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    • SBS2791M SBS2792K SBS2793H SBS2794E SBS2796A SBS2797Y SBS2798U SBS2800X SBS2803M SBS2813J SBS2819T SBS2833B SBS2834Z SBS2836T SBS2838M (HGDEP Icon_arrow Early lay-up and deregistered)

      SBS6623P to 158 replace SBS2791M

      SBS5235H to 165 replace SBS2792K

      SBS6859B to 159 replace SBS2793H (former perm)

      SBS6617H to 132 replace SBS2794E (former perm)

      SBS5138E to 105 replace SBS2796A

      SBS8868L to 100 replace SBS2797Y

      SBS6716E to 156 replace SBS2798U

      SBS6066Y to 109 replace SBS2800X

      SBS6616K to 112 replace SBS2803M (former perm)

      SBS6053G to 151 replace SBS2813J

      SBS3110Y to 103 replace SBS2838M (DD upsize)

      Edited by SBS8676Z 20 May `17, 1:05PM
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    • Originally posted by Sbs6750E:


      waiting for DM3500 on 371/374 lol.

      I dun think this will happen, unless SBST make plastic destos for these new services. Unlike VO3X that use EDS. 

      Edited by SBS8676Z 20 May `17, 10:36AM
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    • Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:

      Lances should never have been on 169. It deserved HC buses from the start. Prior to SBS giving 169 to TIBS in 1984, SBS had been putting at least half DD fleet on 169.

      169 did not have any high capacity fleets under Tibs until 2001, when bendies started to perm 169.

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    • Originally posted by Gus.chong:

      I suppose they would be waiting for the bendies to go off...after all there are quite a higher number of A95s and B9TLs already assigned to SMRT as compared to the MK2 bendies de-registered.

      TIB1025E to TIB1050G batch going off come next month.

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    • Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:

      TIBS handled SKG and Jalan Kayu quite okay. They had box bendies on 82 and 864 (present 80). Even 103 and the old 860 had Hispano O405's. The tradeoff was Scania 113's and later Lances appearing on 167, 851, 852, 853, 855 and 980 but it really got to the worst (en masse spam of Lances on AMDEP services) when they took over BPJ and CCK and gave SKG and Kayu back to SBST.

      If I am not wrong, Lances rolled in at around the time when Tibs opened its 3rd depot at Woodlands in 1998. The Scanias were then under AMDEP and eventually moved to WLDEP, and the newly rolled in Lances took its place in AMDEP.

      855 initially had mainly 0405s in its fleet until when Jalan Kayu went back under SBST, lances from 163 went to 855. Some of the 855's 0405s went to 67.

      167 and 851 never had lances until sometime later in 2001, due to the fact that these 2 services were not under AMDEP then until another depot reshuffle took place. 169 was the one that had lances instead.

      103 also got a handful of perm lances too when it was under Tibs, together with 163 and 59/866 (now 86).

      I remembered once Tibs started to take over 190, all the bendies were withdrawn from 82. And also noticed Tibs also anyhow deployed buses on 82 and 103 just before they were returned to SBS in 1999.

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    • Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:

      In this respect I kinda agree with the "industry" wrt SMRT ... in fact they should just focus on running the rails properly and ditch the bus business. I dont mean to cause hurt to SMRT bus drivers, but SMRT management had only managed to show that it is capable of only properly managing a bus business of a scale that harks back to the TIBS days prior to the Bt Panjang and CCK takeover.

      Their recent improvements had been directly due to LTA, BSEP and the provision of GreenBus Co buses.

      Agreed. I am just hoping that SMRT lose the Sembawang-Yishun package (all AMDEP controlled) by 2020.

      Anyway back to topic, are they anymore B3 A95s being registered lately? It has been some time ever since the last unit was registered. Or is LTA waiting for the next batch of old bendies to go off next month?

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    • Sat 13/05

      SBS6070Z 163
      SG5420B 163
      SBS6616K 371

      SMB5894P 854
      SMB5895L 854

      Edited by SBS8676Z 14 May `17, 11:35AM
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    • Originally posted by lemon1974:

      very simple... he only wan the newest buses on his favourite service......

      failed WAB quota --> complain
      no HC buses ---> complain
      deployed E500 ---> also complain.. these E500 are only 4-5 years old? maybe we should complain about those SBST services which are still using VO3x/VSO/tridents or even Batch 1 B9TL...  

