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  • CZT's Avatar
    440 posts since Jun '16
    • Originally posted by Waynechew1003:

      Tbh 902 can extend its ops  hour during the exam period till 4pm with a frequency of 5- 10 mins

      Actually can 902 be extended to somewhere else and serve other residents/workers? Is the industrial park ahead possible?

  • Path Light's Avatar
    1,655 posts since Feb '15
    • Originally posted by SBS2609H:

      Service 164 

      Compassvale Bus Int to Seletar Aerospace Dr (Loop)

      Sengkang East Road

      Sengkang East Avenue

      Sengkang West Avenue

      Sengkang West Road

      Seletar Aerospace Way

      Seletar Aerospace Dr (Loop)

       

      Good route. LTA would look on this

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,761 posts since Nov '03
  • Sbs6750E's Avatar
    1,909 posts since May '15
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      136:Punggol Int-Serangoon Garden Way(Loop)

      11 SD / 3 DD


      What for?

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,761 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by Sbs6750E:


      What for?

      Weekends always waste time due to the jams..Come to AMK only a few pax and BCs don't have time to rest either

  • Sbs6750E's Avatar
    1,909 posts since May '15
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Weekends always waste time due to the jams..Come to AMK only a few pax and BCs don't have time to rest either


      Like that 73 also must loop there ah bro?

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,761 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by Sbs6750E:


      Like that 73 also must loop there ah bro?

      73,315 & 317 different stories

  • ButIAmAToilet's Avatar
    328 posts since Jun '14
    • 18 - Pasir Ris - UEC

      Proposed Svc 68 route to Tamp Concourse

      Current Svc 18 route to Bedok Nth MRT

      Bedok Nth St 3, New Upp Changi Rd

      Bedok Sth Rd, Ave 1, Upp East Coast Rd

      -Connect Pasir Ris West/Tamp Nth/Central with Tamp Retail Park

      -Supplement Svc 28/67 along Bedok Nth Ave 3 - Bedok MRT (with better frequency too)

      -Connect Bayshore area to Bedok MRT/Ctrl (no existing connection)

  • iveco's Avatar
    17,027 posts since Mar '04
  • Sbs6750E's Avatar
    1,909 posts since May '15
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      73,315 & 317 different stories


      I know 315/317 but 73? Also waste time go TPY leh and not much loading also.

    • Originally posted by iveco:

      Bedok to Bayshore covered by 14.


      Too winding bro.

  • Waynechew1003's Avatar
    99 posts since Apr '17
    • Originally posted by Sbs6750E:


      I know 315/317 but 73? Also waste time go TPY leh and not much loading also.

      Loading to tpy still okay as people still travel from Serangoon garden to tpy

  • Lovinsgbuses's Avatar
    15 posts since Jul '17
    • Not very sure (so sorry if it's wrong) but iirc 858 in the past used to go via Admiralty MRT rite? To reduce the winding around Woodlands and Sembawang, how about 858 is amended this way:

      Woodlands Interchange

      Woodlands Avenue 7

      Gambas Avenue


      Usual Route to Airport and use amended route back

      This way, travelling time is reduced by a good 15mins at least! Bunching would be less prone to occur too. However, I recognise that 858 is the only service (apart from perhaps AC7) serving areas such as along Woodlands Ave 10, 1 par on Sembawang Way and again on Woodlands Ave 4. As such, amendments will have to be made to existing services in order to not lose these connections. This can be done as such:

      Service 900/A (amended)

      Woodlands Interchange

      Woodlands Ave 7

      Woodlands St 83

      Woodlands Ave 4


      Usual route to Woodlands Dr 14/Champions Way and use amended route back

      Service 902 (amended, convert to full day)

      Woodlands Interchange

      Woodlands Ave 2

      Woodlands Ave 9

      Gambas Ave

      Woodlands Ave 7 (Admiralty Stn)

      Woodlands Dr 71

      Woodlands Ring Rd

      Woodlands Dr 63

      Woodlands Ave 6

      Woodlands Ave 7 and use amended route back

      Service 980

      Sembawang Interchange

      Sembawang Vista

      Canberra Rd

      Admiralty Dr

      Sembawang Way

      Sembawang Dr

      Usual route to Geylang Lor 1 and use amended route back

      --------------------------------------------------------------------

      Pros:
      - (858) Reduced travelling time by abt 15mins and less bunching, making svc more reliable

      - (900) Helps to cover lost sector of 858, possibly reduce loading slightly on 911

      - (902) Provides Gambas area with a feeder svc connecting them to nearby Admiralty MRT, replaces lost sectors of 858

      - (980) Provides Admiralty Dr residents with a new, faster option to get to Sembawang MRT, replaces lost sectors of 858

      Cons:
      - (858) Removes diect connections to Airport for residents along deleted sectors
      Solution: Use amended services and MRT to get to Yishun to continue on 858, since 858 is still a preferred option from North to Airport and it is fast

      - (900) 3mins +- detour, pax along later part of route may find 900 a bit winding
      Solution: 900 provides unique connections to those areas along it's route, so pax will still use 900 to get to their destinations. The detour is also considered minor, so it should not be too much of a problem

      - (902) Duplicates 169 entirely up till Woodlands Ave 9
      Solution: (can't think of any, still needs to use this Rd in one way or another)

      --------------------------------------------------------------------

      Making this many route amendments for 1 service may not be worthwhile unless the demand for this change is strong enough. Considering the different factors, what do you guys think about this?

