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    • Originally posted by 23ispolo:

      SMRT PIS info is quite good now... Just that SMRT don't maintain the PIS systems well on some buses, that's why spoil and useless... No need replacement, because is waste of money... Just upgrade the current system if need be and give PROPER MAINTENANCE...

      You clearly did not read what TS posted.

      Well....that's not at all surprising judging from many comments posted here 

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    • Originally posted by SMB128B:

      Fucking smart logic lah, two readers catering to a one-person capacity exit...

      Just use the city types of buses lah please. Like the one I've posted on the previous page or acquire SMRT "leftovers" like the Yutong and the Zhongtong. 

      Do you have to be rude?

      And do you use any brains at all?

      It's easy to guess that the 2nd card-reader is for redundancy purposes.

      Isn't this obvious?

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    • Originally posted by Pervertedboy:

      Personally, I feel that SBS Transit is now more of a bus operator, instead of the company it seemed to be previously. SBS Transit now only focus on bus service, on how to operate them and how to improve them. All the campaigns and so on are now done by LTA and the government. If anyone notices, SBS Transit now hardly (or never really) introduce its own company campaign (eg. http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2007-03-31-02-S.aspx) like in the past. Ever since the Government intervened, SBS Transit's quality of bus services has improved. For instance, the waiting time for buses and crowding level of buses are now, to some extent, reduced. icon_smile.gif

      Personally, I feel that SMRT is gradually returning back to its former self - during the Singapore MRT Ltd days & during the Trans-Island Buses days. In other words, the quality in all aspects of SMRT has improved and is improving further. In terms of technology, SMRT will soon catch up with SBS Transit, as it is currently implementing all the technology that SBS Transit implemented before the government intervened. icon_smile.gifWhen SMRT's first batch of Double Decker buses enters service by 2016, along with the technology that would all implemented by then, I am sure SMRT will be on par with SBS Transit. icon_cool.gif

      As the government introduces more bus services in SMRT areas via the BSEP, I guess this would increase SMRT's share in the public bus services industry and reduce SBS Transit's share, such that both shares will eventually equalise at 50%-50%. This will cease SBS Transit's monoploy status. Along with SMRT catching up in technology and having Double Decker buses in its fleet, there is finally going to be real competition between the two Public Transport Operators! icon_biggrin.gif

      Thereafter, when everything is equal (except number of services and buses) in both Public Bus Operators, I guess the Government will say that whatever SBS Transit and SMRT have in common (by that time) is the standard that a Public Transport Operator must have.

      When the standard (eg. must have a prescribed list of technology, must have at least how much proportion of Double Decker buses, etc.) is set, I guess the Government will then open up the Public Bus Industry and invite other bus operators to become Public Bus Operator in Singapore.

      So... to some extent, the government is helping SMRT improve and be on par with SBS Transit, while it pause SBS Transit's improvement (in non-services areas). Personally, in my opinion, I feel that it is only because the government intervenes that's why SMRT implements the tracking system in its buses, introduces Double Decker buses, etc.  Somehow, I feel that SMRT is right now being SBSTransit-nalised (becoming similar to SBS Transit). Eventually, SMRT will be so identical to SBS Transit that the only difference is just in the logo, livery, colours schemes (in buses) and the uniform that the staff wears. 

      By then, when things become so identical, LTA will most likely say that this is the standard that Public Bus Operators must have, in order for them to get their license to operate public bus services, or have their license renewed thereafter.

      By then, there will be many depots (right now, I think there is only the one at Bulim) and interchanges (I think the one at Joo Koon is developed and owned by LTA) built by LTA and leased to Public Bus Operators. Whereas for the ones owned by the respective Public Bus Operators, LTA will probably take over them and be the new owner of them, then lease them to Public Bus Operators. 

      By then, I doubt any Public Bus Operator would have the luxury of leasing an entire bus depot/interchange. Most likely one bus depot/interchange will be used by several Public Bus Operators, and every Public Bus Operator can only lease parking lots, based on how many bus routes it operates from the facility. 

      Meanwhile, there will surely be excess buses that would not have space in the depot/interchanges, if LTA takes over them and lease them to several operators. I guess the government will either make it compulsory for every Public Bus Operator to come up with their own money to buy land to build their own parking space to park their buses, or (since land is scarce) LTA will itself build one multi-storey storage building at every of the four districts (north, south, east, west) of Singapore for storing of buses, and make it compulsory for every Public Bus Operator to rent the bus storage spaces at the buildings - the proportion of storage space allocated in every storage building would be based on the proportion of the PTO share in bus services in the district the building is in. Somehow, I think many people will complain and criticize if government chooses to do the second option, because many people will say that the government waste money build the multi-storey bus storage buildings - unless the government can justify that the rent it forced out of PTOs actually can make profits after a certain number of years.

      Just in case suddenly no buses are deployed, the government would probably make it a must that the bus storage buildings/spaces in total must have the provision of accommodating a certain number of Public Bus Operators. 

