Dilemma between auto and manual
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I just passed my Class 3 TP last week. I have been learning with manual all along hence initially I am already accustomed to driving a manual after I pass. I'm also a car fanatic, initial d fan and interest in lots and lots of cars, hence manual certainly interest me in all aspect; basically in the speed, power, and 'seh'ness! BOOM! BOOM! (shift up) PSST! :p
However, I have been driving my dad's auto Toyota Corolla and realised it's so easy and relaxing to drive an auto car. I can concentrate on the road conditions better and safer. When driving a manual, I realised I have to multi-task, turn the steering wheel, shift up and clutch + accelerator all at the same time while ensuring safety at the same time too. I just have to turn at ease and accelerate and concentrate on the safety on an auto car. With Singapore's road conditions, the thought of driving a manual with so many traffic lights and jams will be very scary.
Basically, it's like my heart is with a manual, brain, hand and foot with an auto car.
I'm looking at the aspects of fuel efficiency too. If I were to prefer auto, I will just take over my dad's Toyota Corolla while he get a new one. I find it super fuel efficient! Drove from North to Changi to Jurong and back to North all in one night. Dropped only one bar. If I were to go for manual, my dad will probably get me a CS3. I'm afraid the manual CS3's fuel consumption will not be able to even match an auto corolla.
And insights before I commit my incoming car with either manual or auto?
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im like u too.......i know how to drive auto but still not good with manuel......im currently taking test for license and i did everything else and just need to past the road test......but i need someone to train me a bit more because i have problem with clutch......always stop engine by releasing too fast or slow
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It depends on whether you wanna go all the way with manual. I took a manual license more than a year ago, and my dad's car is a manual Kia Picanto. Hence I drive manual 95% of the time.
At the beginning I also have the same problems. Concentrating on the road conditions while changing gears, accelerating, steering and braking and the same time. I thought it was too much information for my brain and I thought driving an automatic can let me concentrate better.
But after 1 year and 5 months, I've gotten used to driving a manual. So much so that the added steps in driving (when compared to auto) won't really distract me from concentrating on the road conditions. Shifting gears becomes second nature.
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Originally posted by Ed11790:
im like u too…....i know how to drive auto but still not good with manuel…...im currently taking test for license and i did everything else and just need to past the road test…...but i need someone to train me a bit more because i have problem with clutch…...always stop engine by releasing too fast or slow
This stalling engine problem you just have to practise more. You need to learn to master your left foot to control your clutch properly. Worse come to worse, take more revision lessons before the TP test.
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i heard from a relative that Japanese cars give double the power for half the gas.. issat true? lol..
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I am not into car person...but I dun think so....
Just that the european cars are bigger so need more gas right?
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eh cheeken.. i tot u bought manual CS3 oredi? lol
to me, and many others, its really not a problem. once u get used to it, u will be concentrating on the road just as well, if not better than auto car drivers. also, doing many things at the same time works your brain a bit more, so likely u will be "sharper" in the mind too.
just my 2 cents.
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Buy a manual sports car.
then buy a saloon luxury auto.
Problem solved.
2 is always better then 1.
=D
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auto... its easy!! Thats it...
Manual have to change here and there... leg tired... somemore later engine stall, then accident etc...
Auto... its like daytona. Your need a car to drive around only so go for the easy one... simple!!
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Originally posted by MaNyZeR:
auto... its easy!! Thats it...
Manual have to change here and there... leg tired... somemore later engine stall, then accident etc...
Auto... its like daytona. Your need a car to drive around only so go for the easy one... simple!!
Then you are obviously someone who don't enjoy driving.
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You be happy if stuck in jam wid an auto...err.. not stuck,, those move abit stop, move abit stop kind...
If manual> charging into corners i can downshift & keeping the powerband + engine brake..i drive my friend gti into gudang charging into corners i abit dunno how..
If you are very used to manual, then u suddenly drive a auto, when stopping , you will keep want to step clutch + always hv to look at the greabox alpherbet..
