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  • ND323F's Avatar
    82 posts since Mar '17
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      B3 one chappalang also,Steering wheel got 2 design.Power Switch/start button also two type..

      The steering wheel and switch design is just a design change from MAN. All the new MAN Truck and Bus will have this standardised design. In fact, MAN Trucks changed to this design way much earlier.

       

      As for fog lights, it is meant for low visibility use like foggy/hazy or heavy rain situations. To be used together with main low beam. The idea of fog lights is to increase the vehicle's visibility to those in front and oncoming, yet does not blind them. In another words, there is no specific direction for fog lights, it is just a simple bulb for everyone to see. 

      Low beam, on the other hand, is directional and it is meant to illuminate the road directly in front of you, without blinding the front and oncoming vehicle. Which is why RHD and LHD low beam has a different beam pattern. Whilst the front and oncoming vehicles are able to see low beam when it is clear, during low visibility situations, low beam is actually inadequate.

       

      But yeah, it is useless in SG, there's no fog, there's no haze, there's no heavy rain. It is also illegal to install after market fog lights as it is impossible for a chance to meet low visibility situations.

      BTW, it is not a regulation under ECE to have front fog lamps, but it is a must to have rear fog lamps. 

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,590 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by ND323F:

      The steering wheel and switch design is just a design change from MAN. All the new MAN Truck and Bus will have this standardised design. In fact, MAN Trucks changed to this design way much earlier.

       

      As for fog lights, it is meant for low visibility use like foggy/hazy or heavy rain situations. To be used together with main low beam. The idea of fog lights is to increase the vehicle's visibility to those in front and oncoming, yet does not blind them. In another words, there is no specific direction for fog lights, it is just a simple bulb for everyone to see. 

      Low beam, on the other hand, is directional and it is meant to illuminate the road directly in front of you, without blinding the front and oncoming vehicle. Which is why RHD and LHD low beam has a different beam pattern. Whilst the front and oncoming vehicles are able to see low beam when it is clear, during low visibility situations, low beam is actually inadequate.

       

      But yeah, it is useless in SG, there's no fog, there's no haze, there's no heavy rain. It is also illegal to install after market fog lights as it is impossible for a chance to meet low visibility situations.

      BTW, it is not a regulation under ECE to have front fog lamps, but it is a must to have rear fog lamps. 

      And guess what,our dear car users love to install rear fog lamps and also change led bulbs to their front fog lamps hence LTA is so strict about this.But BMW is notoriously for their blindly headlamps 

  • ND323F's Avatar
    82 posts since Mar '17
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      And guess what,our dear car users love to install rear fog lamps and also change led bulbs to their front fog lamps hence LTA is so strict about this.But BMW is notoriously for their blindly headlamps 

      To solve this problem, LTA could just have adopted UNECE regulations. 

      Almost all European makes have front and rear fog lamps due to ECE regulations, and their lamps are compliant to the regulations (E mark), which is not a problem.

      The problem is aftermarket lamps that are not compliant to ECE regulations.

      I think you are referring to the day-time running lights. It is meant to be very bright so as to be visible in day-time. It will dim once low beam or park light is turned-on.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,590 posts since Nov '03
    • Daytime running lights is okay but not those aftermarket fog lamps that using super bright LED bulbs unless your vehicle come as standard.I install a small led light at the bumper of my Exora 1.6 turbo mpv so far no issue.I also install a small LED light at below the headlamp of my 600cc street motorcycle and using a aftermarket diamond shape headlamps with led strobe come with switch to on/off during inspection.

  • CB2883J's Avatar
    394 posts since Sep '15
    • Also note. From pics observed the EDS does not look like mobitec. The display appeared to show Out Of Service in a different font.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,590 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by CB2883J:

      Also note. From pics observed the EDS does not look like mobitec. The display appeared to show Out Of Service in a different font.

      Lecip?Smc Transit doors?😂😂

  • SMB128B's Avatar
    5,067 posts since May '11
  • CB2883J's Avatar
    394 posts since Sep '15
    • Originally posted by SMB128B:

      The doors are Masats.

      Where'd you know this from?

    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Lecip?Smc Transit doors?

      The dimensions look the same size as Mobitec, and it's entirely possible that it's just a Mobitec unit but with different default programming.

      Another observation is that the front Lion's City logo is black like SG2017C.

      Edited by CB2883J 07 May `18, 2:08PM
  • SMB128B's Avatar
    5,067 posts since May '11
    • Originally posted by CB2883J:

      Where'd you know this from?

