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  • DarkKnightRising's Avatar
    12 posts since Apr '13
    • Sorry, couldn't find this in any of the topics here...so appreciate if anybody can advise

      What's the typical arrangment? Just verbal agreement?

      Also, if things don't work out between hirer and relief, what is the standard notice period to terminate the agreement?

       

       

      Thanks

      Just passed out newbie

  • Ct2220's Avatar
    3,270 posts since May '11
  • bowah's Avatar
    17,376 posts since Jun '10
    • The key is trust, once got no trust, smlj also no need to talk.

      Hirer and relief relationship built on trust and the market condition, if the market whereby relief are on high demand, which is alway the case, then it is the relief market, hirer hv to give way abit, sayang relief and make it easy for relief, but there are times, whereby it is the hirer market, whereby too many relief cannot find hirer, very rare, unless economy goes down, then you see Hirer more yaya papaya.

      This agreement is alway on verbal, and that imply trust, once that is not there, relief can throw key, hirer can tell relief off, no need what period of notice unless you still want to maintain that relationship, like neighbours, everyday see and met each other, then better to nicely separate so as to leave room for future greeting and friendship.

      Some hirers knn, write their own rules and regulation nicely printed on a piece of paper and ask me to sign..I tell them go fark spider.

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    Angwk7118's Avatar
    1,741 posts since Aug '11
    • bro CT pai say lah,

      i just realised that the information about hirer and relief agreement is very limited at the newbie thread

      the information on this is very little and spread out among the different thread

      let members contribute a bit here and i gather the info and update on the newbie thread

    • 1. most common shift timing

      a 4am-4pm or vice vs
      b 5am-5pm or vice vs
      c. 6am-6pm or vice vs

      other timing subject to both hirer/relief acceptance

      2. rental

      a, normally split half or subject to both hirer/relief acceptance

      3. incentives

      only if you day full 7days a week than you can request to share

      4. washing of vehicle

      a subject to both hirer/relief

      normally night shift must wash car

      5. off days/sick/holiday

                              subject to both hirer/relief
                              

      some hirer/relief will cover their partner half day should anyone is sick or away on holiday

      6. Topup diesel

      by mileage or to return full tank

      rate by mileage different by individual
      full tan, check what it means by full tank

      any other wish to contribute please add on

  • Red5xx's Avatar
    2,592 posts since May '10
    • Originally posted by bowah:

      The key is trust, once got no trust, smlj also no need to talk.

      Hirer and relief relationship built on trust and the market condition, if the market whereby relief are on high demand, which is alway the case, then it is the relief market, hirer hv to give way abit, sayang relief and make it easy for relief, but there are times, whereby it is the hirer market, whereby too many relief cannot find hirer, very rare, unless economy goes down, then you see Hirer more yaya papaya.

      This agreement is alway on verbal, and that imply trust, once that is not there, relief can throw key, hirer can tell relief off, no need what period of notice unless you still want to maintain that relationship, like neighbours, everyday see and met each other, then better to nicely separate so as to leave room for future greeting and friendship.

      Some hirers knn, write their own rules and regulation nicely printed on a piece of paper and ask me to sign..I tell them go fark spider.

      u so scare topic tio lock...icon_lol.gif  

  • Samsun's Avatar
    377 posts since Dec '12
    • yes. trust most impt.

      cannot kay kao (count too much)....if you win, the other party lose.

      no win-win bs one.

      both are tying to make a living....make do abit.

      as a relief myself, i always respect the hirer's decisions and rules. anything is best to ask and say out....better than ASS-u-ME

  • DarkKnightRising's Avatar
    12 posts since Apr '13
    • Originally posted by bowah:

      The key is trust, once got no trust, smlj also no need to talk.

      Hirer and relief relationship built on trust and the market condition, if the market whereby relief are on high demand, which is alway the case, then it is the relief market, hirer hv to give way abit, sayang relief and make it easy for relief, but there are times, whereby it is the hirer market, whereby too many relief cannot find hirer, very rare, unless economy goes down, then you see Hirer more yaya papaya.

