to the 155 queue, practically bringing little or no benefits to the route amendment.

      Edited by autumncs 04 May `17, 6:32PM
  • SBS3004X's Avatar
    3,491 posts since Jan '14
    • Service 920G/W

      Current route to Bukit Panjang Ring Rd (Bangkit LRT)

      Bangkit Rd

      Bukit Panjang Rd

      Pending Rd

      Petir Rd

      Bukit Panjang Int

      Links Saujana Rd currently only served 1 feeder and no LRT to Pending Rd/Petir Rd

      I know this is a rather useless suggestion, but isn't 920 rather useless now besides serving Saujana Rd?

      Edited by SBS3004X 05 May `17, 12:11PM
  • sgxiaobusguy's Avatar
    24 posts since Mar '15
    • It is only a matter of time before Buangkok MRT gets its crowd..at least 4 BTOs launching late 2017/2018 at Buangkok Crescent area. Definitely there will be new bus routes hopefully linking residents to both Buangkok & Serangoon (suggested by many enthusiasts in previous pages, and by virtue that Buangkok is the nearest MRT station) - or else the route planners are really kumgong to think 101 can serve every residents there, albeit taking a more winding route to Hougang.
      Edited by sgxiaobusguy 06 May `17, 1:15PM
  • Sbs6750E's Avatar
    1,930 posts since May '15
    • Originally posted by sgxiaobusguy:


      there could had been more potential paxes using Buangkok MRT if you ask me. Nowadays, Sengkang and Hougang stns are packed but Buangkok is underutilised. New bus links would be good to reduce crowding on the LRT and to spread out the load. Views from a Sengkanger here. ;)

  • array88's Avatar
    1,400 posts since May '14
    • Originally posted by Sbs6750E:


      there could had been more potential paxes using Buangkok MRT if you ask me. Nowadays, Sengkang and Hougang stns are packed but Buangkok is underutilised. New bus links would be good to reduce crowding on the LRT and to spread out the load. Views from a Sengkanger here. ;)

      102 could have skipped Sengkang MRT and linked Sengkang West residents to Buangkok directly. But guess LTA didn't dare not to provide a direct connection to Sengkang town centre.

      Edited by array88 06 May `17, 9:03PM
  • SBS3004X's Avatar
    3,491 posts since Jan '14
    • Originally posted by array88:

      102 could have skipped Sengkang MRT and linked Sengkang West residents to Buangkok directly. But guess LTA didn't dare not to provide a direct connection to Sengkang town centre.

      Service 104

      Hougang Central Int - Jalan Kayu (Loop)

      Hougang Central

      Hougang Ave 5

      Hougang Ave 7 (towards Ave 8)

      Upper Serangoon Rd (towards Sengkang East Dr)

      Buangkok Dr

      Sengkang Ctrl

      Sengkang East Ave (towards West Ave)

      Anchorvale Rd

      Sengkang East/West Way

      Jalan Kayu (Loop)

      Duplicating sectors with Service 102 at Upper Serangoon Rd/Buangkok Drive and Sengkang East Way/Jalan Kayu, serving Hougang Ave 5/7 and Anchorvale Link but skipping Sengkang Town Centre

      Full SD fleet.

      Edited by SBS3004X 07 May `17, 5:31PM
    • Originally posted by Sbs6750E:


      there could had been more potential paxes using Buangkok MRT if you ask me. Nowadays, Sengkang and Hougang stns are packed but Buangkok is underutilised. New bus links would be good to reduce crowding on the LRT and to spread out the load. Views from a Sengkanger here. ;)

      I have suggested quite a few bus services here to improve bus links from Hougang/Sengkang towns to Buangkok MRT.

      Besides making it easier for residents in Hougang/Sengkang to use Buangkok MRT (and avoid the crowds at Hougang/Sengkang), these services also link residents around Buangkok MRT to other parts of Hougang/Sengkang, as the area is also under-served by bus services currently.

    • Originally posted by autumncs:

      Between Serangoon MRT and Punggol MRT on NEL, Buangkok MRT is the only station without a shopping mall. Maybe that explains the lack of crowds.

      If every station also needs a shopping mall, what will happen in the future when there are many more MRT lines? Many shopping malls will have not enough tenants.

    • My suggested Buangkok MRT bus services:

      Service 108: Hougang Ctrl - Sengkang East Way (Loop) via Hougang Ave 4/9, Hougang St 91/51, Sengkang Ctrl (Buangkok MRT), Anchorvale Link, Anchorvale Rd

      Service 152: Kovan Ter - Compassvale Cres (Loop) via Lor Ah Soo, Serangoon Ctrl, YCK Rd, Buangkok Cres, Buangkok Dr, Sengkang Ctrl , Sengkang Town Centre

      Feeder 375G/W: Compassvale Int - Anchorvale Link/Sengkang Ctrl/Rivervale Dr

      Feeder 376: Compassvale Int - Sengkang Ctrl (Loop) via Sengkang East/West Way, Sengkang West Rd, Sengkang West Ave, Fernvale Link, Buangkok Dr

       

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    20,293 posts since Nov '03
    • 34M Punggol--Tampines Int(Loop)

      Follow 34 from PGL to Our sports hub then turn left and left again to Int.

      Fleet:3 DDs / 3 SDs  5 AP / 1 S.

      Frequencies between 8-15 mins..

