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  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,588 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by TIB 585L:


      i wonder what reason until change depot No wonder lately i see a makcik with tudung driving 858 plus some new faces. New BCs learn 858 power ah lately quite alot of BC learn bendy when bendy are phasing out

      AM BCs bo bian because no feeder svc for them..Pass out straight away learn 853,854,855,858,859,882,883,965 & 966 which to me is very risky.

      They should at least drive 859/A/B,882,883 for a start.

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    9,284 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Can request change depot mah..Package doesn’t always include BCs what.I knew a few ex-AM 61,67 & 985 also follow KJ when in fact they doesn’t even stay around Northwest area.Some of ex 965,966 & 980 also went back to Wldep.


      i wonder what reason until change depot No wonder lately i see a makcik with tudung driving 858 plus some new faces. New BCs learn 858 power ah lately quite alot of BC learn bendy when bendy are phasing out

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,588 posts since Nov '03
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,588 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by TIB 585L:


      I realize some 858 BCs driving woodlands feeders now Can change package meh?

      Can request change depot mah..Package doesn’t always include BCs what.I knew a few ex-AM 61,67 & 985 also follow KJ when in fact they doesn’t even stay around Northwest area.Some of ex 965,966 & 980 also went back to Wldep.

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    9,284 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Most of them stay in the east mah..


      I realize some 858 BCs driving woodlands feeders now Can change package meh?

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,588 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by CB2883J:

      Personally, though, for the Citaro issue I would only put half the blame on lobbyists. It is one thing to take in positive feedback on the Citaro and order a batch of units, and it is another thing to keep ordering them when better alternatives have emerged rendering the Citaro no longer the top choice. The former can be blamed on lobbyists, although I am not sure it is entirely a bad thing worthy of blame. The latter, is it really due to lobbyists petitioning LTA to keep on buying Citaros?

      I think LTA only follow of what the 2 incumbent operators specification and also based on reliability,ease of parts and also cost.

      Citaro & B9TL follow SBST

      A22,A95 & Enviro500 follow SMRT.

  • CB2883J's Avatar
    394 posts since Sep '15
    • Originally posted by sgbuses:

      Where do you think LTA took their inspiration from then?

      As far as past news report goes, LTA has studied Perth and London. Neither uses colour EDS (flip-dot EDS, white LED EDS and rolling blinds).

      The word goes that most of the "inspiration" was taken from the two MAN concept buses which went on road trials.

      TT's SG5999Z survey explicitly asked one question about the colour EDS! Guess who were the majority who answered the survey? What do you think the result for that question turned out to be?

      Not hard to imagine where LTA was "inspired" and "encouraged" about the results of three-door demonstrators to order 100 more, amongst other features!

      About a decade ago SMRT conducted a survey about SMB136C and the viability of Citaros. Guess how many Citaros are on the roads today? What are the recent comments about these Citaros these days?

      History is repeating itself.

      Personally, though, for the Citaro issue I would only put half the blame on lobbyists. It is one thing to take in positive feedback on the Citaro and order a batch of units, and it is another thing to keep ordering them when better alternatives have emerged rendering the Citaro no longer the top choice. The former can be blamed on lobbyists, although I am not sure it is entirely a bad thing worthy of blame. The latter, is it really due to lobbyists petitioning LTA to keep on buying Citaros?

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,588 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by TIB 585L:


      ever since 969 park at WLBP Saw some ex 858 965 BC driving 969 now Then those who drove 969 while parking in Loyang drove 110 now

      Most of them stay in the east mah..

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    9,284 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Today almost half at Amdep


      ever since 969 park at WLBP Saw some ex 858 965 BC driving 969 now Then those who drove 969 while parking in Loyang drove 110 now

  • CB2883J's Avatar
    394 posts since Sep '15
    • Originally posted by sgbuses:

      Where do you think LTA took their inspiration from then?

      As far as past news report goes, LTA has studied Perth and London. Neither uses colour EDS (flip-dot EDS, white LED EDS and rolling blinds).

      The word goes that most of the "inspiration" was taken from the two MAN concept buses which went on road trials.

      TT's SG5999Z survey explicitly asked one question about the colour EDS! Guess who were the majority who answered the survey? What do you think the result for that question turned out to be?

      Not hard to imagine where LTA was "inspired" and "encouraged" about the results of three-door demonstrators to order 100 more, amongst other features!

      About a decade ago SMRT conducted a survey about SMB136C and the viability of Citaros. Guess how many Citaros are on the roads today? What are the recent comments about these Citaros these days?

