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  • Xxjordenx's Avatar
    75 posts since Jan '11
    • Hello, I'm a new NS recruit enlisted on 7 May 2014.
      I'm currently in the PES A/ B (combat-fit) Enhanced BMT (Leadership). 

      1) Which NS unit and which vocation will I be posted to if I failed some component tests such as IPPT and SOC? Are the BMT POP Posting Orders randomised?

      2) If I do not get into command schools (OCS/ SCS), I will then become an enlistee man (basic vocationalist), so what is the highest NS rank I am eligible/ qualify in the 22 or 24 months of NS? How long will each rank promotion take? 

       

      Edited by eac 01 Jun `14, 1:38PM
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    eac's Avatar
    4,047 posts since Dec '03
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      Source:
      www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef_websites/atozlistings/army/About_BMT.html

       



      Types of Basic Military Training


      PES A/B1 BMT
      This 9-week programme trains combat-fit recruits in the basic military skills to prepare them for advanced vocational training. The programme includes weapon training with the SAR 21 rifle which will teach recruits technical handling and marksmanship skills; a Battle Inoculation Course that simulates a real battlefield; a Field Camp which develops basic survival skills; progressive training to complete a 24-km route march which builds combat fitness and endurance; and hand grenade training.
      For those who fail to achieve the NAPFA test silver award, they are required to undergo an 8-week Physical Training Phase (PTP) prior to the PES A/B1 BMT.
       
      PES BP BMT
      As evidence has shown that obese recruits are able to achieve optimum fitness levels and weight loss in about 19 weeks, the new BMT programme for recruits with Body Mass Index (BMI) scores exceeding 27.0 will be 19 weeks. This BMT programme is designed to help obese recruits improve their physical fitness progressively while equipping them with basic soldiering skills and knowledge.


      PES B2 BMT
      Enlistees who were PES C1 previously underwent a 7-week BMT programme. The new 9-week PES B2 BMT programme will be conducted for recruits who are medically fit for deployment in selected combat and combat support vocations, such as signal operators, combat medics and naval system operators. These recruits will be given a new medical classification of PES B2, in place of the existing PES C1 classification. This is to ensure that the medical classification of our soldiers is consistent with their deployment. The new 9-week programme will include customised physical training, as well as basic combat training to prepare them for their combat and combat support roles.
       
      PES C BMT
      The 9-week BMT programme will be conducted for PES C recruits. This programme will include light physical training and vocational training to prepare them for combat service support vocations, such as service medic, and those related to logistics and administration.
       
      PES E BMT
      The 4-week BMT programme will be conducted for PES E recruits. This programme will focus on, vocational training as well as National Education, SAF core values, regimentation and discipline to prepare recruits for combat service support vocations.

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      NS Ranks 

      1. mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef_websites/topics/ranks/index.html

      2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Armed_Forces_ranks

       

       

      Edited by eac 01 Jun `14, 1:15PM
  • Eegoh's Avatar
    19 posts since Jun '13
    • As a "man", enlistees include all basic vocationalists in the SAF.

      Upon enlistment, enlistees enter Basic Military Training (BMT) as Recruits (REC).
      After graduating from BMT, they attain the rank of Private (PTE).
      Good performers will progress to the ranks of Private (First Class) (PFC), Lance Corporal (LCP), Corporal (CPL) and Corporal (First Class) (CFC). 

       

       

       

       

       

      Edited by eac 04 Jun `14, 12:25AM
    • New enlistees are given the rank of Recruit until they passed out or complete their respective Basic Military Training. Once Recruits complete their Basic Military Training, they attain the rank of Private. Recruits and Privates of all services do not wear any rank insignia.

      The rank of Lance Corporal is usually attained after the privates passed out of their respective vocational courses and within the 1st year of service.

      The rank of Corporal is usually attained within the 2nd year of service.

      The rank of Corporal First Class is awarded to Corporals in the top tier (30%) of their cohorts who have held the rank for at least six months by recommendation.

