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  • gekpohboy's Avatar
    2,014 posts since Mar '16
    • Originally posted by sgbuses:

      The last generation of bus lobbyists back in 2010 lobbied day in day out for thousands of Citaros and B9TLs, whining about the K230UBs on the roads.

      Now the current generation of bus lobbyists are lobbying day in day out for thousands of A22s and A95s, and whining about the Citaros and B9TLs on the roads.

      The next generation of bus lobbyists by 2020 is going start lobbying day in day out for their very own shopping list, and whine about thousands of three-door A22s and A95s on the roads.

      And please do not complain when you start paying $2 minimum bus fare next year to fund all of your adventures, and eventually $4.10 by 2020. Capital cost has got to come from somewhere...

      I think it's only that "generation", which is around ten years ago (2007).

      Since when do we have the "next generation"?

      ...

      Anyway, the authorities have the right to block the people who spam their mail boxes, or whatever social media platform that they have.

      The reason is simple. If people keep disturbing the authorities, how are the authorities going to do their work?

      It's okay to feedback, but please have a sense of propriety.

      Edited by gekpohboy 10 Jul `17, 12:05AM
  • sgbuses's Avatar
    2,336 posts since Nov '05
    • Originally posted by dupdup77:

      Hi mr sgbuses, yr 2020 to pay $4.10 minimum? Impossible la. 3 yrs to TRIPLE minimum fare? Unlikely lor. Now want to increase 20 cents people cry father cry mother already. Govt also handling out transport subsidies to certain group of people currently. Please do not try to frighten people off unnecessarily. Cheers. Thanks.

      There's a 30% water price hike by next year. And every bus trip carries a minimum $0.55 subsidy (including feeder transfers) from the Government.

      Edited by sgbuses 10 Jul `17, 11:29AM
    • Originally posted by SMB128B:

      You're taking things to the extreme. Nobody said that ppl will purposely avoid buses without a PIS or USB charging. But ppl will certainly appreciate it when they have these things.

      I'm tired of ppl saying a bus is just a bus. We're not saying we can't live without it. But if there is an OPTION for it i.e. stop buying SBST spec and start buying more A95 etc, then we shouldn't use the excuse of settling for the lesser by comparing with the minimal. 

      Besides by your logic, why are we even procuring European bus models? Won't PRC buses do the job too? Or better still, bangla buses without aircon and has bamboo seats? Bus what.

      Your complaint will automatically go away when LTA retrofits every B9TL with this:

      But keep in mind, this particular city pays $2.78 (230 yen) per bus trip.

  • dupdup77's Avatar
    3,000 posts since Nov '13
    • Originally posted by sgbuses:

      There's a 30% water price hike by next year. And every bus trip carries a minimum $0.55 subsidy (including feeder transfers) from the Government.

      Hi mr sgbuses, finally you hit the right point. I am not against price hikes. I am against the super huge increase in price hikes. 

      Water 30% price hikes after 15-18 years.

      Thus bus fares not possible to increase 300% after 3 yrs. Too much.

      I am not adverse to bus fares hikes of 50 cents to 1 dollar (60% to 80%) more to current rates. But certainly not 300% more with fares starting minimum $4.10. Cheers. Thanks.

  • SMB128B's Avatar
    4,852 posts since May '11
    • Originally posted by sgbuses:

      Your complaint will automatically go away when LTA retrofits every B9TL with this:

      But keep in mind, this particular city pays $2.78 (230 yen) per bus trip.

      Mind if I ask which city is this?

  • SMB145B's Avatar
    2,198 posts since Dec '12
    • Originally posted by SMB128B:

      Mind if I ask which city is this?

      Believe to be Tokyo.

    • Originally posted by sgbuses:

      Your complaint will automatically go away when LTA retrofits every B9TL with this:

      But keep in mind, this particular city pays $2.78 (230 yen) per bus trip.

      We would have such system on trial.

  • sgbuses's Avatar
    2,336 posts since Nov '05
    • Originally posted by SMB128B:

      Mind if I ask which city is this?

      Kyoto. Equipment from LECIP (yes, that same company).

      Edited by sgbuses 10 Jul `17, 3:02PM
  • iveco's Avatar
    16,978 posts since Mar '04
    • Originally posted by sgbuses:

      Your complaint will automatically go away when LTA retrofits every B9TL with this:

      But keep in mind, this particular city pays $2.78 (230 yen) per bus trip.

      $2.78 minimum fare for Jap buses?

  • sgbuses's Avatar
    2,336 posts since Nov '05
    • Originally posted by iveco:

      $2.78 minimum fare for Jap buses?

      Yes, around there. $2.55 for Osaka and Tokyo. $2.78 for Kyoto.

  • SMB145B's Avatar
    2,198 posts since Dec '12
    • Originally posted by sgbuses:

      Yes, around there. $2.55 for Osaka and Tokyo. $2.78 for Kyoto.

      by comparison, ours is only $1.40; half of what they paid.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,506 posts since Nov '03
    • Their salary also different from us leh,Their bus driver earns 3x more than ours though the cost of living is high.

  • TIB868X's Avatar
    1,512 posts since Aug '11
    • Amidst all of these theatrics, PIS and USB ports are ultimately just bells and whistles.

      Perhaps we should have the bus version of Maslow's Hierachy of Needs.

      From bottom to top: Safe buses, buses that bring to to your destination, buses that are comfortable and dont make you sweat buckets, buses that bring you to your destination very quickly and buses with extra features such as PIS and USB chargers.

       

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,506 posts since Nov '03
  • vicamour's Avatar
    1,475 posts since Jan '09
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      This 15 E500 take forever to register ah?

      Are they fully assembled? 

  • A22 fan's Avatar
    40 posts since Jul '17
    • LTA and SMRT seem not hurry to let the 15 batch e500s on the road as more MAN A95 facelifts started to enter service recently. Morever almost all a95 fl are fully assembled. Only when more older bendy buses retire then we are more likely to see these new enviros on the road i guess

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,506 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by A22 fan:

      LTA and SMRT seem not hurry to let the 15 batch e500s on the road as more MAN A95 facelifts started to enter service recently. Morever almost all a95 fl are fully assembled. Only when more older bendy buses retire then we are more likely to see these new enviros on the road i guess

      So storage at Tuas to collect dust and algae again?

  • A22 fan's Avatar
    40 posts since Jul '17
    • @carbikebus. They will be send to wash n cleaning the interior before they will be deployed. Just like when tts had taken over the bsep e500s from smrt. Dont worry bro.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,506 posts since Nov '03
  • A22 fan's Avatar
    40 posts since Jul '17
  • SMB145B's Avatar
    2,198 posts since Dec '12
    • Originally posted by A22 fan:

      @Carbikebus..

      As expected..all the great buses in one place...SMRT.

      Well, WLBP kope all the E500s and KJDEP swallowed the whole lot of A95s. AMDEP will be sealed with O405Gs and Wrights.

  • TIB987K's Avatar
    1,760 posts since Oct '12
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      All 15 Enviro500 @ Woodlands Bus Park,No prize for guessing which operator kapo

      Yup, saw them near the entrance/exit ...

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,506 posts since Nov '03
  • A22 fan's Avatar
    40 posts since Jul '17
    •  Even if there will be future orders of e500 then the facelift version wil be reproduced. HK bus operators are again on massive purchase of this model.

  • iveco's Avatar
    16,978 posts since Mar '04
    • Originally posted by A22 fan:

       Even if there will be future orders of e500 then the facelift version wil be reproduced. HK bus operators are again on massive purchase of this model.

      Did you mean the E500 Mk IVs?

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