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  • Sbs6750E's Avatar
    1,921 posts since May '15
  • SMB128B's Avatar
    4,933 posts since May '11
    • Haiz... Now are the days when thread starting post start with "continue here"... Smh

  • Darrylpohmaple's Avatar
    72 posts since Oct '13
    • Originally posted by SBS8002T:

      I kinda agree on yr suggestion, SLBP have just way too many new buses as spare buses For me, I would use the CDGEs to replace the retiring VO3X while transferring some of the new buses out Depot transfer: BBDEP to SLBP - 20 CDGEs, exchange for 25 Wrights AMDEP to SLBP - 30 CDGEs, exchange for 30 wrights Total CDGEs in SLBP = 35 (current) + 55 = 80 CDGEs


      This is based on your thoughts. My thoughts could be more of that.

      Originally posted by Sbs6750E:

      siao ah? So many CDGEs to SLBP for what? Why can't WEGs replace VO3X?


      To tell you the truth, 291 doesn't even need CDGE buses to suit demand on the service itself. Another one is AMDEP/BRBP have too many CDGE Buses and therefore need to adjust the proportion of the number CDGE buses with SLBP.

  • Darrylpohmaple's Avatar
    72 posts since Oct '13
    • I believe within the next few months, more CDGE buses will be transferred over SLBP from BBDEP/ARBP or even from AMDEP/BRBP, CGBP.

      Edited by Darrylpohmaple 07 Aug `16, 10:49PM
  • SBS3004X's Avatar
    3,491 posts since Jan '14
    • Fleet variety (BBDEP):

      SBS7386S (80) <> SBS7618Z (5)

      SBS7316U (SP) <> SBS3204K (7)

      SBS7352P (196) <> SBS7611S (99)

      SBS7339D (147) <> SBS7607E (165)

      SBS7324X (SP) <> SBS3168G (166)

      SBS7365C (SP) <> SBS3093M (201)

      Swapping 1 CDGE to services without CDGE at all in its fleet (even from the other depot for dual depot services). Except 5 and 7.

      And I don't want the Voith CDGEs. They are just slowcoaches. I have taken one (SBS7426K) before on 43M and it was struggling to even move at all! Not exaggerating. 

      Edited by SBS3004X 08 Aug `16, 10:46PM
  • Sbs6750E's Avatar
    1,921 posts since May '15
    • You are obviously exaggerating on the voith CDGEs part. You got see sv 72 CDGEs never move one ah? I had taken SBS7426K on 80 before, and it was performing okay. What you talking? It's bus problem for that day itself lah dey.

      Originally posted by SBS3004X:

      Fleet variety (BBDEP):

      SBS7386S (80) <> SBS7618Z (5)

      SBS7316U (SP) <> SBS3204K (7)

      SBS7352P (196) <> SBS7611S (99)

      SBS7339D (147) <> SBS7607E (165)

      SBS7324X (SP) <> SBS3168G (166)

      SBS7365C (SP) <> SBS3093M (201)

      Swapping 1 CDGE to services without CDGE at all in its fleet (even from the other depot for dual depot services).

      And I don't want the Voith CDGEs. They are just slowcoaches. I have taken one (SBS7426K) before on 43M and it was struggling to even move at all! Not exaggerating. 


  • SBS3004X's Avatar
    3,491 posts since Jan '14
    • Originally posted by Sbs6750E:

      You are obviously exaggerating on the voith CDGEs part. You got see sv 72 CDGEs never move one ah? I had taken SBS7426K on 80 before, and it was performing okay. What you talking? It's bus problem for that day itself lah dey.

       

      I have seen SBS7415S on 70 also moving really like a snail. And the engine was roaring.

      Edited by SBS3004X 08 Aug `16, 10:43PM
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    20,059 posts since Nov '03
    • You ah from svc 43 to Bbdep/Arbp fleets..Now CDGE issue,Later the Wrights start to roar you also will complain right?If you are in charge of bus fleets i am pretty sure all will go haywire follow your favour only..

  • SBS6853S's Avatar
    198 posts since Mar '16
    • CDGEs are much faster and much more powerful than ZF Wrights. can experience from driving

  • SBS3004X's Avatar
    3,491 posts since Jan '14
    • Originally posted by SBS6853S:

      CDGEs are much faster and much more powerful than ZF Wrights. can experience from driving

      ZF CDGEs are better than ZF Wrights. But I still think that Voith CDGEs are the worst DDs currently in service. Luckily SBST didn't buy 150 Voith and 50 ZF back then.

      Edited by SBS3004X 09 Aug `16, 2:15PM
  • Make $50 A Day's Avatar
    2 posts since Aug '16
  • SBS3004X's Avatar
    3,491 posts since Jan '14
    • Originally posted by Make $50 A Day:

      I don't think so.

      What a username!

      Count money Singapore...

