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  • gekpohboy's Avatar
    2,180 posts since Mar '16
  • wsy1234's Avatar
    1,639 posts since Aug '07
    •  

      icon_biggrin.gif    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYXTLtkSQFI

       

      Mercedes-Benz Buses | Future Bus with CityPilot

  • gekpohboy's Avatar
    2,180 posts since Mar '16
  • Zingor Burger's Avatar
    14 posts since Oct '17
    • Any possibility that they may abandon the project because of too high costs?

      Because I don’t see that self-driving buses will pick up steam anytime soon. Costs is high, and the technology itself still has a long way to go before it has the capacity to replace the regular buses that we have today.

      Because until now all the autonomous buses I see all carry a few passengers only... it’s not even able to provide a shuttle for serious hardcore travelers, but only as an attraction for people wanting to try out the technology.

      Edited by Zingor Burger 23 Oct `17, 12:40AM
    • Besides, why not just wait for the big players (eg. Volvo) to develop the autonomous buses, then we just import the buses from them? Save on the R&D, which I feel is not necessary considering other people are also doing the same thing.

      We also never manufacture our buses, or cars for that matter, so why now all of a sudden we want to conceive, design and implement autonomous buses from scratch?

      Just wait for the big players to create the autonomous buses, later then we purchase the buses from them, like how we are purchasing hybrid buses now, which in fact would be cheaper, as the buses would already be developed (save on R&D) and probably mass-produced for the growing global market, as fossil fuels deplete and people start to look for electric buses and autonomous buses at the same time (enjoy economies of scale).

      Anyway, this is only my two cents worth.

      Feel free to contribute to this discussion thread. Thanks.

      Edited by Zingor Burger 23 Oct `17, 12:57AM
  • TIB987K's Avatar
    2,075 posts since Oct '12
  • wsy1234's Avatar
    1,639 posts since Aug '07
    • hopfully no accident like google driverless car. Still I think LTA should look at the German driverless bus instead of too fast come out own technologies and imperment them.  and the bus is too small for use 

  • CZT's Avatar
    530 posts since Jun '16
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  • array88's Avatar
    1,475 posts since May '14
    • Originally posted by CZT:

      They say tengah? Wow 5 years from now that town will be ready? Jurong residents, may i ask if there is anything going on there liao? Or still military airbase?

      Perhaps they will have the roads ready and buses running empty like 944 right now... Who knows

  • CB2883J's Avatar
    367 posts since Sep '15
    • Originally posted by Zingor Burger:

      Besides, why not just wait for the big players (eg. Volvo) to develop the autonomous buses, then we just import the buses from them? Save on the R&D, which I feel is not necessary considering other people are also doing the same thing.

      We also never manufacture our buses, or cars for that matter, so why now all of a sudden we want to conceive, design and implement autonomous buses from scratch?

      Just wait for the big players to create the autonomous buses, later then we purchase the buses from them, like how we are purchasing hybrid buses now, which in fact would be cheaper, as the buses would already be developed (save on R&D) and probably mass-produced for the growing global market, as fossil fuels deplete and people start to look for electric buses and autonomous buses at the same time (enjoy economies of scale).

      Anyway, this is only my two cents worth.

      Feel free to contribute to this discussion thread. Thanks.

      ST Kinetics is the MAN dealer, so chances are they will be developing the product based on an existing bus type. The advantages of having it partially developed locally would definitely include suitability to local road conditions. Especially since autonomous vehicles would require a high degree of "knowledge" of the rules of the road, and localisation such as reading road markings, this would decrease the suitability of a wholesale-imported product.

  • CZT's Avatar
    530 posts since Jun '16
    • Originally posted by array88:

      Perhaps they will have the roads ready and buses running empty like 944 right now... Who knows

      oh yah hor. Then accidents would be unaccounted/no one takes responsibility coz the victims are wildboars

  • Omeedmaahir's Avatar
    1 post since Dec '17
  • Marvel68's Avatar
    288 posts since Oct '14
    • Driverless electric buses to be tested from 2019 in collaboration between NTU, Volvo


      SINGAPORE: Driverless buses meant for public transport will be tested from early 2019 at Nanyang Technological University’s (NTU) test circuit in Jurong, under a collaboration with Volvo.

      Both parties signed an agreement on Thursday (Jan 11) to test two 40-seater autonomous electric buses at NTU’s Centre of Excellence for Testing and Research of Autonomous Vehicles. The test circuit replicates road conditions in Singapore, with common traffic schemes, road infrastructure and traffic rules.

