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  • SG5064X's Avatar
    493 posts since Dec '16
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      300 has a lot of SDs spamming also. 983 got upsize because the loading towards BPJ has increased considerably especially in AM. DDs carry 90+ pax between 0745 and 0815am and SDs are packed to door, unless they are back to back.

      On the contrary loading between CCK and CCK Ave 4/5 has dropped somewhat. DTL effect. 

      300 fleet getting confusing these days.On some days,the BD BC drive A22 as well.

  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,584 posts since May '12
    • 857 getting quite few bendy cameos even on weekdays. 800/804/806/807 almost all bendies converted to DDs except some random bendies. 811/812 still have mostly bendies and not DDs.

  • AntiDennisLance's Avatar
    1,126 posts since Jul '03
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      857 getting quite few bendy cameos even on weekdays. 800/804/806/807 almost all bendies converted to DDs except some random bendies. 811/812 still have mostly bendies and not DDs.

      812 is mostly SD now.

  • A22 fan's Avatar
    222 posts since Jul '17
  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,584 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:

      812 is mostly SD now.

      Loading on 812 has dropped a lot. East loop loading has been somewhat taken away by 805 and west loop loading has been taken by 807. Full SD fleet is okay for 812 now.

  • AntiDennisLance's Avatar
    1,126 posts since Jul '03
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      Loading on 812 has dropped a lot. East loop loading has been somewhat taken away by 805 and west loop loading has been taken by 807. Full SD fleet is okay for 812 now.

      Yes thats what I figured as well.  They can actually divert a service like 39 or 85 or 117 to Yishun St 61 and withdraw 812.

  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,584 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:

      Yes thats what I figured as well.  They can actually divert a service like 39 or 85 or 117 to Yishun St 61 and withdraw 812.

      My suggestion would be:

      1) Extend 859 to loop at Yishun st 61 via Yishun Central (no loss of route for 812 in east loop). 

      2) For west loop, 860 can be routed as follows.

      Sembawang Interchange >> Sembawang Dr >> Sembawang Road >> Yishun Ave 5 >> Yishun Ring Road >> Yishun Ave 2 >> Yishun Central >> Yishun Ave 9 and continues current route... 

      Or if this is complicated, simply convert 812 to feeder 802.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    20,789 posts since Nov '03
  • Sbs6750E's Avatar
    1,968 posts since May '15
    • I think 812 can reduce freq to 7-9 min. Now freq is 2-5 min during peak hrs. Bus hardly gets half-filled even during sch hrs for west loop.

  • SMB42P's Avatar
    5,482 posts since Jan '12
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      300 has a lot of SDs spamming also. 983 got upsize because the loading towards BPJ has increased considerably especially in AM. DDs carry 90+ pax between 0745 and 0815am and SDs are packed to door, unless they are back to back.

      On the contrary loading between CCK and CCK Ave 4/5 has dropped somewhat. DTL effect. 

      300 PM from 9pm to 10pm: 4 SDs 4 BDs, 3 NWAB, 5 WAB

      For 983, a DD BC drove SMB1650C today...

      Edited by SMB42P 17 Jan `18, 11:26PM
  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,584 posts since May '12
  • JKYY's Avatar
    298 posts since Oct '17
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      857 keeps getting a bendy almost every day... weird SMRT deployments... 

      Yup correct. There was a Hispano on 857 yesterday.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    20,789 posts since Nov '03
    • I got a strange feeling after the old bendies is retired,there will be another small number of bendies purchased by LTA.Maybe 30-40 units the most...especially for height restrictions service 

  • SG5064X's Avatar
    493 posts since Dec '16
    • Originally posted by SMB42P:

      300 PM from 9pm to 10pm: 4 SDs 4 BDs, 3 NWAB, 5 WAB

      For 983, a DD BC drove SMB1650C today...

      300 this week AP  bendies are 8019E 8022U 8023S & 8033M from my observation.Anyway is 1485M out of 300?

  • SMB42P's Avatar
    5,482 posts since Jan '12
    • Originally posted by SG5064X:

      300 this week AP  bendies are 8019E 8022U 8023S & 8033M from my observation.Anyway is 1485M out of 300?

      personally didnt spot it.. occasionally spotted it on 302.. but this week dun recall seeing it

  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,584 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by SG5064X:

      300 this week AP  bendies are 8019E 8022U 8023S & 8033M from my observation.Anyway is 1485M out of 300?