      History is repeating itself.

      Ah okay, fair enough. I previously wasn’t clear on exactly how the bus lobbyists you speak of did their, well, lobbying. I think you've made yourself quite clear.

      Edited by CB2883J 22 May `18, 10:57PM
  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,588 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by TIB 585L:


      WLBP got alot of SMB Taros like the 855 ones. Most of them do 859. Woodlands 1 or 2.

      Today almost half at Amdep

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,588 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by TIB 585L:


      that one i realize since seletar took over. they wont suddenly take buses from yishun. They like have a pool of buses bouncing around woodlands, sembawang n yishun. Hardly cross over

      Wlbp almost everday also change buses..Some 169,965,966 & 969 duties also take buses from Amdep 

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    9,284 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Usually the cameos will be between Woodlands based svc,Sembawang and Sembawang and Yishun with Yishun.


      that one i realize since seletar took over. they wont suddenly take buses from yishun. They like have a pool of buses bouncing around woodlands, sembawang n yishun. Hardly cross over

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,588 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by TIB 585L:


      Ok but there is going to be alot of cameos even with perms around. So rojak, shld have juz put consecutive regos

      Usually the cameos will be between Woodlands based svc,Sembawang and Sembawang and Yishun with Yishun.

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    9,284 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      If you’re in doubt i can show you the roster from Monday and next week.


      Ok but there is going to be alot of cameos even with perms around. So rojak, shld have juz put consecutive regos

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
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  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,588 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by TIB 585L:


      the perms stated like doesnt tally with roster at all for most of it. Only some are correct

      If you’re in doubt i can show you the roster from Monday and next week.

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    9,284 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Like i say,Based on deployment roster for monthly.Last minute can change buses.859 have random Citaro also.


      WLBP got alot of SMB Taros like the 855 ones. Most of them do 859. Woodlands 1 or 2.

  • carbikebus's Avatar
    21,588 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by TIB 585L:


      1506L 5795U on 966 daily since Seletar 969 5516J to 5519B daily 965 1356 1357 1358 1362 1363 1365 1368 tend to do 965 alot 859 have alot of Taros leh not A22 Some of the perms like doesnt tally with my observation daily on WTBI

      Like i say,Based on deployment roster for monthly.Last minute can change buses.859 have random Citaro also.

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    9,284 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by SMB315C:

      Yup all along still have perm svcs just that they rotate the fleet very often..


      the perms stated like doesnt tally with roster at all for most of it. Only some are correct

  • TehJarVu's Avatar
    119,132 posts since Dec '03
    • heng heng 海南鸡饭


      talking of jiken rice
      nowadays i ask for white rice when buying jiken rice
      and think of mahathir who said when food is nice to eat it's when u need to stop eating kaoz

  • TIB 585L's Avatar
    9,284 posts since Apr '11
    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      963:SMB1326P,SMB1333T,SMB1334R,SMB1337H,SMB1365B

      SMB1367X,SMB1368T & SMB1379L.

      SMB3554J,SMB3567Y,SMB3568U,SMB3571J,SMB5062Z & SMB5073S.

      SG5742Y,SG5762P,SG5763L,SG5764J,SG5766D,SG5777Y,SG5783D

      SG5784B,SG5786X,SG5787T,SG5788R & SG5789M.

       

      965:SMB1339C,SMB1356C,SMB1357A,SMB1360P,SMB1361L,SMB1362J

      SMB1365B & SMB1367X.

      SMB3573D,SMB3574B,SMB3585S & SMB3589J.

       

      966:SMB1381D,SMB1391A,SMB1495J,SMB1517E & SMB1522P.

      SMB3596M,SMB3608M,SMB3609K,SMB5002Y,SMB5009J & SMB5034E.

      SG5790H & SG5791E.

       

      969:SMB1542G,SMB1558L,SMB1560D,SMB1561B,SMB1562Z.

      SG1045C & SG1047Y.

      SG5746L,SG5750Z,SG5751X,SG5752T,SG5805A,SG5820E & SG5821C.

      SG5504T,SG5505G,SG5517G & SG5519B

      SMB5043D.

      TIB1204E.


      1506L 5795U on 966 daily since Seletar 969 5516J to 5519B daily 965 1356 1357 1358 1362 1363 1365 1368 tend to do 965 alot 859 have alot of Taros leh not A22 Some of the perms like doesnt tally with my observation daily on WTBI

      Edited by TIB 585L 22 May `18, 10:30PM
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