      Edited by carbikebus 09 May `17, 10:02AM
  • ButIAmAToilet's Avatar
    331 posts since Jun '14
    • Svc 39 TC - Yishun via Nee Soon

      Current route to SLE

      SLE to Upp Thomson Rd

      Upp Thomson/Sembawang Rd (Springleaf MRT/NSC)

      Yishun Ave 1 (pair of stops right after/before Yishun Ave 1/Sembawang junction)

      Continue route to Yishun

       

      The current route from Lentor flyover to NSC on optimal conditions, will take about 25-30 mins (xfer to 169 at Yishun). This amendment will cut short the journey to about 10 mins. An additional 5 mins to travel back to Ave 1/2 junction. In addition, this amendment also shorten travel time from TPE/Jln Kayu to areas like Tagore (xfer to 138/167/169/980 at Nee Soon) and Sembawang Airbase. It also shorten travel time for pax travelling northbound on the NSL by xfering at Khatib instead of Yishun. The 3 stops skipped along Lentor still have subsitutes like 858 and 969. Furthermore, the middle pair of stops are used for pax heading to NSC, by alighting there and walking about 30mins to NSC. The reservoir pair of stops are used by pax heading towards Sembawang Airbase, and walkong about 10mins along Ave 1. This amendment effectively replace the 2 important skipped pairs of stops along Lentor.

  • AJQZC's Avatar
    1,021 posts since Sep '08
    • Originally posted by ButIAmAToilet:

      Svc 39 TC - Yishun via Nee Soon

      Current route to SLE

      SLE to Upp Thomson Rd

      Upp Thomson/Sembawang Rd (Springleaf MRT/NSC)

      Yishun Ave 1 (pair of stops right after/before Yishun Ave 1/Sembawang junction)

      Continue route to Yishun

       

      The current route from Lentor flyover to NSC on optimal conditions, will take about 25-30 mins (xfer to 169 at Yishun). This amendment will cut short the journey to about 10 mins. An additional 5 mins to travel back to Ave 1/2 junction. In addition, this amendment also shorten travel time from TPE/Jln Kayu to areas like Tagore (xfer to 138/167/169/980 at Nee Soon) and Sembawang Airbase. It also shorten travel time for pax travelling northbound on the NSL by xfering at Khatib instead of Yishun. The 3 stops skipped along Lentor still have subsitutes like 858 and 969. Furthermore, the middle pair of stops are used for pax heading to NSC, by alighting there and walking about 30mins to NSC. The reservoir pair of stops are used by pax heading towards Sembawang Airbase, and walkong about 10mins along Ave 1. This amendment effectively replace the 2 important skipped pairs of stops along Lentor.

      Support. The stretch of Sembawang Rd / Upp Thomson Rd is badly connected, transferring to and from 169 at Yishun Central really isn't convenient. Also 138/167/980 don't have HCs or particularly good frequencies.

      Only forseeable problem is the loss of direct / quick link between Yishun & Pasir Ris (something that LTA may complain about if suggested).

      Btw any considerations with using 85 instead? It has a shorter route (18km) and an easy alternative for Punggol travellers (117).

      Edited by AJQZC 10 May `17, 11:40PM
  • dupdup77's Avatar
    3,046 posts since Nov '13
    • Originally posted by AJQZC:

      Support. The stretch of Sembawang Rd / Upp Thomson Rd is badly connected, transferring to and from 169 at Yishun Central really isn't convenient. Also 138/167/980 don't have HCs or particularly good frequencies.

      Only forseeable problem is the loss of direct / quick link between Yishun & Pasir Ris (something that LTA may complain about if suggested).

      Btw any considerations with using 85 instead? It has a shorter route (18km) and an easy alternative for Punggol travellers (117).

      Hi mr AJQZC, Sengkang west residents will lose the fast link to yishun if service 85 is amended. Cheers. Thanks.

  • SMB1368T's Avatar
    1,135 posts since Mar '16
    • I dont support that. First of all 39 has never been amended all this while as its main role is to directly bring northern people to the eastern area. Many people get to that area for some reasons, and by amending it they can no longer have easy access to there (like what u said), since people dont really like to waste time. Its not easy to make amendments there now since people have used this route for more than 10 years already

      Then, resources and road conditions must be at the top of all priorities. I know its easy to convert SDs into DDs since there is probably a LOT of DDs available, however from what I know going through that road actually takes a long time, in addition to the extension of SLE it has to serve (although its probably just 2km), and as I said the people cannot afford to accept this since this has been the fastest and only link to PSR, not to mention that it has been here for a long time

      Though ironically I have a route which can help that

      man this is a throwback of when someone wanted to cut short 966...

      Edited by SMB1368T 11 May `17, 6:53AM
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    20,293 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by AJQZC:

      Support. The stretch of Sembawang Rd / Upp Thomson Rd is badly connected, transferring to and from 169 at Yishun Central really isn't convenient. Also 138/167/980 don't have HCs or particularly good frequencies.

      Only forseeable problem is the loss of direct / quick link between Yishun & Pasir Ris (something that LTA may complain about if suggested).

      Btw any considerations with using 85 instead? It has a shorter route (18km) and an easy alternative for Punggol travellers (117).

      Commuters dont take 85 to Yishun from Punggol.The main loadings to Yishun is from Sengkang West/Jln Kayu to Yishun bro.Most 85 commuters take from Punggol to Sengkang West.

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