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    10,585 posts since May '12
    • Originally posted by iveco:

      There were complaints about 970 having terrible frequency. Most were from Holland Villagers catching the train from Commonwealth station.

      61 is supposed to skip Tanglin Halt after BTOs are broken down and will help provide one more link between HV and Commonwealth. Currently, most prefer taking 95, 106 from BNV to HV on account of reliable/good frequency.

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    • Originally posted by iveco:

      I prefer 122 to skip Commonwealth Dr altogether and loop at Holland Village instead. It can take some pressure off 970.

      970 doesn't exactly have such high loading to take pressure off. 122 can just loop around Queenstown MRT and come back via Dawson. 

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    • Originally posted by Marvel68:

      Imo, since you mentioned Shenton Way, 186 can absorb 122's route since it parallels 122 from Queenstown to Tiong Bahru by making it skip C'wealth Ave and Ganges Ave and do 122's route from Margaret Dr to Tiong Bahru Rd instead...

      I think that's a good suggestion. 186 can be diverted via Queenstown MRT, Dawson Road, Kay Siang, Tanglin to Alexandra road and then via Tiong Bahru, Havelock towards Shenton Way.

      51 will continue to be direct alternative between Queenstown and Havelock.

      The challenge will be that those from Ganges will lose direct connection to Shenton Way. This probably can be managed by 121 extended to Shenton Way via Havelock as 186 has huge loading in peak hours between Havelock and Shenton (this is where DDs get 100+ pax between 0800 and 0900am) and 121 can help alleviate the loading on 186. 

      122 can then be totally scrapped. 

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    • Originally posted by Marvel68:

      Yes, It still perplexes me that the Kay Siang Rd stops are usually so empty even after the opening of SkyVille and SkyTerrace flats, maybe the residents using EWL just walk to Queenstown MRT instead of taking 32/122 to Redhill/Tiong Bahru while those heading to Alexandra Rd stop take 51/111/139/186/970 instead. 

      The route is quite badly planned. 32 has poor frequency to Redhill. 122 to Tiong Bahru is not like the closest MRT + doesn't have a great frequency because of poor loading. Hence, people walk even if they don't prefer to. 

      122 should have just looped around Queenstown MRT and come back via Dawson road. Usually LTA plans for door step access to estates but in case of Queenstown/Margaret estate both 32/122 are not well planned. Even 32 continues to have poor loading inspite of 2 huge BTOs ready for few years.

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    • Originally posted by carbikebus:

      On second thought, its better to have proper Rumah Tinggi terminal with another 3 lots so another new svc start from there.36 can start from Bt Merah loop at CGA instead.A new feeder loop at Bt Purmei so 123 and 131 need not go in there.

      I think Rumah Tinggi should have a proper terminal as you mentioned. They also need to chop some trees so that 63 can get DDs. 36 should be extended to Rumah Tinggi via Tanglin Road >> Redhill MRT to Rumah Tinggi. Though there will be some duplication with 111 along Tanglin and 132 Redhill to Orchard, I think it is still worth it as Tanglin only has 2 services 111, 132 currently. 

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    • Originally posted by Marvel68:

      Was hoping that 122 will be amended to CTE and Jalan Bukit Merah to Kampong Bahru instead of through Outram Rd as it duplicates 121 extensively between Kampong Bahru and Lower Delta Rd... I mean seriously, literally no one ever takes 122 at Outram Park Stn unless it happens to arrive before 33/63/851 and at least amending it to Jalan Bukit Merah would create an unique link between Tiong Bahru MRT and Jalan Bukit Merah but no, that would make too much sense for LTA....

      As for 120, wouldn't cutting short to Kampong Bahru inconvenience those who rely on 120 to travel to SGH?

      I agree they need to do something with 122 route. In spite of huge development along Queenstown estate, 122 does not have good loading because of the way its route has been created. 122 between Tiong Bahru and Outram always empty. Should have used this opportunity to extend to Marina Center or Shenton Way (at least) or use your suggestion. 

      120 no problem. It is almost empty after Lower Delta. 

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    • Originally posted by SMB315C:

      Most of the time all 4 DDs are under full day, while the 3 SDs under split..

