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  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,305 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by vicamour:

      Well, it just started. I believe that they do not want an area to be served by one operator only but at least two different operators in one area.

      Surely have to give them more time to learn their lessons, right?

      They have already set their hearts to do it. What can we really do now?

      Service standards are bad in the past, many people complaining. Now service standards are improving, why still complaining? 

      Having a bigger fleet means more flexibilities and possibilities that can happen to react to changing situations. I think this is what they want to achieve. 

      You still see SBST/SMRT monopolies in their territories don't you?No matter how you improve ppl still complain,That's life in Singapore.

  • SBLCleasing's Avatar
    2 posts since Jul '17
  • Path Light's Avatar
    1,479 posts since Feb '15
    • Originally posted by vicamour:

      I have seen the floor plan before. It looks smaller with lesser lots.

      858 route and deployment itself is already a problem. I already stated all the solutions but he keep on insisting his own problems on his own solutions. If every airport service demands a bendy fleet as the only solution, think the bus queue may stretch and delay the whole airport. 

      Maybe 972 has higher loadings these days compared to 190, but 190 still continues to come frequently. At least now no one complains can't board 190 anymore.

      Madness or you want to see more people complaining about the frequencies of those services?

       

      How many parking lots at Yishun Bus Interchange ITH?

  • SMB145B's Avatar
    2,169 posts since Dec '12
    • Originally posted by vicamour:

      902 will probably be redundant once the Thomson line is up.

       

      ah no.

      what if thomson line breaks down?

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    1,165 posts since Dec '09
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    2 posts since Jul '17
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  • vicamour's Avatar
    1,475 posts since Jan '09
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Seriously,The package itself have too many flaws.Svc that doesnt serve more home ground also can be included into that particular package,Wasted more fuel to Os to the other side.Afterall the planners is just human being.They should revamp the bus packages for good in future.

      Well, it just started. I believe that they do not want an area to be served by one operator only but at least two different operators in one area.

      Surely have to give them more time to learn their lessons, right?

      They have already set their hearts to do it. What can we really do now?

      Service standards are bad in the past, many people complaining. Now service standards are improving, why still complaining? 

      Having a bigger fleet means more flexibilities and possibilities that can happen to react to changing situations. I think this is what they want to achieve. 

      Edited by vicamour 19 Jul `17, 8:22PM
  • vicamour's Avatar
    1,475 posts since Jan '09
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      902 can just extend to ply republic crescent 

      Seriously it's not needed and redundant. It's faster and cheaper to walk to the MRT station instead.

      Would it be better to start from Woodlands North ITH and ply as a feeder to relieve the loads of those intra town services like 912, 913 instead? 

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,305 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by vicamour:

      It's not about hate or not. It's more about the operating suitability and changes in the operating environment. 

      We are no longer in the environment that operators are fixated at particular models. It has come to a point that number of buses depends on the demands of the package of services and standard fleets allows such transitions to be easier and flexible, rather than setting more rules and make operations more difficult. 

      Seriously,The package itself have too many flaws.Svc that doesnt serve more home ground also can be included into that particular package😂😂😂,Wasted more fuel to Os to the other side.Afterall the planners is just human being.They should revamp the bus packages for good in future.

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  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,305 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      Push for testing :)

      I think DDs will do well on 386.

      386 got total of 7 duties for Am/split duty and 6 Pm/split.Only 84/381/382 will do interlining.

      Best is to deploy 4 Citaro and 3 B9TL.

      My suggestion for PGL svc will be

      Svc 3:13 SD / 7 DD

      Svc 34:15 SD & 34M(loop at Ctrl 1 after serve Opp Hub) using 4 DD / 2 SD.

      Svc 43:15 DD / 5 SD & 43M 3 DD / 3 SD

      Svc 62:16 DD / 4 SD

      Svc 82:6 SD / 2 DD(loading increased)

      Svc 83:5 DD / 3 SD

      Svc 84:Renumbered to 384,3 SD.

      Svc 85:11 DD / 3 SD

      Svc 118:Full DD,Only weekends a mix of couple SD

      Svc 119:Full SD

      Svc 136:15 SD / 3 DD

      Svc 381:5 SD

      Svc 382G/W:6 SD

      Svc 386:4 SD / 3 DD

  • Path Light's Avatar
    1,479 posts since Feb '15
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    1,479 posts since Feb '15
    • SMB237U on Service 187: Blk 441 > Opposite Bukit Batok Fire Station

      SG5417L on Service 187: Bukit Batok Fire Station > Blk 457

  • vicamour's Avatar
    1,475 posts since Jan '09
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      I don't think LTA hates bendy,Its just that they want to minimise.Who knows in future what's their planning?

      Seriously if i am the Transport Minister,I will urge short distance and airport svc to use bendy buses.For Airport svc the ratio should be 5 SD-1 BD sequence and it would be at control rate.No mid or long haul trunk nor express svc can use bendy.

      It's not about hate or not. It's more about the operating suitability and changes in the operating environment. 

