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    • No research can be exhaustive.

      Speaking of which, none of us have seen the full research paper anyway.

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    • The fact: It takes 0.2 seconds per pax longer to disembark from a DD compared to SD.

      Did anyone even ask why in the world Prof Lee would use such a metric?

      Apparently not.

      The guess is simple: The method of using the length of time to disembark all pax divided by the number of pax is to normalise the length of time, against the bias that is the larger amount of people for the DD to disembark.

      In laymen terms, it means that DDs hold at bus-stops longer for reasons beyond that there are more pax.

      Using logic, it has to be the lay-out of the DD, coupled to the fact that pax has to walk more within the bus, to exit. Thus adding to the extra dwell-time.

      Prof Lee then understandably questions the wisdom of continuing the current layout, which is also a logical conclusion, and a legitimate question.

      But it inspires howls and wails and then irrelevantly gleeful discussions about what service should get what.

      If numbers are not your forte (nor fault of yours), and respect is not in your dictionary, then is it really the education system that is solely to blame for both at the same time?

      Please think about it.

      Edit: I re-read the article in case I sound stupid when I accuse others of thus. That's when I found the line in the article: The study was done based on an equal passenger to passenger ratio, to eliminate the expectation that a double-decker would have a longer dwelling time since it can hold more passengers.

      Guess the education did some good for me after all.

      Edited by SBS2601D 21 Jul `14, 8:53PM
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    • The fellow's main point was that our current DD layout is inefficient and archaic. Which many of you also said before what.......

       

      If anything, all that article serves to remind me was that my low opinion of sgforums was probably too high still. And asiaone was trying to get you guys to read by using such a lousy title, and you guys actually bought everything WITHOUT asking to read the ORIGINAL paper by Prof. Lee. Except one.

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      Edited by SBS2601D 19 Jul `14, 10:15AM
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    • Originally posted by Acx1688:

      2 yrs...

      Then my guess is that the PPSS is just a stop-gap measure.

      With competitive tender, elements like PPSS can be specified anyway and included in the contracts.

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    • Just aside from the fact that its only the first day of revenue service........

      There is nothing terribly wrong.

      Really.

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      Edited by SBS2601D 13 Jul `14, 10:08AM
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    • Originally posted by sinicker:

      quite disappointed with what I observe on 291P/293P/358P. a sad use of taxpayers' money.

      1. LTA insists PTOs getting low-floor, WAB buses. then now, with taxpayers' money, these private operators use such high floor buses. ppl with pram cannot board coz' even if they do board, their pram has to hog the aisle. the elderly has to climb 4-5 steps to get on the bus. but of course, during peak hours there are few commuters who have prams or are the elderly. either schoolchildren or the working crowd.....

      2. honestly, 358P? did the private operator stand to profit by using small buses or were they indeed allocated less $$ to operate 358P with the use of small buses.

      3. private operators using their buses with only 1 door. *facepalm*

      seems like a rushed effort, not thought through.

      Just this: GE2016.

      Not sure if such rush-rush efforts will really really help in the long-run like you pointed out.

      But what we do now is just a reflection of populist tactics in the wider world.

      But as a broader picture, I would think that the PPSS was a way to bolster pte bus operators' confidence in bidding for the future competitive tenders in the long future.

      Right now as you can see, its quite............

      I can only say I dont envy the poor fellow at LTA managing the PPSS stuff with directions from up there and there....and there.

       

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    • Ya man.

      Especially considering the amount of money they poured into the education system to churn out folks who do not use their brains when they type one-liners.

      Edited by SBS2601D 13 Jul `14, 9:42AM
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    • And there are those like myself who are mystified about all the hype and hoo-ha.

      It really is just a case of being very late in admitting that SBST made the wiser choice in the long run.

      And residents in BPJ finally getting their DDs back.

      Nostalgic photo of 190 and 106 ADD in 1 picture

      Edited by SBS2601D 13 Jul `14, 9:51AM
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    • And if I say that the arrangement of Loyang as mentioned by lemon will only be temporary, will you believe too?

      v(^^)v

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    • Originally posted by SBS 9631X:

      I'm quoting this post from a few days ago but anyway:

      Did anyone really think that Sv 169 will get DDs? Sv 169 is like the unoffical "Army Express". Go and count the number of army camps & key protected places it passes by. (Khatib Camp, Dieppe Barracks, Nee Soon Camp, Sembawang Air Base, Sembawang Camp, Sembawang Wharves, Sembawang Shipyard).

