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  • lemon1974's Avatar
    9,591 posts since Dec '04
    • bukit panjang MP is really working so hard to get so many bus services

      and most of them are express service using expressway charging NORMAL bus fares...

    • Originally posted by Marvel68:

      Took 12e from Tampines to NBR just now... was literally the only pax onboard throughout the journey and buses in the opposite direction had only ~10 pax on board. BC would remind everyone that just boarded that its express service and not the regular 12 and all immediately alighted...

      they should adjust the operating hours from city to HDB... no need those 730am to 10am trip back to CLE/Pasir Ris... even normal sv12 only got few paxes during 8am to 10am at lavender mrt toward pasir ris.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,548 posts since Nov '03
  • SBS2792K's Avatar
    226 posts since Jun '17
    • Originally posted by lemon1974:

      bukit panjang MP is really working so hard to get so many bus services

      and most of them are express service using expressway charging NORMAL bus fares...

      likewise for 974, MP lobbying for it to serve Senja

  • array88's Avatar
    1,493 posts since May '14
    • Originally posted by lemon1974:

      bukit panjang MP is really working so hard to get so many bus services

      and most of them are express service using expressway charging NORMAL bus fares...

      Don't think so...

      190, 700, 960, 966 etc have been there for decades, and were introduced at the time when BPJ didn't have MRT. 

      972 was the result of 190 saga that blew up on social media.

      971E is a peak-hour express service like 850E so doesn't count.

      979 does use KJE but only to connect to Yew Tee.

  • iveco's Avatar
    17,269 posts since Mar '04
    • Originally posted by array88:

      Don't think so...

      190, 700, 960, 966 etc have been there for decades, and were introduced at the time when BPJ didn't have MRT. 

      972 was the result of 190 saga that blew up on social media.

      971E is a peak-hour express service like 850E so doesn't count.

      979 does use KJE but only to connect to Yew Tee.

      190 has been there the longest. It was introduced by SBS. 

      Also note that 187 uses the former 951 sector between WDL and BPJ. Back in the day, the latter provided a vital express link between the two suburbs via BKE. 

  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,658 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by array88:

      Don't think so...

      190, 700, 960, 966 etc have been there for decades, and were introduced at the time when BPJ didn't have MRT. 

      972 was the result of 190 saga that blew up on social media.

      971E is a peak-hour express service like 850E so doesn't count.

      979 does use KJE but only to connect to Yew Tee.

      The only other new service that BPJ got is 973 that is quite useless and duplicative. 

  • SinkTel's Avatar
    2,702 posts since Oct '08
    • Originally posted by lemon1974:

      they should adjust the operating hours from city to HDB... no need those 730am to 10am trip back to CLE/Pasir Ris... even normal sv12 only got few paxes during 8am to 10am at lavender mrt toward pasir ris.

      Tried 12e on 2 occasions and although the BC reminded everyone that’s its 12e before they tap their card, still some passengers especially elderly mistook it for 12 and were puzzled why the bus enter ECP. Maybe can consider renumbering.

      Edited by SinkTel 01 Feb `18, 10:14PM
  • TPS Timothy Mok's Avatar
    1,251 posts since Aug '07
    • Originally posted by SinkTel:

      Tried 12e on 2 occasions and although the BC reminded everyone that’s its 12e before they tap their card, still some passengers especially elderly still mistook it for 12 and were puzzled why the bus enter ECP. Maybe can consider renumbering.

      12e only go to a place that is of cheapest, and affordable. Those rich man estate are excluded. Bedok South, Simei, Tampines, Pasir Ris for example.

      Different as 147e.

  • Marvel68's Avatar
    324 posts since Oct '14
    • Originally posted by SinkTel:

      Tried 12e on 2 occasions and although the BC reminded everyone that’s its 12e before they tap their card, still some passengers especially elderly still mistook it for 12 and were puzzled why the bus enter ECP. Maybe can consider renumbering.

      I agree.. especially the old folks who usually board 12/147 at Chinatown face difficulties in differentiating the 'e' variants and BCs have a hard time explaining to people to not tap their cards as it charges express fare at every stop. Previously suggested merging 12e/147e as a single express service. Problem is whether it should be operated by SBST or GA...