      Somewhere after evening there will be 1 DD swopped out with 1 SD..

      Today 3 DDs, 4 SDs on 883.

      Full DD fleet + 1 rigid on 806 (no bendies at all)

      4 DD + 4 SD on 804 (no bendies)

      807 have 2 bendies

      969 have +10 SDs... 

       

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    • Originally posted by lemon1974:

      8 mins frequency plus peak traffic condition....so u wan the 2nd bus and 45A bus to wait at lor ah soo bus stop ?

      Next bus was a SD after 17 minutes. Yes the 45A downroute that becomes 45 towards AMK depot should have waited 4-5 minutes to pick up passengers. This is a common practice in many cities such as London, where buses wait to create a proper spacing between them. Especially with 45A with no pax on board, should definitely have waited. Confirmed SD after 17 mins cannot tank the load. 

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    • 854 sequence this morning at Hougang. 

      B > B > S > D > B > S > B > D > D > D > D > B > B > D > S > B > B > B > B > D > S > B

      Total number of buses observed = 22

      No of BDs = 11 (50% fleet)

      No of DDs = 07 (35% fleet)

      No of SDs = 04 (15% fleet) 

      * Looking at the loading, there is no place for SDs on 854 but still 854 is better managed than 969. 

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    • At HGDEP this  morning towards Eunos. Sequence of buses from 658am to 758am

      25 (D) > 854 (B) > 151 (S)87 (D) > 854 (B) > 51 (D) > 87 (D) > 25 (S) > 45 (S) > 55 (S) > 151 (D) > 151 (S) > 25 (D) > 51 (S) > 854 (S) > 25 (D) > 87 (D) > 45 (S) > 854 (D) > 25 (D) > 55 (D) > 87 (D) > 151 (S) > 45 (D) > 55 (S) > 854 (B) > 151 (S) > 51 (S) > 25 (D) > 87 (D) > 854 (S)151 (S) > 854 (B) > 51 (D) > 25 (D) > 55 (D) > 87 (D) > 151 (D) > 87 (D) > 25 (D) > 55 (D) > 854 (D) > 45 (D) > 854 (D) > 51 (D) > 151 (S) > 45 (S) > 87 (D) > 854 (D) > 25 (D) > 25 (D) > 55 (D) > 87 (D) > 51 (D) > 87 (D) > 854 (D)

      * 25, 87 and 854 operating at a frequency of 5-6 minutes with almost every bus full 

      * Amazing frequency on 151 at 7-8 minutes per bus

      * Lower frequency on 45, 51, 55 of around 10-12 minutes per bus

      * 55 always followed a 25. Many times 25, 55, 87 and 854 come together, yet 25, 87 and 854 have +70 pax loading

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    • Massive bunching of 3 svc 45 DDs at 8.10am at Serangoon Ave 2 towards AMK Depot. One of them was the last bus on 45A that downroute to AMK Depot. Such wrong scheduling to have all 3 of them arrive at the same time at Serangoon MRT and all departed together. 1st bus had 40-50 pax, 2nd DD had around 10-15 pax and the 3rd DD had around 5 pax on board. 

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    • Observations at Admiralty MRT towards Woodlands for 964, 965 and 969 between 6.02 and 6.44pm

      964

      Full DD fleet (no rigid or bendy observed)

      Frequency: 5.6 minutes

      965

      S > S > D > S > D > S > S 

      Freq: 7.5 minutes

      * the last SD observed was packed to door

      * The 2 DDs had around 50 pax on board only

      969

      D > D > B > S > S > D > S > S

      Freq: 6.4 minutes

      * Out of 8 buses, 4 were SDs, 50% HC fleet only

      * Each and every bus was packed. All DDs had around 70-90 pax and SDs had around 55-65 pax. 

      * I still don't get it why SMRT wants to deploy such high number of SDs on 969 when there are so many long distance pax + loading is super high

      * Somehow 965 loading is not as high even though the two have similar routes from Lentor (except YIS 5/7 part). This part does make a big difference to the loading pattern I guess

      * Is SMRT waiting for another 190 situation before it makes 969 full fleet DD ??? 