      If they really put DDs on Sv 169, don't you think that the authorities would think that this would allow random people to happily spy into what goes on in the camps because of the elevated height? And in turn pose as a security threat?

      I'm not saying that Sv 169 will never get DDs, but I don't think it will happen anytime soon on their priority list.

      I do agree that Sv 169 needs much more Bendies though in the fleet at the frequencies they're running now during Peak. The Rigids just can't cope that well unless they're bunched up together. 

       

      No la.

      I tell you the real reason why 169 no more bendies.

      Cos everytime the SBS DDs passed by last time, they always get chased by those chao recruits who could see the tall-tall bus: OMIGOSH NINJA VAN

      and I tell you, despo boys can out-run commando mozzies. That scared the bus drivers and they complained to LTA. So no more DD for 169. So sad right

      Don't believe, you go serve nation, take IPPT at Khatib, ask the PTI laojiao (not the CISCO ones).icon_twisted.gif

      Edited by SBS2601D 10 Jul `14, 11:35PM
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    • Originally posted by Bus Stopping:

      How far can you see into the camp on a moving dd? I dont think its of any concern considering you can easily look through the fence anyway.

      If there are any secrets to hide they would have done it by hiding it far inside the camp or underground (ahem... uaf?).

      Oh plenty.

      Some have claimed to have seen NSFs twerking inside, and attempted to take picture..........but the bus was going too fast........

       

      You get the picture. Say cheese!icon_twisted.gif

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    • Painful facts are just hard to swallow.icon_twisted.gif

      What is call big perspective?

      Its called perspectives without facts?

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    • LTA thinks LRTs aren't wonderful.

      Period.

      Some of you can yadda yadda yadda, but its a fact.

      There are new towns in the works and nobody said they have LRTs.

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    • Si liao lor like this.

      Like this I take 89 or 109 DD I must imagine ARTI ARTI ARTI when I pass through Loyang and take cover so I won't be accused of spying on the Air Force and Army?

       

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    • Certainly aware of what you meant.

      Certainly you are also aware of what I meant....what.

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    • Need to speculate meh?

      Means 854 won't call at Bedok Int.

      Unless otherwise stated in future.

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    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      It is definitely an event worth celebrating for SMRT. It has taken the plunge and it is a historic event in its operations. 

      If Google came with gmail years after hotmail, doesn't mean it should not celebrate launch of its new product. Gmail is more successful than hotmail today. Cheers! 

      I finally decided to pay my fine and return to SG to serve my country (by playing piano) after evading NS for many years.

      Worth celebrating?

      Edited by SBS2601D 06 Jul `14, 9:51PM
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    • Even before ADDs came, 190 already had DDs.

      To even mention that 190 will soon have DDs is really a joke.

      Albeit one that BPJ residents probably didn't appreciate. 190 lost its DDs when SMRT took over.

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    • Originally posted by ArJoe:


      What have this thread got to do with investment bankers?

      Someone said that IB = In-before lock.

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      You tell me.

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    • Originally posted by TIB429E:

      http://www.mynewsdesk.com/sg/smrt/pressreleases/smrt-double-deckers-to-begin-service-on-13-july-2014-1016455

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      "In the next 3 months, more Double Deckers will be progressively introduced to 9 other bus services, following a series of road tests, tree pruning and personnel training. These are essential services plying longer, heavily used routes, namely Bus Services 106, 188, 190, 850E, 951E, 960, 963, 966 and 969."

      SBST has been running ADDs for 21 years.

      And SMRT makes it seem like some huge-huge event.

      Sure, I appreciate SMRT's move to take onboard DDs.

      But there is really nothing to celebrate about being late by 2 decades if we look from this perspective.icon_lol.gif

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    • Originally posted by digimonfan2008:

      Tell your parents, 24 mths x $___  is alot of money.

      $10 prepaid can use for 2-3 months if you're disciplined enough to use it for important/urgent matters. Those "what's up", "how r u doing" chit-chat messages are redundant. Reserve chit-chat for email.

      Of course it is redundant.

      It is redundant to send causual messages to someone who finds it redundant.

      My whatsapp is better utilised on someone else who values my concerns.

      It is all about needs and wants.

      Smart people will not be calling others smart or stupid.

      Edited by SBS2601D 06 Jul `14, 11:28AM