      This agreement is alway on verbal, and that imply trust, once that is not there, relief can throw key, hirer can tell relief off, no need what period of notice unless you still want to maintain that relationship, like neighbours, everyday see and met each other, then better to nicely separate so as to leave room for future greeting and friendship.

      Some hirers knn, write their own rules and regulation nicely printed on a piece of paper and ask me to sign..I tell them go fark spider.

      Fully understooded. Thanks.

    • Originally posted by Angwk7118:

      bro CT pai say lah,

      i just realised that the information about hirer and relief agreement is very limited at the newbie thread

      the information on this is very little and spread out among the different thread

      let members contribute a bit here and i gather the info and update on the newbie thread

      Thanks for understanding and not locking. I actually read almost all in newbie section but couldn't find any info on agreement.

  • bowah's Avatar
    17,376 posts since Jun '10
    • Originally posted by Red5xx:

      u so scare topic tio lock...icon_lol.gif  


      Ya lor, nowaday, mods anyhow luan luan lock, if not he got too many locks no use..how? place it on great wall of china?

      Taxi driving is a very individual one man job, and as human, we tends to have blaming culture within us, if it is team of 10 or 20 in a company dept, it become so called office politics, he blame her, they blame him, end with with tribes and clans from shaolin and wu tang...so on.

      As taxi driver stand alone, and the only person to put word is his partner, it is a natural sense of human that even relief clean up the whole vehicle, hirer will in silence or open said that why this is not clean and that is not thrown, or that even fuel is top up as per instruction, one of them will alway feel the other is cheating him. It might, or it might not, but in TD partner relationship, there lies the line of boundary that both will tend to cross at times.

      And it is right to say that to get a good relief or good hirer is much difficult then finding a good wife, however, some do partner each other for 20 years and above, some just one day only..give up liao. 

  • Poolman's Avatar
    39,696 posts since Oct '03
  • j007's Avatar
    3,144 posts since Oct '02
    • Take note some hirer thinks they are boss, owner of car, push his weight around.

      if cannot agree to terms, don't even start. Along the way, anything not sure, trash it out.

      its a PARTNERSHIP to ease the cost burden of a hirer and both got a chance to make $ as a TD.

       

      NOT A BOSS EMPLOYEE RELATIONSHIP

      Edited by j007 23 Apr `13, 9:08PM
  • Poolman's Avatar
    39,696 posts since Oct '03
  • j007's Avatar
    3,144 posts since Oct '02
  • hammerhammer8888's Avatar
    5,256 posts since Jul '10
    • Hirer used to be king leh....can suka suka pok relief one....but hor nowadays like relief is king....sometimes haven't start driving pok hirer liao....not hear say....from horse mouth....icon_sad.gif

  • Poolman's Avatar
    39,696 posts since Oct '03
    • Originally posted by hammerhammer8888:

      Hirer used to be king leh....can suka suka pok relief one....but hor nowadays like relief is king....sometimes haven't start driving pok hirer liao....not hear say....from horse mouth....icon_sad.gif


      When I first started , hirer is King ...

      After the entry of TransCab , Premier , etc etc ...

      Relief is King , so many to chose from .

      As long as u sweep road , any taxi will do .

  • DarkKnightRising's Avatar
    12 posts since Apr '13
    • Maybe relief is really king now....

      Contacted one SMRT hirer near my place yesterday regarding his posting in cabby.sg. Nice guy, came by to meet me even though we could have just talked on the phone, bought me coffee and since he done for the day even drove me all to the way from Serangoon to Woodlands to try to expedite my tvdl (since i just passed last week). Sad to say, SMRT once hear I relief only and not taking a taxi asked me to wait for LTA letter. Haizzz

      Anyway, more or less settled with him. Just waiting for LTA letter only. Will be on 5pm-5am shift Mon to Sat. Hope to have supper with you guys if you have time once i OTR.

  • Samsun's Avatar
    377 posts since Dec '12
    • Originally posted by DarkKnightRising:

      Maybe relief is really king now....