  • lemon1974's Avatar
    9,241 posts since Dec '04
    • Originally posted by Lovinsgbuses:

      Not very sure (so sorry if it's wrong) but iirc 858 in the past used to go via Admiralty MRT rite? To reduce the winding around Woodlands and Sembawang, how about 858 is amended this way:

      Woodlands Interchange

      Woodlands Avenue 7

      Gambas Avenue


      Usual Route to Airport and use amended route back

      This way, travelling time is reduced by a good 15mins at least! Bunching would be less prone to occur too. However, I recognise that 858 is the only service (apart from perhaps AC7) serving areas such as along Woodlands Ave 10, 1 par on Sembawang Way and again on Woodlands Ave 4. As such, amendments will have to be made to existing services in order to not lose these connections. This can be done as such:

      Service 900/A (amended)

      Woodlands Interchange

      Woodlands Ave 7

      Woodlands St 83

      Woodlands Ave 4


      Usual route to Woodlands Dr 14/Champions Way and use amended route back

      Service 902 (amended, convert to full day)

      Woodlands Interchange

      Woodlands Ave 2

      Woodlands Ave 9

      Gambas Ave

      Woodlands Ave 7 (Admiralty Stn)

      Woodlands Dr 71

      Woodlands Ring Rd

      Woodlands Dr 63

      Woodlands Ave 6

      Woodlands Ave 7 and use amended route back

      Service 980

      Sembawang Interchange

      Sembawang Vista

      Canberra Rd

      Admiralty Dr

      Sembawang Way

      Sembawang Dr

      Usual route to Geylang Lor 1 and use amended route back

      --------------------------------------------------------------------

      Pros:
      - (858) Reduced travelling time by abt 15mins and less bunching, making svc more reliable

      - (900) Helps to cover lost sector of 858, possibly reduce loading slightly on 911

      - (902) Provides Gambas area with a feeder svc connecting them to nearby Admiralty MRT, replaces lost sectors of 858

      - (980) Provides Admiralty Dr residents with a new, faster option to get to Sembawang MRT, replaces lost sectors of 858

      Cons:
      - (858) Removes diect connections to Airport for residents along deleted sectors
      Solution: Use amended services and MRT to get to Yishun to continue on 858, since 858 is still a preferred option from North to Airport and it is fast

      - (900) 3mins +- detour, pax along later part of route may find 900 a bit winding
      Solution: 900 provides unique connections to those areas along it's route, so pax will still use 900 to get to their destinations. The detour is also considered minor, so it should not be too much of a problem

      - (902) Duplicates 169 entirely up till Woodlands Ave 9
      Solution: (can't think of any, still needs to use this Rd in one way or another)

      --------------------------------------------------------------------

      Making this many route amendments for 1 service may not be worthwhile unless the demand for this change is strong enough. Considering the different factors, what do you guys think about this?

      so this amended route of 858 duplicate 969 all the way till TPE.

      Edited by lemon1974 08 Sep `17, 11:05AM
  • SMB1368T's Avatar
    1,038 posts since Mar '16
    • You can just make it simple like this: 

      968 (Woodlands to Yishun)

      *follow exact 858 route to Yishun

      858 (SEM to CGA)

      Via

      Canberra Estate

      Yishun Ave 2

      Follow 858 route to CGA

    • I am actually looking forward for the implementation of 271 which is really good

  • Lovinsgbuses's Avatar
    15 posts since Jul '17
    • Ooh ok I understand. Yea it would be better, thanks :)

      Edited by Lovinsgbuses 08 Sep `17, 12:12PM
  • iamgoondu's Avatar
    863 posts since Dec '03
    • i want to propose amending the route for 32 for additional connectivity beteeen Commonwealth Ave and Holland Road, presently this is served by 970, ftequency running at 17min or worse.

       

      For bus32, instead Commonwealth Ave, Holland Drive , BV terminal, amend it to:

       

      Commonwealth Ave, Holland Ave/Road/Drive, BV terminal. 

       

       

       

      Bus970 frequency is very bad. And there is another 145 that ply direct from Commonwealth Ave to Holland Drive. Thus my propose change will have very little impact to existing commuters. 

      Edited by iamgoondu 09 Sep `17, 10:25AM
  • gekpohboy's Avatar
    2,180 posts since Mar '16
    • Originally posted by iamgoondu:

      i want to propose amending the route for 32 for additional connectivity beteeen Commonwealth Ave and Holland Road, presently this is served by 970, ftequency running at 17min or worse.