      We are no longer in the environment that operators are fixated at particular models. It has come to a point that number of buses depends on the demands of the package of services and standard fleets allows such transitions to be easier and flexible, rather than setting more rules and make operations more difficult. 

  • Marvel68's Avatar
    217 posts since Oct '14
    • Lol this actually happened to me a few years back...

      So I was on 16 along Old Airport Rd with my friend and y'all know how there is an emergency hammer between the rear facing seats at the rear of Citaros.So my friend (who was sitting at the window seat) somehow had accidently detached the emergency hammer from the holder and idk but this somehow triggered an alarm to the BC I think and the BC lost his cool at us and started hurling vulgarities at me and my friend for detaching the emergency thinking we were playing punk despite me and my friend apologizing and trying to explain to him that it was an accident. He even threatened us to a fight and claimed that my face was 'provoking him' before eventually storming off back to his seat. Me and my friend were like WTF and we were also damn paiseh at that time as there were other pax on board giving us the 'look'. 

      After we alighted the BC drove away and he turned behind giving us the scorn look... I contemplated giving feedback to SBST about that asshole BC but eventually let it slide. Maybe job too stressful for BC but he was still being a dick though. After that incident I temporarily avoided taking 16 fearing I might run into the 'hooligan' BC again...

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,305 posts since Nov '03
    • But definately will he slugging for the second and third gear..LTA already restricted the 1st/2nd gear for ZF6 speed,SBST would continue the 3rd gear

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,305 posts since Nov '03
  • vicamour's Avatar
    1,475 posts since Jan '09
    • Originally posted by SMB145B:

      let's see

      TPE (Towards SLE/CTE)

      Exit 6 - Halus Link (Punggol Central; Towards PIE, use Exit 8; future), KPE (ECP, PIE) (Towards PIE, use Exit 7)
      Exit 9 - Punggol Road
      Exit 10 - Sengkang East Road, Punggol Way

      CTE (Towards SLE)

      Exit 11 - AMK Ave 1
      Exit 12A - AMK Ave 3 (Towards AYE, use Exit 14)
      Exit 12B - AMK Ave 5 (Towards AYE, use Exit 14)

       

      There aren't any new exit for drivers coming from the east heading to Sengkang.

      the jams on TPE stretches from Tampines Ave 12/Pasir Ris Dr 8 to KPE exit while CTE is from Braddell Road to AMK Ave 1.

      If you look at the directional basis, TPE jams is caused by the chokepoint at Punggol Road exit that stretches till Tampines Ave 12, if go towards SLE. That is why exits to Sengkang East /Punggol East is needed to divert the traffic away from Punggol Road exits. 

      CTE wise is caused by the chokepoint at Ang Mo Kio Ave 3 exit, that stretches to Braddell Rd exits, if you go towards SLE.

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    8,972 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by vicamour:

      902 will probably be redundant once the Thomson line is up.

       


      ya true to that

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,305 posts since Nov '03
    • Deployment of svc 3 DD for Pm shift is crap,Back to back DD around 1850hrs-1857hrs and the 1904 SD is full to the max.Thats what you get for hiring too many useless and ignorant ppl at the management department 

  • vicamour's Avatar
    1,475 posts since Jan '09
    • Originally posted by TIB 585L:


      cant imagine 902 have DDs, i wonder how long will it take to leave the berth with 100% load as compared to a 3 door bendies and also alighting from DD n bendy POV

      902 will probably be redundant once the Thomson line is up.

       

      Originally posted by SMB145B:

      let's see

      TPE (Towards SLE/CTE)

      Exit 6 - Halus Link (Punggol Central; Towards PIE, use Exit 8; future), KPE (ECP, PIE) (Towards PIE, use Exit 7)
      Exit 9 - Punggol Road
      Exit 10 - Sengkang East Road, Punggol Way

      CTE (Towards SLE)

      Exit 11 - AMK Ave 1
      Exit 12A - AMK Ave 3 (Towards AYE, use Exit 14)
      Exit 12B - AMK Ave 5 (Towards AYE, use Exit 14)

       

      There aren't any new exit for drivers coming from the east heading to Sengkang.

      the jams on TPE stretches from Tampines Ave 12/Pasir Ris Dr 8 to KPE exit while CTE is from Braddell Road to AMK Ave 1.


  • carbikebus's Avatar
    19,305 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by SMB145B:

      since LTA just hates bendies so much, i think 902 would be full fleet rigids.

      I don't think LTA hates bendy,Its just that they want to minimise.Who knows in future what's their planning?

      Seriously if i am the Transport Minister,I will urge short distance and airport svc to use bendy buses.For Airport svc the ratio should be 5 SD-1 BD sequence and it would be at control rate.No mid or long haul trunk nor express svc can use bendy.

  • AntiDennisLance's Avatar
    1,017 posts since Jul '03
    • 19 Jul 2017

      Unidentified BIG EYES 口_______口 (i.e. SG58XX) A95 on 851. Outside Lee Ah Mooi Nursing Home twd BMI at 6:31pm.

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    8,972 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by SMB145B:

      since LTA just hates bendies so much, i think 902 would be full fleet rigids.


      yeah maybe add more buses