      Contacted one SMRT hirer near my place yesterday regarding his posting in cabby.sg. Nice guy, came by to meet me even though we could have just talked on the phone, bought me coffee and since he done for the day even drove me all to the way from Serangoon to Woodlands to try to expedite my tvdl (since i just passed last week). Sad to say, SMRT once hear I relief only and not taking a taxi asked me to wait for LTA letter. Haizzz

      Anyway, more or less settled with him. Just waiting for LTA letter only. Will be on 5pm-5am shift Mon to Sat. Hope to have supper with you guys if you have time once i OTR.

      dun say relief king lah....haha....

      just that nowadays, rental sibeh high, so better for hirer to find a relief to relieve the pain mah.....

      some hirers even want 7 days relief.....haha....$50 rental from relief a day means $1500 into the pocket leh (or throw to taxi companies to cover rental)..... who don't want?

      everything before deal, all swee swee one...talk is easy and free....

  • Terry Young's Avatar
    458 posts since Oct '11
    • Originally posted by DarkKnightRising:

      Maybe relief is really king now....

      Contacted one SMRT hirer near my place yesterday regarding his posting in cabby.sg. Nice guy, came by to meet me even though we could have just talked on the phone, bought me coffee and since he done for the day even drove me all to the way from Serangoon to Woodlands to try to expedite my tvdl (since i just passed last week). Sad to say, SMRT once hear I relief only and not taking a taxi asked me to wait for LTA letter. Haizzz

      Anyway, more or less settled with him. Just waiting for LTA letter only. Will be on 5pm-5am shift Mon to Sat. Hope to have supper with you guys if you have time once i OTR.

      relax take your time, this 2 weeks is not good for newbie otr cos lull.

      enjoy your free time now, once start you too tired for free time already.

  • DarkKnightRising's Avatar
    12 posts since Apr '13
    • Originally posted by Terry Young:

      relax take your time, this 2 weeks is not good for newbie otr cos lull.

      enjoy your free time now, once start you too tired for free time already.

      Thanks for the advice.

    • my relief asked for black n white agreemt to avoid misunderstanding/forget leh…i also think better…then can give n take from this basic agreemt..

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    Angwk7118's Avatar
    1,741 posts since Aug '11
    • Got black and white so what?

      Can use in court?

      Cannot click just break off lor.

      Find until can click one.

      My relief I only talk over phone until meet in office and start

      The shortest relief is one day and out he go

  • fifufu's Avatar
    294 posts since Nov '05
    • This one saw at company diesel kiosk today..a lot of tds there see leow also shake head.

      Not sure if it is a hirer / relief thingy but what I felt is, some disagreeable over topping up of fuel with his hirer or whatsoever hence he does what he did.

      This guy took more than 20mins to fill up. He manual pump then use torch light shine and see, then drip drip drip without pressing anything..then press a little bit, shine and see then drip drip..keep doing that..when you think he is done..he go shake his vehicle...and do the same thing again..somemore never off vehicle.

      Anyway, if this guy, who don't look very healthy is OMO...think better for him not to drive anymore.

      And if got partner, have to do until like this..also better not to drive..

      I tell my relief..just auto pump..twat leow can already..

       

    • Originally posted by Angwk7118:

      Got black and white so what?

      Can use in court?

      Cannot click just break off lor.

      Find until can click one.

      My relief I only talk over phone until meet in office and start

      The shortest relief is one day and out he go


      aiya. ..my relief old man...always forget this forget that then come ask me....hv black n white easier mah....its still a gentlemen agreemt. ...not for court use lah...tds got.money go to court meh?...then also can cham siong wan....like tat time he hospitalised n afterthat 2 months cant drive....i told him no need pay anything wait for him to come back...

  • Poolman's Avatar
    39,696 posts since Oct '03
    • even if got agreement , state the few important one .

      1.No owing of rental

      2.Night driver no attending to service

      3. In the event vehicle breakdown , pro rated of taxi rental must be fulfill . Start 5pm , vehicle broke down 8pm , relief must pay 3 hours of rental . As of agreed rental divided by 12 hours .

      4.Anyone to go extra off days besides regular off day , to subsidise $25 per day rental

       

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