So I have a question that I hopefully can get your advice on.
First some background information:
I went for my first CMPB checkup in Feb 13' and because I was morbidly obese and had a suspected high blood pressure condition, they made me come back for check ups that lasted till June. They finally gave me a PES BP and my enlistment date is coming up on 27 Nov.
Since then though, I've lost almost 50kg and can qualify for PES B1 because my BMI is within the range they set (my NAPFA still fail so lol). I've battled going back for a re-classification because I have holidays sceduled on the first two weeks of Nov but scanning through the forums it seems the next B1 intake is happening on the second week of December. As such my questions are:
1) If I do go back for reclassification, would there be a chance that the intake is already full and I'd have to wait till the next intake in 2014?
2) Will they do anything if I appear on my BP enlistment date in Tekong and I actually don't qualify for the Obese BMT programme? Make me turn around and go home or carry on?
Thanks so much for the help in advance! :)
1. The only direct official way to know is to call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
To book a medical appointment with CMPB's MCC, please call 6373 1340.
2. The differences are shown below:Edited by eac 22 Oct `13, 12:40PM
Prepare for PTP/BMT: http://iprep.ns.sg/
Secrets to Pass IPPT: http://lifestyle.www.ns.sg/features/fitnessxchange
Types of Basic Military Training
PES A/B1 BMT
This 9-week programme trains combat-fit recruits in the basic military skills to prepare them for advanced vocational training. The programme includes weapon training with the SAR 21 rifle which will teach recruits technical handling and marksmanship skills; a Battle Inoculation Course that simulates a real battlefield; a Field Camp which develops basic survival skills; progressive training to complete a 24-km route march which builds combat fitness and endurance; and hand grenade training.
For those who fail to achieve the NAPFA test silver award, they are required to undergo an 8-week Physical Training Phase (PTP) prior to the PES A/B1 BMT.
PES BP BMT
As evidence has shown that obese recruits are able to achieve optimum fitness levels and weight loss in about 19 weeks, the new BMT programme for recruits with Body Mass Index (BMI) scores exceeding 27.0 will be 19 weeks. This BMT programme is designed to help obese recruits improve their physical fitness progressively while equipping them with basic soldiering skills and knowledge.
PES B2 BMT
Enlistees who were PES C1 previously underwent a 7-week BMT programme. The new 9-week PES B2 BMT programme will be conducted for recruits who are medically fit for deployment in selected combat and combat support vocations, such as signal operators, combat medics and naval system operators. These recruits will be given a new medical classification of PES B2, in place of the existing PES C1 classification. This is to ensure that the medical classification of our soldiers is consistent with their deployment. The new 9-week programme will include customised physical training, as well as basic combat training to prepare them for their combat and combat support roles.
PES C BMT
The 9-week BMT programme will be conducted for PES C recruits. This programme will include light physical training and vocational training to prepare them for combat service support vocations, such as service medic, and those related to logistics and administration.
PES E BMT
The 4-week BMT programme will be conducted for PES E recruits. This programme will focus on, vocational training as well as National Education, SAF core values, regimentation and discipline to prepare recruits for combat service support vocations.
Source: Newspapers, ChannelNewsAsia.com
12 October 2013
Be a guide, friend and mentor -- that is what 307 new SAF Officers were told to do for the men they will lead.
National Development Minister Khaw Boon Wan said this at their commissioning on Saturday, which took place after they underwent nearly 10 months of rigorous training at the Officer Cadet School.
Among them is Second Lieutenant Muhammad Idris Sadli, who lost his mother to cancer just two months after being enlisted to the cadet school.
Shortly after, his younger brother died from leukaemia.
Second Lieutenant Muhammad Idris, an infantry officer, said: "My dad will always tell me that my mum will be very proud of me if I just carry on with where I'm going."
Second Lieutenant Silas Neo had trained to be a pilot, but did not make the cut.
The 23-year-old then opted to become a weapons systems officer, but was again unsuccessful.
But with the support of his family, he is now Overall Best Trainee, and will join the Republic of Singapore Air Force's (RSAF)'s radar systems team.
Second Lieutenant Neo, C3 Radar, RSAF, said: "I had to put in more effort in whatever I did, so I guess all my effort paid off.
"I guess the Best Trainee was just a bonus for me because I gained a lot more through this journey, you know like my personal values, and I could be a better leader."
Second Lieutenant Loh Ying, meanwhile, stood out from the crowd as one of three women officers in the cohort.
The Mass Communications graduate was awarded Best in Physical Training in her vocation.
Second Lieutenant Loh Ying, an artillery officer, said: "In the army, a lot of different people come together, from different backgrounds, so everybody brings a fresh, new perspective.
“It doesn't mean that just because you're a woman, you bring a certain kind of perspective."
National Development Minister Khaw urged the officers to be good role models for National Service recruits.
Mr Khaw said: "Many of them have grown up in a period of relative peace and stability and may not understand why we need a strong defence and NS.