      300 now 60% rigid, 40% bendy fleet

      302 is coming close to 50% bendy and 50% rigid fleet

      979 is 90% DD and 10% SD

  • SG5064X's Avatar
    493 posts since Dec '16
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      300 now 60% rigid, 40% bendy fleet

      302 is coming close to 50% bendy and 50% rigid fleet

      979 is 90% DD and 10% SD

      From sgwiki:

      300: 7 A22 & 5 Bendy.

      However, how many S BD are there for 300? I feel that 300 have 6-7 bendy buses leh.

  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,584 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by SG5064X:

      From sgwiki:

      300: 7 A22 & 5 Bendy.

      However, how many S BD are there for 300? I feel that 300 have 6-7 bendy buses leh.

      I don't think that many bendy anymore... Some days 4 bendies, some days 5... this is what I observed when I was doing a project in CCK-BPJ area. Loading also has dropped for both 300 and 983 towards CCK (still high but not as high as it used to be). On contrary, 983 is going packed to door towards BPJ and that's where the DDs are getting v well utilized. 

  • SBS8676Z's Avatar
    1,779 posts since Oct '11
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      857 keeps getting a bendy almost every day... weird SMRT deployments... 

      Due to those Yishun feeders getting massive DD upgrades instead of the trunk services, all thanks to the stupid Seletar package coming up.

      Unlike WLDEP side that has a stand of not deploying DDs on feeders and intra-towns.

      Edited by SBS8676Z 26 Jan `18, 2:48PM
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    20,789 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by SBS8676Z:

      Due to those Yishun feeders getting massive DD upgrades instead of the trunk services, all thanks to the stupid Seletar package coming up.

      Unlike WLDEP side that has a stand of not deploying DDs on feeders and intra-towns.

      Sooner or later Wldep also have to use DD for their feeders,it's a matter of time unless LTA bought more Bendies for feeders.I don't mind long distance feeders/Intratowns using DDs...but not those short distance that usually pax board for less than 5 stops..

  • BusAnalayzer's Avatar
    10,584 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by SBS8676Z:

      Due to those Yishun feeders getting massive DD upgrades instead of the trunk services, all thanks to the stupid Seletar package coming up.

      Unlike WLDEP side that has a stand of not deploying DDs on feeders and intra-towns.

      IMO that's not a valid argument. For instance, 807 cannot survive without DDs, 806 needs the DDs for PM more than AM. 800/811 has very few DDs (1 or 2 on most days), 803/805/812 have none, 804 have a few.

      AMDEP needs to take in more DDs and kick out more rigids from its fleet. 

       

  • SBS8676Z's Avatar
    1,779 posts since Oct '11
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      IMO that's not a valid argument. For instance, 807 cannot survive without DDs, 806 needs the DDs for PM more than AM. 800/811 has very few DDs (1 or 2 on most days), 803/805/812 have none, 804 have a few.

      AMDEP needs to take in more DDs and kick out more rigids from its fleet. 

       

      800 804 806 had been using NWAB old bendies all those while, similar to Woodlands feeders as SMRT has a stand of not deploying DD on feeders for now.

      It is the upcoming Seletar package that Yishun feeders benefitted using new DDs while Woodlands side continue to use those old bendies. Ended up the old bendies from 800 804 806 are running around other services now (including 857). 811 812 still using bendies though.

      Edited by SBS8676Z 28 Jan `18, 10:56AM
  • TPS Timothy Mok's Avatar
    1,214 posts since Aug '07
    • Originally posted by SBS8676Z:

      800 804 806 had been using NWAB old bendies all those while, similar to Woodlands feeders as SMRT has a stand of not deploying DD on feeders for now.

      It is the upcoming Seletar package that Yishun feeders benefitted using new DDs while Woodlands side continue to use those old bendies. Ended up the old bendies from 800 804 806 are running around other services now (including 857). 811 812 still using bendies though.

      Having the lifespans extended for about 6 months until June 2018.

  • JKYY's Avatar
    298 posts since Oct '17
  • AntiDennisLance's Avatar
    1,126 posts since Jul '03
    • Originally posted by JKYY:

      Hispanos still on 171 lol

       

      Think got 3 today

      Thats because 171 route is not DD-able and there are not enough A24's to go around.

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