      It also features a rain simulator and flood zone to test the vehicles' navigation abilities under tropical weather conditions. 

      The trial will be supported by transport operator SMRT, which will be involved in determining the roadworthiness of the driverless electric buses.

      One of the buses will undergo tests at a bus depot managed by SMRT, to assess the vehicle's ability to autonomously navigate vehicle washing bays and park safely at charging areas. 

      If successful, SMRT said the buses will serve commuters in the coming years, although it did not give a timeline.

      The 12m-long buses will be equipped with self-driving technologies such as laser systems for charting and detecting obstacles, as well as an integrated navigation system that includes automated steering, gear changing and speed throttling capabilities. 

      According to Volvo, the buses require 80 per cent less energy than a diesel bus of the same size. Although it will be more expensive to purchase the autonomous electric bus, operational costs will be lower. 

      Said SMRT CEO Desmond Kuek: "We will leverage our extensive experience operating and maintaining buses to support the eventual deployment of autonomous vehicles safely on our roads in the future.

      "Autonomous buses are expected to be fielded in larger scale under the future land transport master plan. Such vehicles will allow optimal deployment of manpower, enabling buses to be deployed on the roads for safe, timely and efficient services, day and night, in all weather and traffic conditions.” 

      NTU and Volvo will also be working with technology company ABB to develop charging solutions for the electric vehicle. 

      Source: CNA/gs
      Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/driverless-electric-buses-to-be-tested-from-2019-in-9851768

  • SG1131L's Avatar
    41 posts since Oct '17
    • Article from Lianhe Wanbao (Chinese newspaper):

      南大和沃尔沃展开无人驾驶巴士试验计划

      南洋理工大学和汽车制造商沃尔沃将在明年初联合展开本地首项无人驾驶巴士试验计划,探讨这类巴士在本地道路自行行驶、充电甚至是洗车的可行性。

      南大和沃尔沃(Volvo)今天下午举办合作协议签署仪式。

      参与计划的两辆沃尔沃7900型电动巴士预计明年初在南大的无人驾驶车测试与研究卓越中心(简称CETRAN)进行周详的内部测试,待确定能安全运作后,再探讨扩大至附近洁净科技园(CleanTech Park)甚至是周围地铁站载客的可能性。

      其中一辆巴士也会在SMRT巴士车厂进行试用,测试巴士自行停车和洗车的功能。

      南大校长苏布拉·苏雷什博士在活动上指出,这项合作计划将作为南大“智能校园”(Smart Campus)愿景一部分。“我们希望这项计划制造出的方案能对新加坡采用无人驾驶技术及改善公共交通的愿景有重大的贡献。”

      沃尔沃巴士总经理阿呢沃尔(Hakan Agnevall)则指出,无人驾驶的电动巴士对于城市明日交通扮演重要的角色。

      他说:“与南大合作的计划将给予我们在实际情况下测试各种无人驾驶方案的独特机会。沃尔沃和南大会采用巴士收集的数据建立起无人驾驶系统。”

      两辆巴士各能接载40人,与一般柴油巴士相比可省下80%电源,只需三至六分钟就能完成充电。

      巴士也装置全球定位系统(GPS)和激光影像监测器(Light Detection And Ranging,简称LiDAR)等智能感应器协助巴士探测周围的障碍物,另也有控制巴士行驶速度和换挡功能的综合导航系统。

      Link: http://www.zaobao.com/

      Edited by SG1131L 14 Jan `18, 2:22PM
    • Translation:

      - NTU and Volvo to trial autonomous buses next year.

      - To assess the feasibility of driving, charging and washing autonomous buses in Singapore.

      - 2 units of Volvo 7900 electric buses will be used in the trial.

      - In the beginning of next year, the vehicles will be tested for safe operation in NTU’s Centre of Excellence for Testing & Research of Autonomous Vehicles.

      - Thereafter, studies will be conducted to assess the feasibility of carrying passengers in Clean Tech Park and surrounding MRT stations.

      - Of the 2 vehicles, 1 of them will also be tested in one of SMRT’s bus depots, to test the function of automatic stopping, and automatic washing.

      - The trial is in line with NTU’s Smart Campus vision.

      - Autonomous buses have an important role in the future of urban transportation.

      - The Volvo 7900 bus can carry 40 people, and use 80% less power as compared to an average diesel bus.

      - It takes only 3 to 6 minutes to charge the bus to 100%

      - The bus is equipped with smart technologies, such as GPS and Light Detection and Ranging, to check for obstacles around the bus, and control the bus navigation systems.

      Edited by SG1131L 14 Jan `18, 2:22PM
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