      Observation from pictures.. the entrance door features the yellow curved handbars seen on current Masats doors in SG..

      SMC Transit doors used by SG feature the outdated straight ones and will most prob be pink in colour..

      Edited by SMB128B 07 May `18, 6:46PM
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,590 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by SMB128B:

      Observation from pictures.. the entrance door features the yellow curved handbars seen on current Masats doors in SG..

      SMC Transit doors used by SG feature the outdated straight ones and will most prob be pink in colour..

      Hopefully still retain SMRT spec like Masats doors.Volvo B8L really cut many cost.

  • SMB1368T's Avatar
    1,261 posts since Mar '16
    • Actually the doors with the horizontal straight bars are better. Those curved ones are kinda awkward with the low-step entry

  • SMB128B's Avatar
    5,067 posts since May '11
    • Originally posted by SMB1368T:

      Actually the doors with the horizontal straight bars are better. Those curved ones are kinda awkward with the low-step entry

      When I said outdated straight ones it is the bloody slanted ones on SMC..

      Tbf I agree that the horizontal ones, such as the ones on Ventura or Deans, are best.. but thr curved ones are still better than the slanted ones which offer poor grip for commuters..

  • ND323F's Avatar
    82 posts since Mar '17
    • Most European models has curved bars because in Europe, the bus stop pavement is very low. The curved bars provides a wider coverage for the commuters to hold on when they embark the bus from low pavement.

      In SG’s case, I see that you guys prefer horizontal, might be because our bus stop pavement and the bus’s floor height is very close.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,590 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by ND323F:

      Most European models has curved bars because in Europe, the bus stop pavement is very low. The curved bars provides a wider coverage for the commuters to hold on when they embark the bus from low pavement.

      In SG’s case, I see that you guys prefer horizontal, might be because our bus stop pavement and the bus’s floor height is very close.

      I prefer low kerb,High kerb high chances of kerb rash despite elderly love high kerb.

  • CB2883J's Avatar
    394 posts since Sep '15
  • ND323F's Avatar
    82 posts since Mar '17
    • Originally posted by CB2883J:

      Usually how long do new buses sit in STK before being moved to depot


      Perhaps this morning some will move to SBST Seletar Depot?

  • lemon1974's Avatar
    9,598 posts since Dec '04
    • Originally posted by ND323F:


      Perhaps this morning some will move to SBST Seletar Depot?

      dun think they will give the new buses to SEDEP...

      most likely they will take the 7 B9 under storage.. 

      those new buses will mostly go to SMRT while SMRT will throw out some B9/Citaro.(how on earth are they allowed to take in new A95 (5855-5864) to replace B9)?

  • ND323F's Avatar
    82 posts since Mar '17
    • Originally posted by lemon1974:

      dun think they will give the new buses to SEDEP...

      most likely they will take the 7 B9 under storage.. 

      those new buses will mostly go to SMRT while SMRT will throw out some B9/Citaro.(how on earth are they allowed to take in new A95 (5855-5864) to replace B9)?


      851e

  • lemon1974's Avatar
    9,598 posts since Dec '04
  • ND323F's Avatar
    82 posts since Mar '17
    • Originally posted by lemon1974:

      They can use the 7 B9 instead.


      Yup, they should and should also stop wasting everyone else's time.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,590 posts since Nov '03
    • Amdep:Around 4-5 O405Gs waiting for scrap

      Wlbp:Around 7-9 O405Gs waiting for scrap

      Wldep:Around 4-6 O405Gs waiting for scrap

      Kjdep:Around 4-5 O405Gs waiting for scrap

      I think SMRT will get the Euro6 A95 first,They shall continued to use the B9TL and Citaro.

      After that SBST will receive those new A22 & A95 too to replace the DM3500s & Tridents and progressively B10TL SOs.

  • CB2883J's Avatar
    394 posts since Sep '15
    • Two units spotted in SEDEP at some point in the last 24 hours. SG1749E and SG1751Y. 

      For reasons unknown, it seems they are no longer there.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,590 posts since Nov '03
  • SBS2792K's Avatar
    226 posts since Jun '17
    • Originally posted by CB2883J:

      Two units spotted in SEDEP at some point in the last 24 hours. SG1749E and SG1751Y. 

      For reasons unknown, it seems they are no longer there.

      parking at 811 lot covered by others

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