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    • Originally posted by SMB1368T:

      I know I said last time that I would never post again as I shifted to a new hobby, which I did. But since what am I going to type here is some news and you all are HUNGRY for details, how can I resist? :D

      Anyway, the future Yishun bus interchange is at the central of the new South Wing of Northpoint City. There is a large green grille where Lobby F is which obviously indicates the exit/entrance of the interchange, which I believe is the only one in the whole interchange. Not really a long walk from the MRT, just that you have to make an extra right turn in the mall like how you go to the present interchange. 

      Plus estimating the length of the interchange, you can say that it is just as long as what any air-con bus interchange is today :P

      You know that you can have multiple hobbies, right!? You can keep posting... 

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    • Originally posted by Sbs6750E:

      85’s Sengkang West-Yishun loading has improved quite a lot, every bus got 70++ pax.

      You are right. That's what I observed too. Yishun to Sengkang west AM loading was okay but opposite direction from SKG to YIS was quite high on every bus. 

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    • SBST Observations at Lentor (39/85)

      39

      D > S > S > S > S > S > D > D > S > S 

      * Freq: 10 mins

      * Loading was not so high on almost all buses. DDs must have had around 50 pax only. 

      * I remember few years back 39 was one of the services that received a fleet add every quarter from SBST. It's fleet went from 14 to 22 buses because SDs were not able to tank the load. Now 39 SDs have enough space, let alone the DDs that don't really get used to its capacity. What's the issue here? I think has to do with introduction of 103, 117 to Yishun + fleet add on other services too.

      85

      Freq: 10 mins, 10 DDs observed. 

      2/10 DDs had around 80 pax on board, all others had < 70 pax for sure. 

      * DDs in opposite direction seemed to be doing better. 

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    • 851

      S > S > S > D > S > S > D > D > S

      Freq: 8.6 minutes

      * No bendies observed. Loading was decent on all buses

      852

      freq: 10 mins (better than I expected)

      853

      frew: 8.6 mins (way better than I expected)

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    • Continuing on observations in Lentor this morning.

      855

      Freq: 12 mins, all SDs of course.

      854

      B > D > B > D > B > B > D > S > B > D > B > B> D

      Freq: 6.7 mins

      * Quite impressed that it was almost a full high capacity fleet except for 1 SD

      * Loading was as good as 857. Has the YCK Industrial estate expanded that 854 and 857 at 3 mins frequency average and high capacity buses have such high loading. This is synonymous to the loading on 241 or 807 in AM towards MRT. 

      * Those complaining about lot of rigids on 854, should be happy that 854 is doing much better now while 969 is getting spammed with massive number of rigids. 

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    • Originally posted by Sbs6750E:

      You should observe 965 in opp direction during those timings.

      Will do. A bit crazy how they have 965 buses at 05-07 minutes frequency, when it's not needed. Opposite direction should get some instead. 

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    • 857

      D > S > D > S > D > S > D > S > D > D > S > D > D > D

      * Almost from 7 to 750 am, the DDs and SDs were alternating but as it was closer to 8ish, it was more DDs. Guess this is for Khatib -> YCK Industrial? 

      * Frequency: 6 mins

      * Almost every bus was packed and had good loading.

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    • 858

      B > S > S > S > S > B > S > S > S > S > S > S

      * Frequency: 6.7 minutes

      * Clearly 858 needs more bendies. Come on, give some more bendies to 858 SMRT.

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    • 965

      D > D > S > S > S > S > D > D > S > S

      Frequency: 6.7 minutes 

      * Very high frequency and bunching of DD buses. Most buses had <40 pax on board incl DDs at Lentor. 

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    • Time Observed: 654am - 811am at Lentor

      969

      D > B > D > D > S > S > S > S > S> B > D > D > S > S

      Frequency: 4.6 minutes

      * Annoyingly high number of SDs, almost all packed to door. Wonder what is SMRT doing for such a high loading service?? Have they lost their mind with storming the service with SDs at a frequency of 3 mins or so with overall frequency under 5 mins?? 

      Edited by BusAnalayzer 07 Feb `18, 7:14PM
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    • This is a new bus hobby I have got into recently and thought I should share it with folks here on regular basis.

      I'll start with observations in Yishun this morning. 

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