  • iveco's Avatar
    17,269 posts since Mar '04
    • Originally posted by Marvel68:

      I agree.. especially the old folks who usually board 12/147 at Chinatown face difficulties in differentiating the 'e' variants and BCs have a hard time explaining to people to not tap their cards as it charges express fare at every stop. Previously suggested merging 12e/147e as a single express service. Problem is whether it should be operated by SBST or GA...

      Joint control lagi best.

  • JKYY's Avatar
    694 posts since Oct '17
    • Originally posted by iveco:

      Joint control lagi best.

      1st service to have dual operators :)

  • Vampire77lim's Avatar
    131 posts since Nov '16
    • Look like the bus route 44 and 68 will be take by go ahead  

      152 and 164 will be take by SMRT 

      don’t know is that true 

  • array88's Avatar
    1,493 posts since May '14
    • Originally posted by Vampire77lim:

      Look like the bus route 44 and 68 will be take by go ahead  

      152 and 164 will be take by SMRT 

      don’t know is that true 

      The service numbers are totally messed up nowadays.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,548 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by Vampire77lim:

      Look like the bus route 44 and 68 will be take by go ahead  

      152 and 164 will be take by SMRT 

      don’t know is that true 

      44 go where?Punggol?

      152 from where?Compassvale?164?Woodlands?

  • Wee.eddie's Avatar
    10 posts since Nov '17
    • Those "e" buses have to follow DDU timing strictly. So sometimes normal buses is faster than the "e" buses

  • CZT's Avatar
    573 posts since Jun '16
    • Originally posted by Marvel68:

      I agree.. especially the old folks who usually board 12/147 at Chinatown face difficulties in differentiating the 'e' variants and BCs have a hard time explaining to people to not tap their cards as it charges express fare at every stop. Previously suggested merging 12e/147e as a single express service. Problem is whether it should be operated by SBST or GA...

      Just combine these 2 into one service lah, since they have similar catchment area in the Chinatown area. Haha but the route will be super long hoho, LTA dun like

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,548 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by SBS2792K:

      likewise for 974, MP lobbying for it to serve Senja

      If every estates start to complaim to MP and LTA LL then show how the market is spoilt..Will end up introduce redundant service,More jams at Interchanges and terminals..

  • iveco's Avatar
    17,269 posts since Mar '04
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      If every estates start to complaim to MP and LTA LL then show how the market is spoilt..Will end up introduce redundant service,More jams at Interchanges and terminals..

      Just like Route 324 which serves opposition territory?

  • phillipC's Avatar
    1,025 posts since Feb '05
    • Originally posted by SBS2792K:

      likewise for 974, MP lobbying for it to serve Senja

      The problem of buses servicing Senja is duplicate heavily Sv 920 and Sv 972.No doubt more BTO flats are coming up in Senja area.. Probably another feeder route. Unless the slip road to KJE is made Bi directional in a few more years to come

      Edited by phillipC 12 Feb `18, 10:50PM
  • lemon1974's Avatar
    9,591 posts since Dec '04
    • poor ridership for 12e during am peak.

      3 buses that reach bugis junction from pasir ris aroun 820am -900am have around 10-15 paxes each...i think they can use SD for the time being unless demand pick up...

      Edited by lemon1974 13 Feb `18, 10:54AM
  • autumncs's Avatar
    448 posts since Oct '06
  • TIB987K's Avatar
    2,254 posts since Oct '12
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,548 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by lemon1974:

      poor ridership for 12e during am peak.

      3 buses that reach bugis junction from pasir ris aroun 820am -900am have around 10-15 paxes each...i think they can use SD for the time being unless demand pick up...

      LTA gan cheong mah,Everything need full DD

  • JKYY's Avatar
    694 posts since Oct '17
    • Originally posted by TIB987K:

      [Unofficial]

      Cr to: Land Transport Guru

      Apparently LTG says confirm launch on 25 February already. 

      Edited by JKYY 18 Feb `18, 9:25PM
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