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  • january's Avatar
    2,089 posts since Jan '05
    • after reading the reports of his supertitious past, i find that he is quite stupid, for an adult. That is the problem of being supertitious, religious.

       

      ANyway, he now is probably a firm christian, after he found strength in god. To me, this is bad because he will get nowhere following this pathHe will probably be happier if he adopt atheism beliefs.

       

      atheism teach you that life is not about 'you, you and more you'. Hence, when crisis happens to you, you will not ask the stupid question

       

      "why is this happening to me?"

       

      Well, I am not disrespecting chew chow meng or laughing at him. I admit hisncurable illness is a bad thing. To me, as an atheist, one must be prepared for bad things in life, and one must be knowledgable about what is happening in the world, including those bad things. When one is open minded, he will become more mature. Then he will understand why such bad things happen. By natural causes, not god testing you kinda of reasongs.

  • I_love_my_toilet's Avatar
    774 posts since Sep '04
    • supertitous supertitous........

      superstitious lah

      one word can tell alot about you...

      ciao~

  • Rock^Star's Avatar
    11,142 posts since Jul '05
    • Whats ur fucking problem? He's got muscular atrophy and ur running him down?

       

      Get a life, u fucktard, son of a xxxxx and shithead imbecile, half wit and dumb ass crap. angel.png

       

      You need some mental help going by all those philosophical posts of yours, not sgforums.

  • Arkansaw's Avatar
    238 posts since Apr '08
    • yeah, that guy needs god, if not for god he might not have the courage to live on, atheism requires strong conviction too

  • january's Avatar
    2,089 posts since Jan '05
    • hey, dun be so angry can?

      I already say i am not disrespecting him liao. I admit he has to go through a tough times to come with terms with his illness.

       

      I can emphatise more than most people because I frequently think about things that could go wrong in my life.

       

      My question is. Do i have a right to say that he is superstitious on internet forum. Well, internet forum is known to be a place where people are more critical and straightforward about their views.

       

      Looks like it is you who are being too emotional here.

    • Originally posted by Rock^Star:

      Whats ur fucking problem? He's got muscular atrophy and ur running him down?

       

      Get a life, u fucktard, son of a xxxxx and shithead imbecile, half wit and dumb ass crap. angel.png

       

      You need some mental help going by all those philosophical posts of yours, not sgforums.

      I am not running him down. I know he is unlucky to get this illness. I really feel that you are uncivilised in the forum by say


      "Get a life, u fucktard, son of a xxxxx and shithead imbecile, half wit and dumb ass crap"

  • Rock^Star's Avatar
    11,142 posts since Jul '05
    • You need some mental help, my friend....anyway fuck is a word found in the Oxford dictionary and it's part of my vocab.

       

      angel.png

  • tr@nsp0rt_F3V3R's Avatar
    3,054 posts since Jul '08
  • onigiri's Avatar
    150 posts since Jul '08
    • i don't think he is stupid nor do i feel that it is bad for him to be a christian. he is just trying to find something to cling onto, so that he can continue to live on with his illness. some people may have been so upset upon knowing that they are down with this illness that they cannot find the courage and strength to live on anymore. as long as it helps him to move on with life and makes him feel stronger, why is he stupid and why does the fact that he is now a christian a bad thing? i do not belong to any religious group by the way. this is just my two cents' worth.

      Edited by onigiri 22 Dec `08, 1:01AM
  • cathykitty's Avatar
    254 posts since Nov '08
    • Originally posted by january:

      after reading the reports of his supertitious past, i find that he is quite stupid, for an adult. That is the problem of being supertitious, religious.

       

      ANyway, he now is probably a firm christian, after he found strength in god. To me, this is bad because he will get nowhere following this pathHe will probably be happier if he adopt atheism beliefs.

       

      atheism teach you that life is not about 'you, you and more you'. Hence, when crisis happens to you, you will not ask the stupid question

       

      "why is this happening to me?"

       

      Well, I am not disrespecting chew chow meng or laughing at him. I admit hisncurable illness is a bad thing. To me, as an atheist, one must be prepared for bad things in life, and one must be knowledgable about what is happening in the world, including those bad things. When one is open minded, he will become more mature. Then he will understand why such bad things happen. By natural causes, not god testing you kinda of reasongs.

      that is ur own belief la. religion does help pple who have difficulties in life to be more at peace. in fact, an impt question tt social workers and psychologists ask when they approach someone wif a problem is: do you have any spiritual beliefs?

      it's proven tt having a spiritual outlook in life (no matter what religion) helps a person to be more at peace with himself and to be more satisfied and contented with their lives. contrary to what u said, religion can also help chew chor meng to avoid bemoaning his fate and wondering "why is this happening to me?"

