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  • MountainTortise's Avatar
    31 posts since Jan '11
    • Does anyone here knows how is the life as an Airforce Engineer (AFE) ME4? What do they do at work?

      Questions:

      1. The longest duration for overseas training?

      2. Salary for a 3rd class honours?

      3. Is there commissioning parade? Social night and comms ball night?

  • metastate's Avatar
    4 posts since Dec '10
    • 1. No overseas training for ME4. Longest deployment would be two years at US.

      2. Third class honors would be a graduate with merit if i am not wrong. Salary is about 3.6-3.8 for an officer cadet. 

      3. Social night only, which is right after you finish your two months course in OCS before being posted for further specialisation. No commissioning parade and comms ball for ME4

  • MountainTortise's Avatar
    31 posts since Jan '11
    • Is the two years at US a compulsory?

      And how do you know there is no commissioning parade for ME4?

  • Delirious_prince's Avatar
    48 posts since Feb '11
    • Hi MountainTortise,

      Yes there is no commissioning parade for ME4. Instead you have a Senior Military Experts Appointment Ceremony during which you receive your ceremonial sword from the Minister and your epulattes put on your uniform by your family members.

  • wakaka00's Avatar
    7 posts since Dec '11
    • advisable to sign RSAF with a degree and be AFE or sign as other AFE like flight enginner with diploma then go uni study and they will promote you once you got a degree to ME4 .??

      i think no 100% promote though 

  • Delirious_prince's Avatar
    48 posts since Feb '11
    • Hi wakaka00,

      There are two paths:

      1. Get a degree first and then sign on as an ME4. (It can also work in the way that you apply when you already have a place in the U... can apply for other cool stuff like MDES Study Award etc..)

      2. Get a diploma and sign on as an ME1. After getting a university placing, it is not guaranteed that SAF will sponsor your studies and it is also not guaranteed that you will be emplaced to ME4 once you have gotten your degree. You have to go through a process in order to qualify for emplacement.

      Compare the two and decide which one is better for you...

  • Nobode's Avatar
    8 posts since May '10
    • The 2 years oversea detachment is on rotational basis. I believe they will base on your performance and capability before sending you for the deployment.

       

      The starting pay for ME4 is 3.7 to 3.9 but due to the MDES scheme which delays your promotion,the next jump might take 7 years. It might not be beneficial to join the SaF as compared to years back. My advise to you is look outside first before getting your self bonded. Since SAF comes up with this MDS scheme they are open to recruitment any time if u r below 40.

  • getsby's Avatar
    48 posts since Jun '08
    • I got NTU degree mechanical engineering, 2nd lower

      4 years exp from STaero, dealing with aircraft maintenance /modification..

      If I join AFE, what will be my pay as a trainee ME4(T)...and how much if I pass out from the MDEC course

       

      I do know that navy engineer trainee 1st class, ME4(T) getting $4760 already, so I assume AFE ME4(T) for 1st class also getting $4760 as trainee. They pass out will get 5k??

  • Shawnlee3010's Avatar
    1 post since Mar '12
    • Hi everyone,

      I am graduating soon with an NTU Aerospace Engineering degree. Am looking at ST Aero Operations Engineer with a starting of 3.5k and AFE with a starting of 4.8k.

      My main concerns here would be:

      1. Is the employability of an AFE after 4 years comparable to those of similar years of experience in the private sector, specifically ST Aero.

      2. If break the 4 year bond halfway, how much are the liquidated damages we have to pay?

      Hope someone here will be able to help with some info and advice. Very much appreciated!

      Cheers!

  • cout << user's Avatar
    46 posts since May '04
    • Originally posted by Nobode:

      The 2 years oversea detachment is on rotational basis. I believe they will base on your performance and capability before sending you for the deployment.

       

      The starting pay for ME4 is 3.7 to 3.9 but due to the MDES scheme which delays your promotion,the next jump might take 7 years. It might not be beneficial to join the SaF as compared to years back. My advise to you is look outside first before getting your self bonded. Since SAF comes up with this MDS scheme they are open to recruitment any time if u r below 40.


      Wa lao. Why the next jump in 7 years/ so long? How about those in combat side?

  • alize's Avatar
    3,369 posts since Dec '10
    • Originally posted by cout << user:


      Wa lao. Why the next jump in 7 years/ so long? How about those in combat side?

      I think it's because govt pay is never great.

      3.9 as starting pay is already very good by govt standard. The govt will try to make back in later years.

  • getsby's Avatar
    48 posts since Jun '08
    • <<Hi everyone,

      I am graduating soon with an NTU Aerospace Engineering degree. Am looking at ST Aero Operations Engineer with a starting of 3.5k and AFE with a starting of 4.8k.>>

       


      Are you 1st class honours when you grad, as far as I know, 3.5k salary is for 1st class grad for the year 2011.
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