      First SMRT DDs roll into service in July 2014, which means the E500s should only be 3 years old and below.

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    • Originally posted by SMB128B:

      Why cannot?

      I mean its okay for you to be curious, but why shame SMRT for it? A95 or E500, still DD what. 854 pax still getting their DD what. SMRT is doing their job just fine. 

      Seriously, get a life la. This kind of stupid thing also can complain. If I were you I'd be more than happy at least the E500 has a PIS so I won't miss my stop. If 854 DD fleet sucks then what is that of svcs like 960??

      960 fleet had improved quite alot ever since more B4 WEGs enter WLDEP to replace the old bendies. The worse off currently are those Woodlands feeders.

      For 854 fleet I am fine with the deployment of any DDs, be it E500 or A95. As long as the old bendies dun anyhow spam 854 and the WAB quota is met.

      Edited by SBS8676Z 12 May `17, 6:52PM
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    • The only sticky perms that I see on 854 are those OC500LEs. It also seems that SMB44J and SMB46D are also perm 854 instead of 980.

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    • Originally posted by SBS3004X:

      Agree that the DDs are wasted, I have ever waited for 25 minutes for 88 on a weekend only to have a full SD arrive.

      And I know there are many SBST services, not just 88. 2 other very good examples are 161 and 168.

      U miss out 89 that also got massive downsize during weekends as well.

      161 is another service that is a headache during Sundays/PH. Recently, even Sat also had massive downsize. The last thing that I want to see on 161 during weekends is a DM3500 being deployed.

      168 is not much of an issue, there are still majority DDs seen on a regular weekend basis.

      Edited by SBS8676Z 11 May `17, 11:30PM
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    • Originally posted by sfirenze:

      Saw 2 enviro only bro 

      Thanks... Anyway good enough icon_smile.gif

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    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      GAS shortage of SDs to be frank..Thats why I've said before..If those SG Citaros from Bulim storage can exchange with GAS excess DDs then it can be done.

      Shortage of single decks? Well, hope to see some fleet swap take place just before SBST takes over Yishun services under Seletar package.

      Example, SBSMRT Citaros to GA Loyang and in return send the Wrights over to SBST Seletar. I believe 851 and Yishun side needs DDs more compare to 43M and 119...

      Edited by SBS8676Z 11 May `17, 9:25PM
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    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Well they can request LTA to take some of GAS B9TL and replace with a few SDs

      Seriously speaking 43M and 119 should use full single deck fleet, 83 should stick to 50:50. The B9TLs can be put to better use elsewhere.

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    • Originally posted by Formususeonly:

      I am going to rant about 854 deployment again . 854 on this few days have been using more and more SD . What worst is that all those spare Enviro 500 ( taken out from 856 / 969 / 857 ) are appearing on 854 . While 854 A95 buses are taken away to replace those missing Enviro . Hello smrt ! Why do you want to swap buses here and there in the 1st place ? 856 / 857 cannot use Enviro 500 bus is it ? Must use A95 bus huh ? What bullshit crap are you thinking ? Swapping buses here and there ? 856 need full fleet A95 DD meh ? Enviro cannot do the job ah ? 854 last time was mixed fleet enviro & A95 but now enviro buses has been on the rise and A95 buses decrease.  F*** you smrt for your rubbish deployment and only favour those money making routes . ( 854 is also a money making route with full capacity on peak hours on weekdays ) 

      E500 or A95 on 854 I have no issue with it, they are still WAB high capacity buses.

      Just stop spamming old bendies on 854 can already.

      Spotted at least 2 A95 yesterday though, 5762P was one of them.

      Edited by SBS8676Z 11 May `17, 6:53PM
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    • Originally posted by sfirenze:

      TIB1169Z-854

      SMB3606T-857

      SMB8037C/8030X-858

      TIB1213D/1147L/1112L -851

      TIB1172M-851

      May I know if there are any double decks on 854 today??

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    • I agree with Formususeonly, past few weekdays 854 did quite well, and there were at least 6-7 A95s spotted on Thurs. Somehow AMDEP screwed up 854's fleet today yet again that rather pissed me off (forgive me for the way I posted earlier on).