      as a christian, he can avoid the "why" question if he believes tt his fate is in the hands of god. and it's similar for other religions as well. for instance, a buddhist who has difficulties can also avoid the "why" question, if he believes tt what happens to him in his life is but a part of his own karma accumulated from past lives.

      i feel tt maybe u need to find out more abt the various religions before u discredit them and advocate atheism.. of course, u are free to share ur views on an internet forum. however, if u really were not "disrespecting" chew chor meng's choice as u claim, then why did u say "i think he is quite stupid" in ur first post? do u tink calling someone stupid is respectful? :/

  • Plastic Bag's Avatar
    1,563 posts since Sep '07
    • People turn to religion in times like this for mental strength to carry on with their lives. Chew Chor Meng definitely deserves far more sympathy than this. It's not like his problem is self-inflicted.

      You need some growing up to do even before you start attacking religions.

      I may be agnostic but your post is totally unwarranted.

      Edited by Plastic Bag 22 Dec `08, 1:26AM
  • googoomuck's Avatar
    3,355 posts since Feb '06
    • January claim to be an atheist but would not take up the challenge to sign a pact with Satan....hehehehe

      That makes him a pseudo-atheist.biggrin.png

  • Arkansaw's Avatar
    238 posts since Apr '08
    • actually the concept of satan is only applicable to christians….atheists dont actually have any religious text to follow

  • googoomuck's Avatar
    3,355 posts since Feb '06
    • Originally posted by Arkansaw:

      actually the concept of satan is only applicable to christians….atheists dont actually have any religious text to follow

      You must sign a pact which involves blood or other human fluids. The pact with instructions and ritual packs are sold online.

      See your life change after signing the pact.biggrin.png

      Since January does not believe in religion and ridicules Christianity, no harm will come to him if he just sign the pact with Satan to prove he is a real atheist. Otherwise, it shows that he's apprehensive.

      Edited by googoomuck 22 Dec `08, 3:37AM
  • furb's Avatar
    600 posts since Jan '07
    • Originally posted by googoomuck:
      You must sign a pact which involves blood or other human fluids. The pact with instructions and ritual packs are sold online.

      See your life change after signing the pact.biggrin.png

      Since January does not believe in religion and ridicules Christianity, no harm will come to him if he just sign the pact with Satan to prove he is a real atheist. Otherwise, it shows that he's apprehensive.

      Are you telling me that one can only become real atheist by signing a pact with satan when one does not even believe in such things in the first place? Now that's what I call contradict.

      I personally do not believe in god since I never met one anyway + I don't really give a damn about it, but I neither promote Atheist/Agnostic nor diss religion. It's your right to believe in whatever you want after all.

      But one interesting thing is when you ask them why do they believe in god, most of them wouldn't be able to answer. Some start quoting from the bible, some would say it give them strength or something and some would keep repeating what they have said but in a different manner.

       

      Edited by furb 22 Dec `08, 4:23AM
  • sbs8104h's Avatar
    2,353 posts since Nov '08
    • it depends on you. you can choose to believe it or not. All Choices Is made By YOURSELF. people can guide you. Ultamately, you make the final decision.

  • Hwaimeng's Avatar
    1,059 posts since Apr '08
    • Originally posted by january:

      after reading the reports of his supertitious past, i find that he is quite stupid, for an adult. That is the problem of being supertitious, religious.

       

      ANyway, he now is probably a firm christian, after he found strength in god. To me, this is bad because he will get nowhere following this pathHe will probably be happier if he adopt atheism beliefs.

       

      atheism teach you that life is not about 'you, you and more you'. Hence, when crisis happens to you, you will not ask the stupid question

       

      "why is this happening to me?"

       

      Well, I am not disrespecting chew chow meng or laughing at him. I admit hisncurable illness is a bad thing. To me, as an atheist, one must be prepared for bad things in life, and one must be knowledgable about what is happening in the world, including those bad things. When one is open minded, he will become more mature. Then he will understand why such bad things happen. By natural causes, not god testing you kinda of reasongs.


       find that he is quite stupid - u already call him stupid that mean u already disagreed with him in the way he seeking help

      you will not ask the stupid question"why is this happening to me?"

      my mum ask the same question when she was diagnosis with late stage cancer

      so u mean my mum is stupid also ???

      most of the terminal illness patient wil ask the same thing "why is this happening to me?"

      i dare u to look up to the sky and say to the sky, those ppl that ask "why is this happening to me?" is stupid.