      By then, when the two Public Bus Operators become so identical, all the infrastructure required for public bus services is owned by the government, and all the provision of bus storage infrastructure required are there, I guess the government will then open up the Public Bus Services Industry and invite the Private bus operators to become Public Bus Operators, and Public Bus Operators from other countries to come to Singapore and be Public Bus Operators here.

      By then, there will be a great competition among the Public Bus Operators in the Public Bus Services industry. The government will set the standards and regulate/control the industry, while the Public Bus Operators compete among themselves to remain in competition and avoid being replaced by other Public Bus Operators. In other words, by then, the Public Bus Services industry will be based on Contracts model. 

      You type so much.

      But let me show you a single picture.

       

      We’ve just awarded a contract to ST Electronics (Info-Comm Systems) Pte Ltd (STE) / Trapeze Switzerland GMBH Consortium to develop an Intelligent Bus Management System to integrate operations control, fleet management, passenger information and business management.

      How does this system benefit our commuters? This new technology will enable SBS Transit and SMRT to better optimise their bus fleets and resources, which translates to better bus services. Commuters will not onlyenjoy more reliable bus services, but also more accurate information like bus arrival timings. You can better plan your journeys!

      The Intelligent Bus Management System is a step-up from the separate bus fleet management systems which SBS Transit and SMRT currently uses to manage their daily bus operations and to provide bus arrival information to commuters. The system will be implemented progressively from the end of 2015.

       

      Get it?

      Edited by SBS2601D 09 Apr `14, 6:37PM
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    • http://scaniak230ubsbstsmrt.blogspot.sg/2009_08_01_archive.html

      So much memories in a single pic.

      And....

      Edited by SBS2601D 03 Apr `14, 9:42PM
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    • And Superbus sounds way cooler than ADL Enviro blah blah.

      It makes every DD sound super.

      Including the LOs and VOs.smile.png

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    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Darn i miss the old 502 & 507

      I miss the Superbus livery.

      2 colours only, but very classy in design and unique.

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    • Originally posted by lemon1974:

      so new bendies are not banned.... 

      To start with, that notion never made any sense leh.

      Its not like LTA owns SMRT.

      Besides. 

      There are other ways to squeeze the PTOs if they step out of line, especially in the coming years. (think of who has been building depots and buying buses recently)

      But we shall see.

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    • Originally posted by Pervertedboy:


      SBS changed its name to SBS Transit in 2001.

      well, according to sgwiki.com (http://sgwiki.com/wiki/Singapore_Bus_Trivia#Volvo_B10TL), it is then the Volvo B10TL bus model that is the first to straightaway get the new SBS Transit livery. (I am sorry for the error.)

      so, if we put the Volvo B10TL Super Olympian and the Alexander Dennis Limited Enviro500 (the next generation) together, we get a lovely couple - since they are the first Double Decker bus model to straightaway get the new livery of their respective operator. icon_biggrin.gif

      Someone should ask Team Driverless (https://www.facebook.com/teamdriverless) to draw comics featuring Volvo B10TL and ADL Enviro500 - where both of them finally found each other (their other half) - and are hugging & kissing, or doing some childish actions that couples would usually do when they are dating. icon_lol.gif #justsaying

      lol. i dont quite get your obsession with putting 2 "first to get new livery buses".

      but you are wrong again, and a similar picture(as posted by lemon) to prove my point.

      icon_lol.gif

      Edited by SBS2601D 02 Apr `14, 9:09PM
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    • Originally posted by Pervertedboy:

      I am confused. icon_neutral.gif

      What exactly is the Double Decker bus model that SMRT is procuring? icon_confused.gif

      Is it just the 103 units of Alexander Dennis Enviro500 (mentioned in a Facebook postor does it also include around 100 units of MAN Lion's City DD? icon_rolleyes.gif

      Because according to http://publictransportsg.wordpress.com/2014/03/21/smrts-new-double-deck-buses/ - a rather credible source that has "predicted" many new bus routes - it seems that SMRT is procuring Double Decker buses from two brands (MAN and Alexander Dennis), instead of just that one brand (Alexander Dennis) which we have (more) sources to confirm it. confused.png

      If it is true that SMRT is procuring two models of Double Decker bus, then this may explain why the dates vary in some sources; Previously, someone shared with me a picture of a SMRT tender document showing that the Double Decker buses will be introduced in August 2014. This week, SMRT say that the Double Decker buses will be introduced in June 2014. icon_question.gif

      At first, I thought that SMRT is accelerating the procurement process, thus they can introduce the Double Decker buses in June 2014. Now that I have read this article from http://publictransportsg.wordpress.com/2014/03/21/smrts-new-double-deck-buses/ , I think I know why there are two different dates: SMRT is procuring two models of Double Decker bus. smile.png

      Therefore, instead of around 100 units, SMRT is actually introducing around 203 units of Double Decker bus - by the end of this yearicon_biggrin.gif