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Originally posted by coldzero:
I just passed my Class 3 TP last week. I have been learning with manual all along hence initially I am already accustomed to driving a manual after I pass. I'm also a car fanatic, initial d fan and interest in lots and lots of cars, hence manual certainly interest me in all aspect; basically in the speed, power, and 'seh'ness! BOOM! BOOM! (shift up) PSST! :p
However, I have been driving my dad's auto Toyota Corolla and realised it's so easy and relaxing to drive an auto car. I can concentrate on the road conditions better and safer. When driving a manual, I realised I have to multi-task, turn the steering wheel, shift up and clutch + accelerator all at the same time while ensuring safety at the same time too. I just have to turn at ease and accelerate and concentrate on the safety on an auto car. With Singapore's road conditions, the thought of driving a manual with so many traffic lights and jams will be very scary.
Basically, it's like my heart is with a manual, brain, hand and foot with an auto car.
I'm looking at the aspects of fuel efficiency too. If I were to prefer auto, I will just take over my dad's Toyota Corolla while he get a new one. I find it super fuel efficient! Drove from North to Changi to Jurong and back to North all in one night. Dropped only one bar. If I were to go for manual, my dad will probably get me a CS3. I'm afraid the manual CS3's fuel consumption will not be able to even match an auto corolla.
And insights before I commit my incoming car with either manual or auto?
Thanks people!Coldzero,
Any advise for manual license? Cos i'm currently taking manual license, now only the third lesson.. Any techinque?
Eg. when changing to up gear, we just release the acclerator pedal, follow by depressing the clutch pedal and shift the gear, then (fast or slow) release the clutch pedal?
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Do Singapore have those car 2 in 1? Auto and manual in it?
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Originally posted by linwei20:
Do Singapore have those car 2 in 1? Auto and manual in it?
Yes, there is.
But they are called "DSG", "Clutch-less Manual", "S-Tronic", "Tiptronic", "Sports Mode", "Selespeed".
Hope I never use any wrong abbreviations here. Feel free to correct me and add more. I wanna learn.
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Originally posted by p228:
Yes, there is.
But they are called "DSG", "Clutch-less Manual", "S-Tronic", "Tiptronic", "Sports Mode", "Selespeed".
Hope I never use any wrong abbreviations here. Feel free to correct me and add more. I wanna learn.
there are no clutch-less manual gearboxes. manual cannot be clutchless. at the most you can say it's a gearbox with an automated clutch. that's equals to lamborghini's e-gear, alfa's selespeed, bmw's smg, etc. it can be quite jerky.
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Originally posted by linwei20:
Do Singapore have those car 2 in 1? Auto and manual in it?
yes.....but of course you can't change gear like initial D -
I will prefer manual transmision. Total control (abuse) of the car. Can play with free wheeling also as well as launch. As well as skipping gears during down shifting.
As for clutchless transmission, layman call it clutchless because there is no clutch pedal.
In technical details, BMW's SMG & Lambo's E-Gear is in a class of it's own because it is still a conventional single clutch gearbox except that the shifting mechanism works on a electro hydraulic system.
For Alfa's selespeed, it is still an normal torque convertor based automatic gearbox except for the steptronic function. Subaru, Toyota & most other Japanese makes uses this system because they have yet to develop a dual clutch system. This explains for the jerky feel in the shifting. Except that Lexus have the system so refined that they do not need to develop a clutch based automatic transmission system.
Lastly, the infamous dual clutch system. Volkswagen is the 1st carmaker to incorporate this system & they call it DSG. It is a double clutch system where the odd number gears are connected to one clutch & the even number gears are connected to another clutch. This explains why the shifting takes 0.5 seconds & below. Up to date. this is the most advanced transmission system.
After Volkwagen's DSG. Audi came out with Sport-Tronic, Porsche came out with PDK, BMW came out DCT. Nissan used this system on GTR35. Mitsubishi used this on EvoX & they call it SST. So far other Japanese carmakers have yet to catch up with them.
Hope that you're not confused with all these technical mumbo jumbo.
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Auto.
The way to go.