      Y not u tio cancer or some major illness and maybe then u will understand how a person feel when u know u receive yr death sentence.

      according to medical report Chow ming will be paralyse slowly which in 10 to 20 years time he will became totally paralyse but horrible part is this illness is different from old man illness where they lose their sensibility thus resulting they themselves dont know wat is happening

      but for Chow Ming case he different

      he will lose his ability to walk, talk , move in the end but he still mantain his sensibility

      that mean he still know wat is going around him but he unable to control his movement or anything at all.

      u have no ideal how horrible his furture is going to be.

      dont post stupid command unless u have a deep understand on wat is happening. thanks

       

       

       

       

      Edited by Hwaimeng 22 Dec `08, 9:11AM
  • dukedracula's Avatar
    766 posts since Feb '08
    • almost every believe is a religion, even atheism, given how some would go all the way just to defend there is no god…..

      i was a christian but that was donkeys years ago..i now subscribe to universality….but that’s a story for another day…

      folks turn to religion primarily to seek comfort or are influenced to turn away from the vices they previously succumbed to….

      the actor was probably devastated when he discover his illness and perhaps chose to seek comfort in the christian faith…so be it…..there’s no need to belittle it…

      the word satan was originally to describe non-conforming believes during the time when christianity was the accepted faith in europe during the days of old…it wasn’t about the person of evil….it was later conveniently used to illustrate as the devil personified….

      those with religion or those without should just live their own lives, do good and let live….

  • No9's Avatar
    626 posts since Jun '05
  • popmynutsy's Avatar
    4,026 posts since Dec '05
    • u are saying all this cause u are a atheist.

      atheist say atheist got reason.

      christian say christian got reason.

      u shouldnt be posting ur comments just cause u have a different thinking.

  • googoomuck's Avatar
    3,355 posts since Feb '06
    • Originally posted by furb:

      Are you telling me that one can only become real atheist by signing a pact with satan when one does not even believe in such things in the first place? Now that's what I call contradict.

      I personally do not believe in god since I never met one anyway + I don't really give a damn about it, but I neither promote Atheist/Agnostic nor diss religion. It's your right to believe in whatever you want after all.

      But one interesting thing is when you ask them why do they believe in god, most of them wouldn't be able to answer. Some start quoting from the bible, some would say it give them strength or something and some would keep repeating what they have said but in a different manner.

       

      I don't know what you are talking about? How is the challenge contradictory?

      I'm referring to January who claims to be an atheist but yet studied physics where most theorums were discovered by scientists who were also Christians.  The bible is not a text book about physics  but there's harmony between science and the bible. Otherwise those Christian scientists would had renounced their religion.

      No God also means no devil. January's claim to be an atheist is none of my business but he taunts Christians as though his belief is superior.

      If he accepts the challenge to sign the pact, he can prove once and for all his steadfastness in his belief and also convince us that there's no God, no devil. If the devil exists, his life will change. Mere words will not conjure the devil. It requires some form of rituals.

       

  • Chin Eng's Avatar
    6,169 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by january:

      My question is. Do i have a right to say that he is superstitious on internet forum. Well, internet forum is known to be a place where people are more critical and straightforward about their views.


      well, from I am reading from the papers, Chor Meng is certainly NOT being superstitious. I think he has already said that he will let God do what He sees fit.

      the internet forum IS a place where people are more critical and straightforward about their views...

      so my view of you is that you constantly run down anyone who claims that they have found God - which of course you are free to express....

      ... but please refrain from putting labels on another person even though this other person's philosophy is not your cup of tea.

  • zaxis's Avatar
    2,015 posts since Dec '04
    • he should not be saying negative of another reliegion @ another religion place

      what he did is not correct.

      or not his fault is media fault

      media usually blow up stories

       

  • january's Avatar
    2,089 posts since Jan '05
    • googlemuck is strange.

       

      WHy must he insist me in signing what kind of pact with satan. I dun recall reading atheists have to sign what pact in order to become atheists. strange.

       

      atheist are just people who dun believe in god and supernatural and they are believe in scientific way of inquiring knowledge. They dun like to jump to conclusion and claim knowledge too quickly.

       

      Strange. To me there is no god, no devil. I dun believe in satan anyway. Satan , god , ghost can all come and find me to communicate. i would like to meet and learn things from them.

      Edited by january 22 Dec `08, 11:41PM
    • Originally posted by Chin Eng:


      well, from I am reading from the papers, Chor Meng is certainly NOT being superstitious. I think he has already said that he will let God do what He sees fit.

      the internet forum IS a place where people are more critical and straightforward about their views...

      so my view of you is that you constantly run down anyone who claims that they have found God - which of course you are free to express....

      ... but please refrain from putting labels on another person even though this other person's philosophy is not your cup of tea.


      chew meng was superstitious in the past by going to those chinese medium and dieties stuff and doing all those kind of rules in order to bring wealth and solve his medical problems. He himself said he was superstitious, not only me.

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