       

       

      NS Ranks 

      1. mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef_websites/topics/ranks/index.html

      2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Armed_Forces_ranks

       

       

      Corporal first class ("CFC") is the highest enlistee rank in the Singapore Armed Forces, ranking just above corporal and below third sergeant.[1] It is awarded to well-performing corporals at the top tier of their cohorts who have held the rank for at least six months and is by recommendation only to the formation or division HQ. CFCs may be given higher appointments or other equivalent responsibilities.

      The rank was introduced on 1 September 1988.[2] At that time the CFC rank insignia was indicated by the usual two stripes on the arm, but with a horizontal bar above the two stripes. Reintroduced in 2008, the CFC rank insignia now is an additional arc on the top compared to corporal rank insignia.

       

       

       

       

       

      Edited by eac 06 Jun `14, 9:52AM
  • Wataudoing23's Avatar
    88 posts since Jun '14
    • Specialists are subject matter experts in their respective vocations and the repository of experience in the skills of soldiering. They would have skill-based knowledge in specialised areas like operations, maintenance of weapon systems, combat skills, regimental procedures, training and administration.

      Promising enlistees with command potential will be selected to go to the School of Infantry Specialists (SISPEC) for a professional military leadership course. During the course, they will don the Specialist Cadet (SCT) rank. Upon graduation, they will be promoted to Third Sergeant (3SG). Thereafter they will progress to Second Sergeant (2SG), First Sergeant (1SG), Staff Sergeant (SSG) and Master Sergeant (MSG).

      Edited by eac 11 Jun `14, 10:12AM
    • The Warrant Officers form the middle management and linkage between the command and the men. They form the backbone of the SAF's operational and training units to develop key competencies in leadership, tactical warfighting expertise and front-end training supervision.Warrant Officers will progress along the ranks of 3rd Warrant Officer (3WO), 2nd Warrant Officer (2WO), 1st Warrant Officer (1WO), Master Warrant Officer (MWO), Senior Warrant Officer (SWO) and Chief Warrant Officer (CWO).

      Edited by eac 11 Jun `14, 10:13AM
    • MDES' rank structure has eight ranks from ME1 to ME8 and is an enhancement to existing officers' and warrant officers' career schemes. This is a contiguous rank structure, with continual advancements from ME1 to senior ME ranks for outstanding performers. Being the leadership and deep expertise nucleus of MDES, ME4 and above MEs will be appointed as Senior MEs. ME7 and ME8 will hold pinnacle appointments, commensurate with the attainment of deeper expertise and greater leadership responsibilities.

      Edited by eac 11 Jun `14, 10:13AM
    • The rank of lance-corporal (LCP) in the Singapore Armed Forces ranks between private (PTE) and corporal (CPL).[2]

      Like the rank of corporal, it is not considered a specialist rank, and the lance-corporal has no command authority by virtue of his rank. However, lance-corporals who are usually appointed second-in-command/ third-in-command of a section (military unit) do have the authority to command the rest of the section. National Servicemen in such appointments are usually promoted to this rank after the privates completed their respective vocational courses and within the 1st year of service.

      A lance-corporal wears rank insignia of a single point down chevron with an arc above it (similar to an upside down US Army PFC rank badge).

      Edited by eac 11 Jun `14, 10:07AM
    • Corporal in the Singapore Armed Forces lies between lance corporal and corporal first class.[8] It is a rank most commonly held by Full Time National Servicemen with at least an A Level Certification or Polytechnic Diploma. National Servicemen are usually promoted to this rank within the 2nd year of service.

      In the past, the SAF followed the British model, and corporals were non-commissioned officers often holding the appointment of section leader. Today, a corporal is not a specialist (NCO-equivalent), and holds no command authority, although they may be given higher responsibilities such as appointment as a section 2IC, or 2nd-in-command.[citation needed]

      In the Singapore Police Force, Singapore Civil Defence Force, Singapore Prison Service and Immigration and Checkpoints Authority, a corporal is a rank below sergeant. The rank is also used in uniformed groups for students such as National Police Cadet Corps, National Cadet Corps and National Civil Defence Cadet Corps.

      The rank insignia for a corporal is two chevrons pointing downward with an arc on top.

      Edited by eac 13 Jun `14, 10:17AM
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