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  • SBS8676Z's Avatar
    1,815 posts since Oct '11
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Hgdep-Tridents

      Amdep-Brbp-Bndep:VSOs

      SMRT-O405Gs

      Got excess then can start lease

      Tridents and B1 0405G are the top priority.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,590 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by SBS8676Z:

      Tridents and B1 0405G are the top priority.

      Yeah man...But the VSO interior is also in bad shape..

      Hoping LTA will also buy B8L with Gemilang bodywork and E500 with facelift body like the three door design.

  • SMB128B's Avatar
    5,067 posts since May '11
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Yeah man...But the VSO interior is also in bad shape..

      Hoping LTA will also buy B8L with Gemilang bodywork and E500 with facelift body like the three door design.

      Nah, just the A95 will do. It's more than enough as a decent bus and I don't mind having more of just that 

  • sgbuses's Avatar
    2,406 posts since Nov '05
    • Originally posted by SMB128B:

      Nah, just the A95 will do. It's more than enough as a decent bus and I don't mind having more of just that 

      Make sure you still stand by your statement come 2025.

    • Originally posted by Formususeonly:

      That means STK has received new Tender to make E6 A95 alone OR the tender is with a another company  Eg. MAN A95 & B8L or MAN A95 & enviro 500 E6 or MAN A95 alone only. 

      There will only be one supplier.

  • SMB128B's Avatar
    5,067 posts since May '11
    • Originally posted by sgbuses:

      Make sure you still stand by your statement come 2025.

      Mark my words 

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,590 posts since Nov '03
    • I am worried if MAN is the only main fleet somebody will start complaining why only MAN ah...

  • CB2883J's Avatar
    394 posts since Sep '15
    • E6/B4 MAN A95 has slightly lower front EDS, and no plate frames. Registration continues after B3 A95s in SG59xx series

  • SMB145B's Avatar
    2,276 posts since Dec '12
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      I am worried if MAN is the only main fleet somebody will start complaining why only MAN ah...

      wah kao.

      i already think the B9s + ADL + MANs already very plain

       

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,590 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by SMB145B:

      wah kao.

      i already think the B9s + ADL + MANs already very plain

       

      Ask the lobbyist as what Mr sgbuses always say

  • CB2883J's Avatar
    394 posts since Sep '15
    • EDS of the Euro 6 units is not Mobitec I think. Need to adjust shutter speed if not comes out as lines. Probably LAWO

  • sgbuses's Avatar
    2,406 posts since Nov '05
    • At this rate, trying to track each minor or major design change by batch alone simply makes no sense anymore. The nomenclature has to evolve with MAN/GML/STK too:

      SD configuration:

      • SMB138Y - MAN Lion's City SD (Euro V), MCV eVolution > rebodied to Gemilang Mark I
      • All SMB plated, SG1700U to SG1748H - MAN Lion's City SD (Euro V), Gemilang Mark I
      • SG4002G - MAN Lion's City SD (Euro V, 3 doors), Gemilang Mark II
      • SG1751Y onwards - MAN Lion's City SD (Euro VI), Gemilang Mark III

      DD configuration:

      • SMB5888H - MAN Lion's City DD (Euro V), Gemilang Prototype
      • All SMB plated (except SMB5888H), SG5740C to SG5799J - MAN Lion's City DD (Euro V), Gemilang Mark I
      • SG5999Z - MAN Lion's City DD L (Euro V, 3 doors), Gemilang Mark II
      • SG5800M to SG5829G - MAN Lion's City DD (Euro V), Gemilang Mark II
      • SG5830B to SG5920A - MAN Lion's City DD (Euro V), Gemilang Mark III
      • SG2017C - MAN Lion's City DD (Euro VI), Gemilang Mark III
      • SG5921A onwards - MAN Lion's City DD (Euro VI), Gemilang Mark IV

      Articulated bus configuration:

      • SMB388S, SMB80XX - MAN Lion's City GL, Gemilang Mark I

      Then divide each Mark type by batches separately.

      The number increases by one for each Windows 10 style update to their bodywork (Gemilang Mark V, Gemilang Mark VI, ...Gemilang Mark IX, Gemilang Mark X, etc.). Windows 10 style updates should be expected as the norm, not the exception. Hence we need to allow this nomenclature to scale until at least 2025.

      There is only that many times you can call the design a facelift. You can say the same for ADL Enviro500 MMC too (their "facelift MMC" would similarly be Enviro500 MMC Mk II).

