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  • Alphapunk2's Avatar
    111 posts since Apr '07
    • hello

      i'll be enlisting very soon, on 10th may to be exact (tekong) and i'd like to ask if it's ok to bring my iphone? I don't know about all these "green zones" where camera phones are alright or the "red zones" which aren't.

      Thanks

      Edited by Alphapunk2 02 May `13, 12:43AM
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    eac's Avatar
    4,041 posts since Dec '03
    • Sources:
      www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/publications/cyberpioneer/news/2012/aug/31aug12_news.html

         Signboards like this are mounted at the entrances of the 14 camps to inform servicemen that camera mobile phones are permitted within Green Zones.

      From 1 Sep 2012, camera mobile phones will be permitted in designated areas within 14 Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) camps as part of a pilot security zoning programme.

      Selected for the high volume of Operationally-Ready National Servicemen (NSmen) and full-time National Servicemen (NSFs) who pass through for training or administration, these include camps that house fitness conditioning centres, training institutes, the Central Manpower Base and Basic Military Training Centre.

      Areas in camps where camera mobile phones are allowed are termed Green Zones, though the existing security stance on photography remains the same. Unless authorised by unit commanders for special events such as open houses, graduation parades and cohesion activities, photography is prohibited. Examples of Green Zones include medical centres, accommodation bunks and cookhouses.

      Within the Red Zones, which are areas where sensitive and classified information is present, camera mobile phones are not allowed. Before entering a Red Zone, camera mobile phones must be deposited in lockers. Examples of Red Zones include units' operation rooms and offices with computer access to classified information.

      The pilot programme was implemented for the convenience of servicemen, and because of the proliferation of smart phones, according to Chief of Staff-General Staff Brigadier-General Tung Yui Fai, who announced this initiative at the Infantry Training Institute (ITI) on 31 Aug.

      He added: "This security zoning allows us to better secure areas we think we need to protect better. At the same time, it allows flexibility and convenience for our servicemen who operate within the camp."

      Enhanced security measures will be in place at the Red Zones. Where practical, a perimeter fence will be erected to demarcate the Red from the Green Zones; clear signboards will be prominently displayed at the entrance of a Red Zone, and digital locks and close-circuit cameras will be installed for added security.

      Only camera mobile phones are allowed in this pilot programme, which will last for six to nine months before a review is conducted. Tablets such as iPads, laptops and digital cameras are still prohibited.

      For NSman 3rd Sergeant (3SG) (NS) Lavin Achudan, a marketing manager with Johnson & Johnson who uses an iPhone 4S to access his work emails, being able to bring his camera phone into camp eases his workload. Previously, he would borrow his brother’s basic NOKIA phone when he had to go for his In-Camp Training.

      "As a marketing manager, I have to constantly reply to emails from my sales team and customers, and replying emails in the shortest time possible is my highest priority. Allowing me to bring my iPhone to camp allows me to communicate with my customers efficiently, and that is very important to me," said the platoon sergeant of 731st Battalion, Singapore Infantry Regiment.  

      "When I am not training, I can reply to these emails immediately, as opposed to having to wait till I book out at night to reply to emails. It allows me to reply whenever I have time... It's about the convenience of being able to bring in a phone which I always use, which happens to have a camera," added the 28-year-old.

      Echoing this sentiment is 20-year-old NSF 2nd Lieutenant (2LT) Kok Chun Hou, who is a curriculum coordinator at ITI. He uses a basic NOKIA phone in camp and an iPhone 3GS outside of camp.

      Citing some inconveniences of using two phones, such as having to input contacts into both phones, 2LT Kok said: "This current NSF generation grew up in the IT age; it's our habit to stay connected. We live, work and play differently from previous generations, so connectivity is very important to us."

      "I would also use my smart phone for personal banking and stock-investing. With the implementation of the pilot scheme, I now have the option of just stepping out of the office to use my smart phone," he said.

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      For the convenience of our servicemen, the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) will be implementing a pilot security zoning programme across 14 selected SAF camps. Under the pilot security zoning programme, these 14 camps will be segregated into two distinct zones: Red and Green Zone.

      From 1 Sep 2012, servicemen will be allowed to carry camera equipped mobile phones into the Green Zones of the 14 selected SAF camps. For servicemen who need to enter the Red Zone, they must deposit their camera equipped mobile phones at designated lockers prior to entry.

      Photography in all SAF camp premises for both Red and Green Zones remain prohibited unless expressedly allowed.

       

      The Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) will be implementing a pilot security zoning programme across 14 selected SAF camps on 1 Sep 2012. These 14 selected SAF camps will be segregated into either Red or Green Zone. Servicemen will be allowed to carry camera equipped mobile phones in the Green Zones. Possession of camera equipped mobile phone is prohibited in Red Zones. Before entering a Red Zone, servicemen who possess a camera equipped mobile phone are required to deposit them at the provided lockers.