“As their commander, help them find their commitment to NS. Instil in them the belief that they can play a part in defending our home and our way of life."
Mr Khaw also told the officers that the strength of the SAF lies in its people.
- CNA/ndEdited by eac 27 Oct `13, 5:32PM
Pre-enlistees will be required to complete pre-enlistment procedures and medical screening before they are scheduled for enlistment.
They will be scheduled for enlistment into the respective enlistment intakes based on numerous considerations such as the medical & physical fitness and educational qualifications of the individual, as well as the manpower and operational requirements of the various intakes.
In general, pre-enlistees from the same 'A' level/International Baccalaureate (IB) or polytechnic cohort are enlisted over two intakes due to capacity constraints at the NS training schools. For example, 'A' level/ IB holders who graduate in Nov/Dec are typically enlisted in the Dec and Mar quarterly intakes. Polytechnic diploma holders who graduate in Mar/Apr are typically enlisted in the Jun and Sep quarterly intakes. ITE certificate holders and pre-enlistees with other qualifications are enlisted throughout the year.
Pre-enlistees can only be assigned to an enlistment intake after being certified medically fit for enlistment at the pre-enlistment medical screening. Pre-enlistees will receive Enlistment Notices to notify them of their enlistment date about 2 months before their scheduled enlistment.
After completing their BMT, servicemen who have performed well and are assessed to possess leadership qualitites will be sent to either Officer Cadet School (OCS) or Specialist Cadet School (SCS) to be trained as commanders.
Find out more:
Officer Cadet School (OCS)
Specialist Cadet School (SCS)Edited by eac 26 Oct `13, 3:02PM
AsiaOne, The Straits Times
Saturday, Apr 13, 2013
291 Army and 47 Air Force officer cadets were commissioned as officers of the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) at the SAFTI Military Institute on Saturday evening.
Minister, Prime Minister's Office, Second Minister for the Environment and Water Resources and Second Minister for Foreign Affairs Ms Grace Fu Hai Yien reviewed the commissioning parade at the SAFTI Military Institute this evening, marking the completion of 38 weeks of rigorous training at the Officer Cadet School.
The newly commissioned officers will go on to assume command, instructional or staff appointments in the SAF.
Ms Fu congratulated the graduands for successfully completing the Officer Cadet Course and reminded them that the strength of the SAF lies not just in its military hardware, but in its people.
Among those commissioned were two International Officers – one from the Royal Thai Army and one from the Vietnam People's Army. Ms Fu said that their commissioning bears testament to the close ties and warm friendship between the countries' armed forces and nations.
Also present at the parade were Members of Parliament, senior Ministry of Defence officials and SAF officers, as well as families and friends of the newly commissioned officers.Edited by eac 27 Oct `13, 5:26PM
It doesn't matter have intakes or not, big or small batches...
The crux of the point is...
If you are selected for command schools, you will eventually be selected.
If you are not, then you will not.
Next, you will just be posted to any respective vocational schools to be trained to be one of the enlisted men, who will ORD, at the very best, as a corporal.Edited by eac 26 Oct `13, 3:36PM
AsiaOne, The Straits Times
Sunday, Jul 14, 2013
542 officer cadets were commissioned as officers of the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) on Sunday evening.
Deputy Prime Minister, Coordinating Minister for National Security and Minister for Home Affairs, Mr Teo Chee Hean, reviewed the officers at the commissioning parade at the SAFTI Military Institute.
This cohort of graduands comprised of 441 Army, 55 Air Force and 46 Navy officer cadets.
Speaking at the parade, Mr Teo emphasised the important role that the SAF officers play as commanders in developing a sense of mission in their men and women.
"Lead by example and demonstrate a strong sense of conviction in whatever you do… Help them to adjust to life in National Service, and to take personal ownership over national defence," he said.
The parade marked the completion of 38 weeks of rigorous training at the Officer Cadet School.
The newly-commissioned officers will move on to assume command, instructional or staff appointments in the SAF.
Also present at the parade were Members of Parliament, senior Ministry of Defence officials and SAF officers, as well as families and friends of the newly-commissioned officers.Edited by eac 27 Oct `13, 5:26PM
Well, at least now you are using your brains to think more about when the intakes are.
Therefore, that is,
The enhanced leadership batches' enlistment months + the length of the PTP/BMT periods = OCS/ SCS intakes.
See, now you are able to switch on and have just enable the use of your brains to think.
If you still cannot think, then you know that you just might not have the ability and quality to make the cut to make it to command schools (OCS/ SCS). The selected ones for OCS and SCS need to think more, hard and long to plan and action.
Perhaps it is better for you to just switch off your brains to be posted to a vocational school to trained as an enlisted man. Because as enlisted men, there are much more longer free time (admin time) for men to relax/ sleep in bunk/ canteen breaks when the commanders are still working to plan and do more things in the planning room.
Cheers.Edited by eac 26 Oct `13, 11:58PM