      Yes I agree around 6 NWAB still ok, but that is provided it is during the weekday peak hour. But having 6 NWAB today (which is a weekend and normally lesser buses) is definitely a no-go for me. My weekend expectation is to have lesser bendies as possible and more DDs (at least 75% WAB criteria met). Worse till 3 consecutive NWAB at YCK Road towards Bedok is still happening on a weekend. Seriously what is SMRT doing??

      Compare 854 with other WAB trunk service with HC, I notice that 854 is still way below standard. 854 still can have as many as 6 NWAB whereas other services like 169 have only about 2-3. 960 used to be worse off but it had improved alot after the WEGs came in. 963 no need to say, SMRT had been pampering this service alot ever since SMRT brought in DDs.

      Edited by SBS8676Z 06 May `17, 9:45PM
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    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      Bro,Currently Amdep got the most A95 and E500 also.Thats why Amdep shouldn't take E500.They should take all the B9TL instead.E500 should stay with Kjdep and Wldep.

      Amdep should maintain A22/OC500LE/Citaro/B9TL and A95.

      My concern is more on 854 WAB quota, not on what type of fleet AMDEP should get. Given the 854 screw up deployment right now, I will rather AMDEP focus on 854 first regarding of whether is E500, A95 etc. Just get the old bendies out from 854 sight.

      So what AMDEP got so many A95s while 854 still using so many old bendies? Is a matter of how AMDEP show favoritism in their fleet assignment. Right now I really hate the way AMDEP pamper the Woodlands services with many A95s right now while the old buses keep getting dumped onto 854.

      The only way is to lay up all the old bendies as once.

      Edited by SBS8676Z 06 May `17, 4:33PM
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    • Originally posted by SMB1333T:

      Based on observations here recently regarding 854, it is doing totally fine.

      Having 8 perm NWAB bendies out of 29/30 buses is acceptable - look at those WAB feeders with more than 50% nwab fleet.. And based on spottings by various people, 854 also seems to be having quite a number of DDs the past few days, at least 10 A95s spotted on Thursday

      A22 vs OC, does it matter? Both are WAB buses the average commuter will not bother. Besides OC has a higher passenger capacity, so shouldnt OC be preferred over A22 actually for a service like 854?

      I observe 854 fleet today, TERRIBLE!!! It seems like SMRT is neglecting 854 again. There are STILL at least 6 NWAB today even though it is a weekend, with 3 CONSECUTIVE NWAB at around 2pm timing along HG area towards Bedok. 

      Seriously I dun understand... Why AMDEP can't just take in more new DDs and enhance 854 fleet first, instead of KJDEP keep taking them in to pamper CCK services that are already full fleet WAB?? I feel that 854 is currently the worst treated WAB trunk fleet now, ever since 960 got its fleet upgrade. Also, AMDEP should just give 854 designated perm DD fleets instead of giving any random buses. AMDEP should also stop showing favoritism on those ex-WLDEP services!

      Understand that there are many new B3 A95s that had been delivered to SG already and I dunno what is keeping them from coming out on the roads. The June 2000 old bendy batch can prepare for retirement liao.

      I really want to see 854 get the new batch of A95s in time to come.

      Edited by SBS8676Z 06 May `17, 2:43PM
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    • Apart from services 192 and 193 which is likely to be amended to the new bus terminal, I feel that LTA should introduce another 2-3 more new JIS services to provide more coverage within the Tuas South estate (which is only covered by 182 at the moment).

      Edited by SBS8676Z 28 Apr `17, 10:38PM
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    • Originally posted by gekpohboy:

      I agree that Pasir Laba Camp and Singapore Discovery Centre needs a bus service. Likewise for Jalan Ahmad Ibrahim at Tuas.

      There used to be a service 450 that plied from old Jurong interchange to Pasir Laba which was withdrawn decades ago.

      For Singapore Discovery Centre, it is actually a 5-10 mins walking distance to Joo Koon MRT.

      Edited by SBS8676Z 28 Apr `17, 10:46PM
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    • Once Mandai integrated bus depot is ready, I believe AMDEP (SMRT) controlled fleets and all the different ONP locations will move and centralize there. By then the Sembawang-Yishun package will be up for tender as well.

      And who knows, SMRT AMDEP HQ may close down by then.