       

      For bus32, instead Commonwealth Ave, Holland Drive , BV terminal, amend it to:

       

      Commonwealth Ave, Holland Ave/Road/Drive, BV terminal. 

      Okay. Point noted. 970 frequency can be improved if there's a demand. Thanks for the suggestion.

      Edited by gekpohboy 09 Sep `17, 1:57PM
  • iamgoondu's Avatar
    863 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by gekpohboy:

      Okay. Point noted. 970 frequency can be improved if there's a demand. Thanks anyway.

       

      970 is not really a popular route but it served an essential link beteen Commonwealth Ave MRT and Holland Ave/Road. 970 demand is only at it peak during evening peak hours for residents making train/bus transfer from Commonwealth MRT to BV estate.

       

      Increase 970 frequency outside evening peak hours is not my intent.But by amending existing 32 or 145, even if it is just for evening peak in direction to bv terminal, it can greatly lessen the agony for train/bus transfer for many BV residents.  More will benefit and only few will be impacted by a slighly longer traveling distance.

       

      there are even commuters  making the extra efforts, waiting for bus61 at the busstop after  Commonwealth MRT. with trains running at 2 or 3 minutes intervals, commuters now are more demanding. 

      Edited by iamgoondu 09 Sep `17, 10:54AM
  • AJQZC's Avatar
    987 posts since Sep '08
    • Probably another featherweight suggestion:

      Queen St -- Tomlinson Rd (loop)

      • - Queen St Term
      • - Rochor Rd
      • - Bencoolen St   [Bencoolen MRT]
      • - Orchard Rd
      • - Penang Rd   [Dhoby Ghaut MRT]
      • - Somerset Rd   [Somerset MRT]
      • - Grange Rd
      • - Orchard Blvd   [Orchard MRT]
      • - Tomlinson Rd
      • - Orchard Rd   [Orchard / Somerset / Dhoby Ghaut MRT]
      • - Bras Basah Rd   [Bencoolen / Bras Basah MRT]
      • - Victoria St   [Bugis MRT]
      • - Queen St Term

      To complement service 65, for DTL3 travellers who would prefer a faster route to Orchard. Seeing that there is neither paid link nor free transfer option between Bencoolen and Bras Basah stations.

  • array88's Avatar
    1,328 posts since May '14
    • Originally posted by iamgoondu:

       

      970 is not really a popular route but it served an essential link beteen Commonwealth Ave MRT and Holland Ave/Road. 970 demand is only at it peak during evening peak hours for residents making train/bus transfer from Commonwealth MRT to BV estate.

       

      Increase 970 frequency outside evening peak hours is not my intent.But by amending existing 32 or 145, even if it is just for evening peak in direction to bv terminal, it can greatly lessen the agony for train/bus transfer for many BV residents.  More will benefit and only few will be impacted by a slighly longer traveling distance.

       

      there are even commuters  making the extra efforts, waiting for bus61 at the busstop after  Commonwealth MRT. with trains running at 2 or 3 minutes intervals, commuters now are more demanding. 

      I think 122 can do the job much better since it's already a loop service. Just make it skip Commonwealth Dr and loop at Holland Ave/Rd/Dr. Can even loop at North Buona Vista Rd where there's no bus service.

    • Originally posted by AJQZC:

      Probably another featherweight suggestion:

      Queen St -- Tomlinson Rd (loop)

      • - Queen St Term
      • - Rochor Rd
      • - Bencoolen St   [Bencoolen MRT]
      • - Orchard Rd
      • - Penang Rd   [Dhoby Ghaut MRT]
      • - Somerset Rd   [Somerset MRT]
      • - Grange Rd
      • - Orchard Blvd   [Orchard MRT]
      • - Tomlinson Rd
      • - Orchard Rd   [Orchard / Somerset / Dhoby Ghaut MRT]
      • - Bras Basah Rd   [Bencoolen / Bras Basah MRT]
      • - Victoria St   [Bugis MRT]
      • - Queen St Term

      To complement service 65, for DTL3 travellers who would prefer a faster route to Orchard. Seeing that there is neither paid link nor free transfer option between Bencoolen and Bras Basah stations.

      This route has potential to be extended further or even become a semi-express service (to Sengkang/Punggol, etc). Current route is too short and will probably have poor loading.

  • iveco's Avatar
    17,027 posts since Mar '04
    • Originally posted by array88:

      I think 122 can do the job much better since it's already a loop service. Just make it skip Commonwealth Dr and loop at Holland Ave/Rd/Dr. Can even loop at North Buona Vista Rd where there's no bus service.

      122 can be extended to loop at Holland Village, 95-style.

      Edited by iveco 21 Sep `17, 4:34PM
  • AJQZC's Avatar
    987 posts since Sep '08
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