      Red Zones. Areas where sensitive and classified information and equipment are processed and managed. These areas may include server rooms, unit operation rooms, and offices with computer access to sensitive information. All other areas outside the Red Zone will be designated as Green Zones. Some examples of Green Zone areas are medical centres, accommodation bunks and cookhouses.

      Enhanced security measures will be implemented in the Red Zone. Wherever practical, a perimeter fence will be established to segregate the Red and Green Zones. Clear warning signboards will be prominently displayed at the entrance to inform servicemen that they are about to enter a Red Zone. Digital locks will also be installed to control access into the Red Zones. CCTVs with images wired to the unit operations room will also be installed at selected locations within the Red Zone.

      Photography in all SAF camp premises continues to be prohibited regardless of the zone.

      Edited by eac 02 May `13, 1:06AM
  • t0lietb0iie's Avatar
    39 posts since Jan '08
    • enlist tekong better dont bring ..

      if lost you suck thumb nia.

      plus if kena caught say byebye to your weekends.

  • Alphapunk2's Avatar
    111 posts since Apr '07

    • Selected for the high volume of Operationally-Ready National Servicemen (NSmen) and full-time National Servicemen (NSFs) who pass through for training or administration, these include camps that house fitness conditioning centres, training institutes, the Central Manpower Base and Basic Military Training Centre.

      Areas in camps where camera mobile phones are allowed are termed Green Zones, though the existing security stance on photography remains the same. Unless authorised by unit commanders for special events such as open houses, graduation parades and cohesion activities, photography is prohibited. Examples of Green Zones include medical centres, accommodation bunks and cookhouses.

      BMTC = Pulau Tekong.

      So is it ok to bring a camera phone?

      Why would I get "caught"?

      Isn't it a green zone area?

      Are the theft cases in Tekong?

      Edited by eac 03 May `13, 10:29AM
  • BEARZAIS's Avatar
    216 posts since Jan '08
    • Originally posted by Alphapunk2:

      hello

      i'll be enlisting very soon, on 10th may to be exact (tekong) and i'd like to ask if it's ok to bring my iphone? I don't know about all these "green zones" where camera phones are alright or the "red zones" which aren't.

      Thanks

      Hi alpha,

      sometimes yes its a green zone but you do have to understand that each individual coy oc have the power to disallow the usuage of camera phone..some on the pretext of illigal photos taken in camp,things like that...so its essential to ensure that ur individual company allows the usuage of such phones..good luck.....

  • Alphapunk2's Avatar
    111 posts since Apr '07
    • Originally posted by BEARZAIS:

      Hi alpha,

      sometimes yes its a green zone but you do have to understand that each individual coy oc have the power to disallow the usuage of camera phone..some on the pretext of illigal photos taken in camp,things like that...so its essential to ensure that ur individual company allows the usuage of such phones..good luck.....

      ahh, so i guess i'll just leave my phone at home for the first 2 weeks in BMT, find out if my company allows it and then decide which to bring for the remaining time in BMT

      Thanks so much!

  • BEARZAIS's Avatar
    216 posts since Jan '08
    • Originally posted by Alphapunk2:

      ahh, so i guess i'll just leave my phone at home for the first 2 weeks in BMT, find out if my company allows it and then decide which to bring for the remaining time in BMT

      Thanks so much!

      That would be the safest apporach 
      good luck on ur enlistment ,i remeber not getting any sleep the previous night before enlistment ...it was really tense for some unknown reason...

  • Alphapunk2's Avatar
    111 posts since Apr '07
    • i guess it's just.... uncertainty of what to expect.... i'm having the same thing now, each day i sleep later and later.... and right now the time i sleep at is 5am..... 

      Have you already finished your 2 years? 

  • fudgester's Avatar
    25,382 posts since Jan '04
    • In any case, it is a good idea for you to buy an el cheapo 2G phone as a spare.

      $60 gets you one at 7 Eleven.

      When you go out into the jungle you would rather risk an el cheapo $60 phone instead of an expensive Galaxy S4.

  • SBS494J's Avatar
    317 posts since Nov '10
    • Originally posted by Alphapunk2:

      hello

      i'll be enlisting very soon, on 10th may to be exact (tekong) and i'd like to ask if it's ok to bring my iphone? I don't know about all these "green zones" where camera phones are alright or the "red zones" which aren't.

      Thanks

      Hi there, looks like we're enlisting on the same day and at the same place. My suggestion for now will be just leave your Iphone at home for the time being. Carry an simple nokia phone. Settle in for the next two weeks and see if your company allows you to carry your beloved iphone into camp. At the end of the day, would you treasure your sleep or iphone? Just live without internet for the next two weeks and everything will be alright. Wishing you all the best :)

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