http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 en-US 60 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Xcert:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>I have my reservations on the natural instinct part...yes a steering has self-centering mechanics built-in...at least most of the cars do...but whether its a good idea to depend on it is a personal consideration.<img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/teeth.png" alt= "teeth.png" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Of course you can depend on it, at least after you are experienced.&nbsp;<img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" /></p> Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:04:14 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8593307 alleggerita http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by alleggerita:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>This is not a bad habit, this is just natural instinct to make use of the steering's self-centering effect. Drive for long and you'll know a steering has self-centering effect.&nbsp;<img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "icon_lol.gif" /><img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I have my reservations on the natural instinct part...yes a steering has self-centering mechanics built-in...at least most of the cars do...but whether its a good idea to depend on it is a personal consideration.<img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/teeth.png" alt= "teeth.png" /></p> Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:31:14 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8587501 Xcert http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>Release the clutch slowly while depressing a bit of e accelerator.&nbsp;Most important is release slowly.</p> Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:05:55 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8585928 peepeeboi http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Xcert:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>dont pass the bad habits to the P-platers leh...<img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/teeth.png" alt= "teeth.png" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>This is not a bad habit, this is just natural instinct to make use of the steering's self-centering effect. Drive for long and you'll know a steering has self-centering effect.&nbsp;<img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "icon_lol.gif" /><img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" style="" /></p> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:37:04 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8585597 alleggerita http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>step on the accelerator more</p> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:41:33 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8584459 eagle http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by alleggerita:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>But once you passed and have a little experience, you'll know that you can just release the steering a little and let it self-center back.&nbsp;<img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt= "icon_mrgreen.gif" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>dont pass the bad habits to the P-platers leh...<img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/teeth.png" alt= "teeth.png" /></p> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:40:22 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8584455 Xcert http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>Manual transmission, is all about feeling and intuition. If you are good at all, any car that you drive will not be a problem at all. I guess one reference point to gauge is the rpm sound. Step your accelerator until the tachnometer&nbsp;reads&nbsp;around&nbsp;2500rpm before you release your clutch. Once that point is reached, step your acc further and gently while releasing the clutch slowly. The car should be able to move w/o any jitters.</p> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:06:46 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8583829 lianamaster http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>I take a long time to find the biting point, roughly around 3 seconds. I believe its more on feel than on theory itself.</p> <p>After a few lessons, the biting point will naturally come.</p> Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:52:08 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8342247 tranicide http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>haha now reading these threads make me think back bout my driving lessons then..</p> <p>yeah..can still rem my first u turn ..so funny car cant go straight..cos i turn back steering too late</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:12:39 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8342023 alfagal http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>For learners, one thing very important about U-turning. Maintain a very slow speed. Don't care about the cars behind you and don't let them pressure you. Turn slowly and turn back your steering fast. But once you passed and have a little experience, you'll know that you can just release the steering a little and let it self-center back.&nbsp;<img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt= "icon_mrgreen.gif" /></p> Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:09:38 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8287382 alleggerita http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>two things which people always fail to mention.</p> <p>1) make sure your seat is in a comfortable n close up position so you do not have to over stretch your legs to fully depress the clutch. with the cluch fully depressed, your knee shd b slightly bent n you have ease of movement by just angling your feet with your heel still on the floorboard.</p> <p>2) foot wear. best to always wear the same shoes for all your lessons n test, personally i prefer flat based shoes with very thin sole so that i can 'feel' the pedals. diff soles will give you diff feel and if you keep changing your shoes youll nvr be able to get used to it.</p> Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:40:26 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8286928 skeujin http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>U turn is easy, just keep a steady speed. Maintain your view towards a single point at the other side of the road..</p> <p>As soon as your car is straightening..