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  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,524 posts since May '12
    • svc 67 left with only one bendy bus. Though it is good in terms of reducing congestion in Little India, CCK and Tampines Interchange, it still feels weird; that weird nostalgic feeling. 

  • SMB315C's Avatar
    2,011 posts since Sep '14
    • TIB1095C TIB1100X TIB1101T
      Previously lifespan ending 20 Dec 2017 >> Lifespan extended to 20 Dec 2018

      TIB1103M TIB1104K TIB1105H TIB1106E TIB1111P
      Previously lifespan ending 21 Dec 2017 >> Lifespan extended to 21 Dec 2018

      All 8 units extended as per normal, no lay-up status reflected..

      Edited by SMB315C 20 Dec `17, 10:06PM
  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,524 posts since May '12
  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    9,161 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      How many bendy units left to be used on services for 2018? 


      more than 100 definitely. 1148J to 1247G is already 100. Those Volgrens is 20. Mandy is 40. Habits wich maybe extended ???

  • SMB315C's Avatar
    2,011 posts since Sep '14
    • Originally posted by TIB 585L:


      more than 100 definitely. 1148J to 1247G is already 100. Those Volgrens is 20. Mandy is 40. Habits wich maybe extended ???

      A24 left with 37 only.. 8003A 8004Y 8008L to SBST..

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    9,161 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by SMB315C:

      A24 left with 37 only.. 8003A 8004Y 8008L to SBST..


      then 8001 8002 8007 8009 8010 and the 804 ones?

  • A22 fan's Avatar
    217 posts since Jul '17
    • @TIB585L: These buses u mentioned will be transferred to SBSt as well probably at a later date as Seletar package drawing nearer.

  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,524 posts since May '12
    • Can someone monitor fleet for 302? While I was at YT, saw a huge number of rigids on 302, while 979 had 2-3 rigids, rest all DDs

      I think 302 was plying on Friday with almost 50% rigids, while 979 was plying with 20-30% rigids.

      Given 979 covers most of 302 route from Limbang to CCK Crescent, this is the way to compensate for loss of bendies on 302?? 

       

    • Future of bendies for CGA services. Allocation of 40 bendies for CGA services

      24 - 05 (this can be monitored. 24's route is common to many other services until it hits Bedok - CGA section)

      27 - 05 (the need for HC buses has reduced with launch of 118 and increasing capacity on other services bound to Tampines)

      34 - 05 (still has v high loading inspite of 118 as it acts as intratown within Tampines estate)

      36 - 05 (heavy loading from Marine Parade to Suntec)

      53 - 10 (heavy loading from Serangoon to HG 1 and PSR to CGA)

      110 - 00 (most of the loading is from TPE Punggol to CGA, to alleviate loading on 858)

      858 - 10 (heavy loading, deserves more bendy allocation than currently has)

      ** The shuffling of bendies between these services could change based on loading changes. For instance, if 127 is extended to Compassvale, this could further eat into some of 27's loading and hence, 27 may not need the bendies. Likewise for 36 if they introduce a service from Siglap to city, no bendies required because loading between CGA and Marine Parade is low.

  • TPS Timothy Mok's Avatar
    1,188 posts since Aug '07
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      Future of bendies for CGA services. Allocation of 40 bendies for CGA services

      24 - 05 (this can be monitored. 24's route is common to many other services until it hits Bedok - CGA section)

      27 - 05 (the need for HC buses has reduced with launch of 118 and increasing capacity on other services bound to Tampines)

      34 - 05 (still has v high loading inspite of 118 as it acts as intratown within Tampines estate)

      36 - 05 (heavy loading from Marine Parade to Suntec)

      53 - 10 (heavy loading from Serangoon to HG 1 and PSR to CGA)

      110 - 00 (most of the loading is from TPE Punggol to CGA, to alleviate loading on 858)

      858 - 10 (heavy loading, deserves more bendy allocation than currently has)

      ** The shuffling of bendies between these services could change based on loading changes. For instance, if 127 is extended to Compassvale, this could further eat into some of 27's loading and hence, 27 may not need the bendies. Likewise for 36 if they introduce a service from Siglap to city, no bendies required because loading between CGA and Marine Parade is low.

      Future of bendies -

      16 - 4 bendies

      24 - 2 bendies

      57 - 1 bendy

      145 - 3 bendies

      160 / 170 - need at least 20 bendies

      195 - 6 bendies

  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,524 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by TPS Timothy Mok:

      Future of bendies -

      16 - 4 bendies

      24 - 2 bendies

      57 - 1 bendy

      145 - 3 bendies

      160 / 170 - need at least 20 bendies

      195 - 6 bendies

      16 can use DDs. 145 is already using DDs. If bendies were okay for JB, 950 would have got them long back.... 

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    9,161 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      16 can use DDs. 145 is already using DDs. If bendies were okay for JB, 950 would have got them long back.... 


      if 16 can use DDs. if would have use DDs 20 yrs ago same with 33

  • iveco's Avatar
    17,123 posts since Mar '04
    • Originally posted by TIB 585L:


      if 16 can use DDs. if would have use DDs 20 yrs ago same with 33

      16 couldn't have DDs back in the day due to height restrictions at Merdeka bridge.

  • array88's Avatar
    1,450 posts since May '14
    • Originally posted by iveco:

      16 couldn't have DDs back in the day due to height restrictions at Merdeka bridge.