      Yes, the Lion's City brand is applied retrospectively. But the marketing material and technical evidence indicates this is the manufacturer/distributor's intention and this should keep the certain bus lobbyists very happy for decades to come. And there appears to be no strict adherance to the traditional European requirements as well when it comes to naming a Lion's City product, at least if it's not integral anyway.

      As for overseas units (such as Hong Kong and Sydney), you can call them MAN Lion's City if you like. Apply duck test (if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, it's a duck). The overseas distributors doesn't seem to mind anyway.

      At this point it is a matter of when, not if, new articulated buses from MAN and Gemilang shows up in the future. We can then call them MAN Lion's City GL (Euro VI), Gemilang Mark II and so on.

  • SMB1333T's Avatar
    534 posts since Jun '13
  • AntiDennisLance's Avatar
    1,175 posts since Jul '03
    • Originally posted by SMB1333T:

      Registered on 22 May 18 (SBST): 

      SG5921Y
      SG5922U
      SG5923S
      SG5924P
      SG5925L
      SG5926J

      Ehh I thought there are only 122 units of LTA A95 from SG5800 to SG5920 + SG2017? This newest batch is the E6 ones after the 122?

  • TPS Timothy Mok's Avatar
    1,254 posts since Aug '07
    • Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:

      Ehh I thought there are only 122 units of LTA A95 from SG5800 to SG5920 + SG2017? This newest batch is the E6 ones after the 122?

      Now is for 851E. But no replacements yet. Dennis Tridents and B10TLs are the next on the list, plus it could be 2 - 5 more years.

  • SMB1333T's Avatar
    534 posts since Jun '13
    • Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:

      Ehh I thought there are only 122 units of LTA A95 from SG5800 to SG5920 + SG2017? This newest batch is the E6 ones after the 122?

      Yes...

  • Marvel68's Avatar
    327 posts since Oct '14
    • I guess there's no prize for guessing which service all 6 units will most likely go to..

  • JonathanLeongCK's Avatar
    21 posts since Jan '18
    • I am hoping that TTS will get their A95 soon.

       

      On a side note, why not deploy 5916 and 5917 for 851e as well?

  • lemon1974's Avatar
    9,598 posts since Dec '04
    • Originally posted by JonathanLeongCK:

      I am hoping that TTS will get their A95 soon.

       

      On a side note, why not deploy 5916 and 5917 for 851e as well?

      Most likely they will use cos 6 buses not enough. Should be at least 8 buses during peak.  Hopefully some of these A95 go into 851 instead. 

  • ND323F's Avatar
    82 posts since Mar '17
    • Originally posted by lemon1974:

      Most likely they will use cos 6 buses not enough. Should be at least 8 buses during peak.  Hopefully some of these A95 go into 851 instead. 


      All the 6 E6 A95 are to be used for 851e

  • lemon1974's Avatar
    9,598 posts since Dec '04
    • Originally posted by ND323F:


      All the 6 E6 A95 are to be used for 851e

      LTA is wasting public funds..... cant they even learn from the lesson from 12e/147e?

  • ND323F's Avatar
    82 posts since Mar '17
    • Originally posted by lemon1974:

      LTA is wasting public funds..... cant they even learn from the lesson from 12e/147e?

      I will not associate intelligence with govt.

  • sgbuses's Avatar
    2,406 posts since Nov '05
    • Originally posted by ND323F:

      I will not associate intelligence with govt.

      They are supposed to double-up as an alternative to NSWEL lines.

      But you may be right that NCF is going to be a serious issue come the next fare review.

  • TPS Timothy Mok's Avatar
    1,254 posts since Aug '07
    • Originally posted by sgbuses:

      They are supposed to double-up as an alternative to NSWEL lines.

      But you may be right that NCF is going to be a serious issue come the next fare review.

      851e is both the merger of old 850 (Yishun - Bukit Merah) & 520 (Yishun - New Bridge Road).

      147e is both the merger of old CT28 (Clementi - Chinatown) & 148 (Clementi - Lorong 1 Geylang). Probably it will be extended, if not it will duplicate 147 entirely even more.

      12e is the merger of old 518 (Bedok - Marina Centre/MBS) & 8 (Bedok - Shenton Way).

      Edited by TPS Timothy Mok 23 May `18, 12:51PM
  • SBS8676Z's Avatar
    1,815 posts since Oct '11
    • Originally posted by ND323F:


      All the 6 E6 A95 are to be used for 851e

      I will rather these 6 DDs all go to go HGDEP to replace the Tridents down there. SEDEP got plenty of B9TLs and I dun think 851e need DDs yet.

      Edited by SBS8676Z 23 May `18, 1:50PM
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