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  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,765 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by A22 fan:

      Only left GA without any MAN...but i suppose LTA will enforce them to use one day. Lets start from A22 to my guess. At least TT and SBS got one A95 while the latter might get more..especially seletar package commerce date getting near plus all the 20 Dennis Tridents are retire bound next year.

      Hope so

  • sgbuses's Avatar
    2,345 posts since Nov '05
    • Originally posted by gekpohboy:

      How hard is it to just lift the cover and flip it down, and then put it back up again after the process is completed?

      What is the whole point of having an auto ramp if the BC has to come out of his cabin anyway?

  • gekpohboy's Avatar
    2,180 posts since Mar '16
    • Originally posted by sgbuses:

      What is the whole point of having an auto ramp if the BC has to come out of his cabin anyway?

      Probably for the manufacturer to mark up the price. I don't know, just guessing.

      From the YouTube videos, it looks like the button is at the ceiling. If they can adjust the position to a level that is reachable to the wheelchair users, the wheelchair users would be able to operate the ramp themselves, without any help from the bus driver.

      Also, why is it that the closing is not smooth? From the YouTube videos, I see that the door has to open and close again as the ramp retreats to the bus.

      Edited by gekpohboy 10 Sep `17, 5:54PM
    • On YouTube, search for “SBS Transit MAN”, and sort by upload date. You will instantly get about six videos on the SBS Transit MAN double-decker bus.

      Edited by gekpohboy 10 Sep `17, 6:12PM
  • sgbuses's Avatar
    2,345 posts since Nov '05
    • Originally posted by gekpohboy:

      Probably for the manufacturer to mark up the price. I don't know, just guessing.

      From the YouTube videos, it looks like the button is at the ceiling. If they can adjust the position to a level that is reachable to the wheelchair users, the wheelchair users would be able to operate the ramp themselves, without any help from the bus driver.

      Also, why is it that the closing is not smooth? From the YouTube videos, I see that the door has to open and close again as the ramp retreats to the bus.

      Bode's design didn't require the doors to move one bit. And that was more than 15 years ago, in Perth.

      This project is not being taken seriously. Either the manufacturer thinks that the massive order is already in the bag, or they do not think an order will come and so it is not worth the effort to do more.

  • gekpohboy's Avatar
    2,180 posts since Mar '16
    • Wait. Before we dwell into this, we have to understand that this feature was not in the design when the bus was first purchased. That's why we need to customise the auto ramp feature on our own.

      As to why the operations is not smooth, it's because the bus was not designed to have the auto ramp, and the auto ramp is later then add in one, that's why now got this problem.

      Because the configuration of the bus with ramp and without ramp is different, and the ramp is later then ownself add in one, that's why the ramp cannot open and close smoothly without having the door open and close during the process.

      I believe it's just for this bus. Newer buses that come with auto ramp may not have this problem, because the auto ramp would be built into the bus; no need for customisation.

      Edited by gekpohboy 10 Sep `17, 9:40PM
  • sgbuses's Avatar
    2,345 posts since Nov '05
    • Originally posted by gekpohboy:

      Wait. Before we dwell into this, we have to understand that this feature was not in the design when the bus was first purchased. That's why we need to customise the auto ramp feature on our own.

      As for why the operations is not smooth, it's because the bus was not designed to have the auto ramp, and the auto ramp is later then add in one, that's why now got this problem.

      I believe it's just for this bus. Newer buses that come with auto ramp may not have this problem, because the auto ramp would be built into the design; no need for customisation.

      What do you mean by customize? These should have been standard features.

      The automatic ramp is integrated into the door design, because they work together with the operation of the ramp switch. I am fine with it slightly open if the need be, but the door should not slam shut during deployment - waiting passengers will not feel comfortable, and for kids it is an accident waiting to happen.

      Edited by sgbuses 10 Sep `17, 6:59PM
  • gekpohboy's Avatar
    2,180 posts since Mar '16
    • Bus at first don’t have auto ramp. Auto ramp is later then add in one. That’s what I meant by customise.

  • sgbuses's Avatar
    2,345 posts since Nov '05
    • Originally posted by gekpohboy:

      Bus at first don’t have auto ramp. Auto ramp is later then add in one. That’s what I meant by customise.

      In that case, someone is trying to peddle their wares...and LTA obviously has no clue why they would want an automatic ramp in the first place.

      Whatever happened to intuitive design?!

      At this rate, we are going to have several SG5999Zs and SG4002Gs down the road. And each bus is going to have directional stickers every 1m apart as what you already find on SG5999Z, and passengers will continue to ignore them.

  • gekpohboy's Avatar
    2,180 posts since Mar '16
  • sgbuses's Avatar
    2,345 posts since Nov '05
    • Originally posted by gekpohboy:

      I believe the three door bus was built with auto ramp.

      Both of them are manual wheelchair ramps.

  • lemon1974's Avatar
    9,243 posts since Dec '04
  • A22 fan's Avatar
    96 posts since Jul '17
    • SG5835M >> 76

       

      Might even cameo 70,130 or 133..and also dont write off non seletar (but still under Amkdep) services like 13,22,25,72 and so on.

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    9,073 posts since Apr '11
  • A22 fan's Avatar
    96 posts since Jul '17
  • iveco's Avatar
    17,027 posts since Mar '04
    • Originally posted by A22 fan:

      SG5835M >> 76

       

      Might even cameo 70,130 or 133..and also dont write off non seletar (but still under Amkdep) services like 13,22,25,72 and so on.

      Wish it could cameo on 166.

  • SBS2792K's Avatar
    81 posts since Jun '17
    • Originally posted by A22 fan:

      SG5835M >> 76

       

      Might even cameo 70,130 or 133..and also dont write off non seletar (but still under Amkdep) services like 13,22,25,72 and so on.

      for now limited to 76

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    1,884 posts since Sep '14
  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    9,073 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by SMB315C:

      SG5853K
      Registered as of today >> SBS Transit


      Jump so far sia

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    1,039 posts since Mar '16
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,765 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by SMB315C:

      SG5853K
      Registered as of today >> SBS Transit

      Now at Hgdep

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