      How about Joo Chiat Rd?

    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      Future of bendies for CGA services. Allocation of 40 bendies for CGA services

      24 - 05 (this can be monitored. 24's route is common to many other services until it hits Bedok - CGA section)

      27 - 05 (the need for HC buses has reduced with launch of 118 and increasing capacity on other services bound to Tampines)

      34 - 05 (still has v high loading inspite of 118 as it acts as intratown within Tampines estate)

      36 - 05 (heavy loading from Marine Parade to Suntec)

      53 - 10 (heavy loading from Serangoon to HG 1 and PSR to CGA)

      110 - 00 (most of the loading is from TPE Punggol to CGA, to alleviate loading on 858)

      858 - 10 (heavy loading, deserves more bendy allocation than currently has)

      ** The shuffling of bendies between these services could change based on loading changes. For instance, if 127 is extended to Compassvale, this could further eat into some of 27's loading and hence, 27 may not need the bendies. Likewise for 36 if they introduce a service from Siglap to city, no bendies required because loading between CGA and Marine Parade is low.

      I actually think 27's Tampines-CGA loading is bound to increase as Tampines North develops and some airport employees might move to flats near Ave 9/10. So it doesn't harm to put a few more bendies on the full route I guess?

      Edited by array88 15 Jan `18, 2:39PM
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    20,574 posts since Nov '03
    • If all Airport svc use bendy as high capacity buses,The boarding berth has to relocated on far left instead.Imagine peak hours with all those lorries and Vans unloading and loading.

  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,524 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by array88:

      I actually think 27's Tampines-CGA loading is bound to increase as Tampines North develops and some airport employees might move to flats near Ave 9/10. So it doesn't harm to put a few more bendies on the full route I guess?

      Yup, possible. Hence, they will need to reallocate the bendies for the more needing services as we have only 40 WAB bendies unless they order more. 

    • Originally posted by array88:

      How about Joo Chiat Rd?

      I have travelled Joo Chiat many times, I don't see an issue. 16 is doing fine with SDs. It doesn't need DDs.

      Bedok - Marine Terrace (20-30 pax loading, also have 196)

      Marine Terrace - Joo Chiat (30-40 pax)

      Joo Chiat - Dakota (this is where loading reaches around 70 pax, also have svc 33 that happens to be svc 33 high loading sector as well)

      Dakota - Orchard (between 40-50 pax)

      Orchard - Tiong Bahru (between 30-50 pax)

      Tiong Bahru - Bukit Merah (30-50 pax)

      So apart from 2 stops along Dunman road, where there might be difficulty to board svc 16, the route currently is strictly SD loading and hence DDs don't really make sense. But can always give 2-3 DDs to start with and see!!

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    20,574 posts since Nov '03
    • I got a feeling that there will be small number of bendies bought for selected service. .Bidadri Int floor plan already got 3 bendy lots.

  • SG5064X's Avatar
    483 posts since Dec '16
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      Can someone monitor fleet for 302? While I was at YT, saw a huge number of rigids on 302, while 979 had 2-3 rigids, rest all DDs

      I think 302 was plying on Friday with almost 50% rigids, while 979 was plying with 20-30% rigids.

      Given 979 covers most of 302 route from Limbang to CCK Crescent, this is the way to compensate for loss of bendies on 302?? 

       

      Yep, have been seeing lots of A22 spamming on 302 lately. This week 302 BD shld be 8012Z 8019E 8020A 8023S 8028D & 1237K.The rest I'm not sure.

    • Does 300 get downsize since 983 had gotten DD upsize recently?

  • wsy1234's Avatar
    1,633 posts since Aug '07
  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,524 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by SG5064X:

      Does 300 get downsize since 983 had gotten DD upsize recently?

      300 has a lot of SDs spamming also. 983 got upsize because the loading towards BPJ has increased considerably especially in AM. DDs carry 90+ pax between 0745 and 0815am and SDs are packed to door, unless they are back to back.

      On the contrary loading between CCK and CCK Ave 4/5 has dropped somewhat. DTL effect. 

  • iveco's Avatar
    17,123 posts since Mar '04
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      I have travelled Joo Chiat many times, I don't see an issue. 16 is doing fine with SDs. It doesn't need DDs.

      Bedok - Marine Terrace (20-30 pax loading, also have 196)

      Marine Terrace - Joo Chiat (30-40 pax)

      Joo Chiat - Dakota (this is where loading reaches around 70 pax, also have svc 33 that happens to be svc 33 high loading sector as well)

      Dakota - Orchard (between 40-50 pax)

      Orchard - Tiong Bahru (between 30-50 pax)

      Tiong Bahru - Bukit Merah (30-50 pax)

      So apart from 2 stops along Dunman road, where there might be difficulty to board svc 16, the route currently is strictly SD loading and hence DDs don't really make sense. But can always give 2-3 DDs to start with and see!!

      16 and 33 cover different parts of Joo Chiat. 

  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,524 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by iveco:

      16 and 33 cover different parts of Joo Chiat. 

      the loading is mainly from Dunman road and not Joo Chiat for svc 16. There is a huge crop of condos there and people take 16/33 from there to Dakota MRT. Of course you have some 30 odd pax on the bus before it hits Dunman, making Dunman road the highest loading point for svc 16 and also svc 33. 

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