  • SBS6853S's Avatar
    198 posts since Mar '16
    • Originally posted by SBS3004X:

      ZF CDGEs are better than ZF Wrights. But I still think that Voith CDGEs are the worst DDs currently in service. Luckily SBST didn't buy 150 Voith and 50 ZF back then.

      yes Voith CDGE lousy. However for WEG2 is Batch 1 - 3 soso Batch 4 lousy due to malfunctioned brakes

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    20,059 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by SBS6853S:

      yes Voith CDGE lousy. However for WEG2 is Batch 1 - 3 soso Batch 4 lousy due to malfunctioned brakes

      Huh?Malfuntioned brakes?Then how the buses stop then?

  • SBS6853S's Avatar
    198 posts since Mar '16
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Huh?Malfuntioned brakes?Then how the buses stop then?

      not really malfunction... is like u step a bit got the "pulling" effect

  • SBS8002T's Avatar
    254 posts since Feb '16
    • My suggestion for fleet upgrade/downgrades:

       

      30 - SLBP side full DD (536 is going to another operator)

      99 - Full DD fleet with 23 buses, no SD buses

      111 - Add 1 AP DD

      145 - 7 DDs, 16 SDs, 145 is spammed with too many buses to the point where bunching is extremely common

      198 - Full DD fleet for this high demand service, BNL queues can hit above 40 pax during PM peak (though there is 157 and 187 complimenting 198, 198 seems to be the preferred choice due to its frequency and majority DD fleet)

      242 - doing well with current fleet but can exchange 2 SD for 1 DD, high bunching tendancy near the looping point during peak

      243G/W - B10BLEs and DDs only, convert 2 WAB SD to 1 DD, 243 is overly spammed with SD buses

      256 - Full SD fleet, add 1 bus to boost peak hour frequency

       

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    20,059 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by SBS6853S:

      not really malfunction... is like u step a bit got the "pulling" effect

      Every high capacity buses with ABS got that pulling effect to prevent the bus from swaying and overshot.

  • SBS6853S's Avatar
    198 posts since Mar '16
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Every high capacity buses with ABS got that pulling effect to prevent the bus from swaying and overshot.

      as in like it jerks forward everytime u step on brake... older batches have also not that strong jerky feeling

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    20,059 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by SBS6853S:

      as in like it jerks forward everytime u step on brake... older batches have also not that strong jerky feeling

      Newer buses,Thats why you need to know your bus after you drive it out from the depot.Its not easy driving a public buses,You need to think of the passengers comfort and safety.

  • SBS3004X's Avatar
    3,491 posts since Jan '14
    • Massive kicking out of CDGE Voith :)

      SBS7342T SBS7403B BNDEP 196 > BNDEP SP

      SG5347E SG5348C BNDEP SP > BNDEP 196

      SBS7343R SLBP 258 > SLBP SP

      SG5315Y SLBP SP > SLBP 258

      SBS7346H SBS7408M SBS7417L BNDEP 14 > BNDEP SP

      SG5351S SG5352P SG5355G BNDEP SP > BNDEP 14

      SBS7404Z SBS7414U SBS7421Z SBS7423T SBS7424R SBS7428E SBS7445E AMDEP 72 > AMDEP SP

      SBS3871J SBS3947A SBS7349A SG5332Y SG5366A SG5397K SG5398H AMDEP SP > AMDEP 72

  • SBS3004X's Avatar
    3,491 posts since Jan '14
    • SBS7405Z SLBP 192 > SLBP SP

      SG5337J SLBP SP > SLBP 192

      SBS7406T SLBP 199 > SLBP SP

      SG5339D SLBP SP > SLBP 199

      SBS7409K CGBP 28 > BNDEP SP

      SG5357B BNDEP SP > CGBP 28

      SBS7411C ARBP 80 > BBDEP SP

      SG5389J BBDEP SP > ARBP 80

      SBS7413Y BNDEP 5 > BNDEP SP

      SG5372G BNDEP SP > BNDEP 5

      SBS7415S AMDEP 70 > AMDEP SP

      SG5399E AMDEP SP > AMDEP 70

      SBS7416P SBS7419G SBS7427H SBS7441R AMDEP 76 > AMDEP SP

      SBS3696Z (BRBP) SBS3943K SBS7451L SG5368U AMDEP SP > AMDEP 76

      Edited by SBS3004X 11 Aug `16, 8:28PM
  • SBS3004X's Avatar
    3,491 posts since Jan '14
    • (SG5382C is very likely perm AMDEP 70 replacing SBS9577U.)

      BRBP bus may have to come in to AMDEP to replace SBS9580J on 133.

      Edited by SBS3004X 11 Aug `16, 8:29PM
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    20,059 posts since Nov '03
    • Why you wanna kick out those buses?Unless LTA instruction,SBST will jollywell use them until their lifespan end.

  • SBS3004X's Avatar
    3,491 posts since Jan '14
    • At the meantime, BRBP should take some of the (not registered yet) 54xx Wrights for its own spare usage and to upgrade 145.

  • SBS3004X's Avatar
    3,491 posts since Jan '14
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Why you wanna kick out those buses?Unless LTA instruction,SBST will jollywell use them until their lifespan end.

      Just kick to SP only. So that these buses will be used less often, not scrapped.

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