</p> <p>Turn your steering.. Not too fast not to slow...</p> <p>A few more tries and you will get the flow...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Just maintain a slow steady speed for your car... which means biting point is important.. =DDD.. have fun~</p> Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:31:50 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8286902 Zyber12311 http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by alleggerita:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>That is if you understand your instructor. On my first ever lesson, i met this instructor, the english horrible! I didn't understand what was he teaching and i didn't get my biting point and kept stalling.&nbsp;<img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mad.gif" alt="icon_mad.gif" /></p> <p>Then on my 2nd lesson, I met a MUCH better instructor, immediately got my biting point correct, no more stalling.&nbsp;<img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt= "icon_mrgreen.gif" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Haha thanks guys, I managed to get it already. My instructor doesn't teach!&nbsp;Need to learn everything by myself, he just gives me direction and asks me to accelerate/break(I do the gear change by myself already). Hopefully can hear good news from me soon. Working on my U-turn and abit more on gear changing. I'm pretty smooth with gear changing compared to last time. U turn is still not too good. Sometimes over-steer onto another lane.</p> Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:26:55 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8286883 Gosu. http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Subaru WRX:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>ask ur instructor. they know the "feel" more.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>That is if you understand your instructor. On my first ever lesson, i met this instructor, the english horrible! I didn't understand what was he teaching and i didn't get my biting point and kept stalling.&nbsp;<img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mad.gif" alt="icon_mad.gif" /></p> <p>Then on my 2nd lesson, I met a MUCH better instructor, immediately got my biting point correct, no more stalling.&nbsp;<img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt= "icon_mrgreen.gif" /></p> Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:16:01 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8286333 alleggerita http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>hahaa yes, the biting point differs from car to car anyway so the only advice that can be given is to get the "feel" of it.</p> Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:57:24 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8285148 burg http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>practice, practice, practice.</p> <p>you'll get to it eventually..</p> Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:36:20 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8264884 mamamamama http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>If you are practising, when the car is at a standstill (ie. free gear and handbrake engaged), engage 1st gear. Then, at the same time you are slowly releasing clutch and depressing the accelerator, there are 2 ways to hear when the biting point is reached.</p> <p>The ah cek way is to listen to the sound. When the revving sound volume suddenly drops, that is more or less the biting point or the half clutch.</p> <p>Another way is to look at the Tachometer (I think that's what it is called...). When you initially depress on the accelerator, the needle will generally point to a reading around 1500 - 2000 rpm. As you are likely&nbsp;only an L-plate, I doubt you will be hitting the gas too much as I think your instructor will kpkb if you do so. Therefore your engine rpm should not be too high. as you keep constant pressure on your accelerator and slowly release your clutch, pay attention to the needle. It will suddenly drop at one point to a lower rpm level&nbsp;as you are releasing the clutch. Stop releasing the clutch at this point as this will more or less be the biting point. The time when the needle drops will also coincide with the drop in the revving sound volume. This is a more systematic way I feel, at least when I was an L-plate,&nbsp;for learner drivers.</p> Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:33:12 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8264876 bizzkit0102 http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>ask ur instructor. they know the "feel" more.</p> Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:14:21 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8264734 Subaru WRX http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>the best way for your body to get a biting point, is best practise on the slope up.</p> <p>It took me a while but I finally learn to control biting point with half clutch on a slope.</p> Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:09:53 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8264726 viciouskitty74 http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>step throttle abit more its allrite, release clutch slowly. the feeling will come la. hard 2 xplain</p> Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:11:48 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8264554 arii http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>slowly...</p> Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:05:12 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8262701 tofushop193 http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>use auto car</p> Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:10:37 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8262504 NG QIBO AARON AUBREY http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>feel.</p> Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:54:01 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8262427 sinicker http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110 <p>Hey guys, I have some troubles starting from gear one in my lessons.</p> <p>Problem is either I release the clutch too fast(Causing it to jerk a little) or don't press enough accelerator(causing it to jerk as well).</p> <p>So what's the different methods to tackle this? Do share your experience.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Thanks.</p> Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:15:00 +0800 sgforums.com:2:325110:8262157 Gosu. http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/325110