      Currently, according to Wikipedia, including the one with 'SMB' prefix, SMRT has 324 units of Articulated bus. smile.png

      On the assumption that part of the around 203 units of Double Decker bus will replace some units of Articulated bus, say 75% of them (since BSEP is primarily about enhancing existing bus services, then secondarily about adding new bus services), around 152 units of Articulated bus will be replaced with around 152 units of Double Decker bus by the end of this year. icon_smile.gif

      But then again, I thought SMRT said that "while the double-deckers will be useful for adding capacity on services into the city, they are not as suitable for heavily-used feeder routes" (http://ride.asiaone.com/news/general/story/smrt-get-double-deckers) - which implies that it may continue to have Articulated buses in its fleet? icon_confused.gif

      So, I guess SMRT wants to just reduce the composition of Articulated buses in its fleet, and not totally replace them with Double Decker buses. smile.png

      Could this be SMRT's only procurement of Double Decker buses at this juncture, and there will be procurement of new Articulated buses next year to replace the units of Articulated bus that would remain next year? embarrassed.png

      Please correct me if I am wrong. shade.png

      There is nothing to correct or speculate.

      Just take the buses as they come la.

      The sources are credible?

      I wonder.

      I wouldn't read too much in people's attempts to wiggle information where it should not be.icon_rolleyes.gif

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    • Originally posted by Pervertedboy:

      A Double Decker bus has one exit door.

      An Articulated bus has two exit doors.

      Technically, because it has two times the number of exit doors, the unloading of passengers is two times faster for Articulated bus. 

      Assuming Ceteris Paribus, this means that the amount of time an Articulated bus spends at a bus bay is half the time a Double Decker bus spends at the bus bay. 

      As less time is spent at the bus bay, an Articulated bus would take a shorter time to operate a route, as compared to a Double Decker bus operating the same route. This would therefore enable commuters to get to their destination faster.

      When commuters can get to their destination in a shorter time, they will be happy, be more satisfied with the bus services, etcetera. icon_smile.gif

       More exit doors, Better ride. icon_biggrin.gif

      Another abuse of the term "ceteris paribus".....

      What is there to assume in "all things held constant"?

      Even if all things were held constant, but then both buses have different pax distribution to start with (the shorter rear trailer for the bendy means that the rear exit door serves less people in fact), the assumption that the bendy would unload pax in HALF the time is fallacious.

      And yes.

      Like what some have mentioned here, bendies are a pain in the ass if you are in the bus behind: Most stops only allow 1 bendy a time. 

      Edited by SBS2601D 23 Mar `14, 9:44AM
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    • Hear hear...

      For all the "serious" stuff talked here, ironically it is still hard to keep serious.

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    • Originally posted by dupdup77:

      Hi mr SBS2601D, you really lived up to your name of trying not to be serious when weekend is approaching. Just like how you answered BusAnalyser few hours ago. Really a joker! 

      Yes, mr dupdup77 with the said twitter account (along with actual name?), I am not bothered with "serious" replies of any sorts.

      They can be quite boring.

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    • Originally posted by Acx1688:

      Dunoe chairman...ve problems send feedback, if feedback dun receive attention n due proper reply send to higher level till minister of transport... 

      Learnt liao

      Alamak

      You nv follow chain of command??

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    • Originally posted by Acx1688:

      Yah lim choon leng one of the northeast ex mps

      I went to google again.

      Michael Lim is his boss la.

      Chairman LTA

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    • Originally posted by dupdup77:

      Hi mr Acx1688, which part of SG? Be specific. I am sure within 400 metres of every household, there is bound to be a bus stop with some connecting bus services, be it just 1 bus service or many. Thanks. 

      Pulau Ubin.

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    • And that's how this forum powers its way to top spot without fail.

      Yeah!

      We succeeded in repeating dupdup77 >> LTA, LTA >> dupdup77 **repeat**

      For 2 grand pages.

      * clap clap *

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    • Originally posted by Acx1688:

      Dr michael lim? The MP?

      Is he?

      I just randomly google one.

      Just to screw his brains a little.

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    • Originally posted by dupdup77:

      Hi mr SBS2601D, this is where you are wrong. Initially I came in here and introduced myself here and talked to a few people here. I told them which area i live previously and currently and I tried to connect to people here. However, some accused me of being from LTA and yet just recently, one even thought I was trying to stalk people. So I realized that there is no point of trying to connect to people in this forum. Cheers.

      No I am right.

      You are from LTA.

      Oh gosh.

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    • Originally posted by dupdup77:

      Hi mr SBS2601D, i have already said in my previous replies to another guy that from now onwards, i will reply to views on bus services in this forum only and nothing else. Topics which stray from bus services are of no interest to me. Thanks. 

      You are boring.

      Seriously.

      You come here just to talk bus bus bus bus.

      There's more to life than that.

      People have tried to connect to you.

      But you chose to draw the line and look away.

      What have you at the end of the day here?

      Nothing.

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