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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • What has the CEO or COO to do with this?

      The ground staff created the mess, they’ve better jolly well know people will expose their acts and report the matter…

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • Originally posted by SBS 6238T:

      This is stupid topic.No one want to read your stupid explaination.Mods,please lock this topic.Go join SBS Transit lah as a Chief Operating Officer


      You scold people for this as stupid.. wait till your bus is always underoperated.. see you get angry or not

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • if SLBP really very smart…

      Then the timekeeper uncle last time go manipulate the 179/ 179A PM ops… really should have been able to maintain the 3 mins overops headways during PM mealbreak…

      end up real bus freq was 12 mins during PM mealbreak.. breach of QoS…

      Cos why? All anyhow manipulate, pull buses in and out… end up dunno when is the stipulated mealbreak etc… when the bus exit so on…

      then at night.. big mess when CCA n part time students are going home… but during this timing, timekeeper also bo chap so no more additional buses to feed to 179 anymore…

      chickenlittle2 keep on insisting 179 not profitable.. then why SLBP bother to dispatch 179 properly on weekend when loading is not even sustainable? Why must manipulate the weekdays peak hr headways and must keep on get LTA people to step into the matter? SLBP people dun feel bad?

      Obviously there’s more to this… how come it’s peak hr always got 179 overops, 179A underops problem…

      People x-fer to 157, 198… all gets screwed.. take 179 long journey time.. but scared later really no 179A.. but if 179A appears, the runtime might help people to save 1×198’s dispatch [board the earlier S198 bus instead]...

      SLBP really cmi in bus networking… people taking 179 > 157/ 198 totally bo chap about travelling experience and though SBST earn 100% of the revenue…

      MRT rosak how? People boarding and alighting mess at Pioneer? SLBP will handle or must wait for LTA warden to get down to handle? and later people find out overops and SBST slapped with a fine?

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • Dear SLBP,

      You’ve better come clean with this underops and overops nonsense before LTA opens the Bus OCC and instead of chickenlittle2 saying “SLBP will handle it”, it’ll become “LTA will handle the matter”... and SBST/ SLBP slapped with $100k fine

      179A was severely underoperated at about 8 – 10 mins freq.. and worst, BC didn’t allow exit door boarding today…

      179 was over-operated…

      The best thing of all… pulling 179A buses over to 241…

      How come I know… Cos I saw a ghost bus plying 243W’s routing and eventually entering Jurong West St 91 w/ EDS displaying “OFF SERVICE”...

      I’ve checked the e-timetable.. the last downroute is at 0803 from Jurong West St 91 [inbound bus stop]... I spotted this ghost bus at 0810+...

      LTA has stipulated that SLBP is supposed to dispatch 179A once the queue at BNL Int is long enough because they do not want people to be left behind at each dispatch… But the queue was spotted to have reached Shilin Taiwan snack stall, which meant there’s about nearly 180 pax waiting…

      SLBP really disappointing… Semi express service become slow service… Might as well dun operate.. all operate as 179 with 30 buses at 2 mins freq… See if chickenlittle2 or SLBP later face more complains by pax at Pioneer Rd Nth being unable to board the bus at all…

      If SLBP people are looking and the took revenge on the previous post of exposing the exam period Sat slot matter, by all means go ahead…

      SLBP people totally dunno how to manage 179 at all… Today 179A properly operated, next day no bus… then subsequent days of course more people would queue for 179 and suan 179A since SBST didn’t operate the bus properly…

      Then 4th day people queue for 179A again cos tuan by 179’s long queue and long runtime…

      What to do… SLBP the best loading expert… playing with commuters…

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    • and chicklenlittle2 talk big on profit… but dunno how to plan things…

      No bus company in the world except SBST’s SLBP would operate semi express buses if the headways + runtime is slower than the normal bus.. only SLBP is expert in this… chickenlittle2 should be proud his SLBP is number 1 in this…

      and people from NTU x-fer to 157, 174, 198 dun want to take care… Encourage everyone to alight at Pioneer, then SBST pax make them with longer travelling time…

      Then MRT breakdown at Joo Koon how? SLBP print notice on 179 bus say Pioneer no train service…

      later people think SBST want to make more money only with the leg to Boon Lay… Later it’s still one big mess at Pioneer when MRT is disrupted… LOL

      That’s why proven… SLBP people there dun obey rules, dunno what’s going on [people’s feedback also anyhow pong]...

      The more chickenlittle2 defend SLBP… the more people rat out SLBP is contravening HQ’s order and worst breaching QoS this and that…

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • Yours truly reached BNL at 0810.. waited until 0819 to board 179A…

      SLBP… Really SBST should handover 179 to BBDEP

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • Whoever who wants to use data to analyse and like chickenlittle2 keep on defending SLBP… I see how you’re going to defend SLBP’s horrible acts…

      SLBP is like SMRT’s SPH, only think of money… Dunno how to solve the problem… Today I’m going to expose chickenlittle2’s defence which is all baseless… Cos SLBP dunno what’s going on… anyhow operate the buses…

      Dun say abt exams first…Slowly going to shame whoever that has been defending SLBP

      1) 179A not making money: Sometimes whenever feedback is sent over 179A is not operated for PM peak, the subsequent few days SLBP come with pattern… “SLBP will handle it”... In reality SLBP know nuts about demand management…

      Sometimes when the email is sent, SLBP next day chut pattern… Sometimes schedule the 179A to be bunching up [2x] dispatched together from 27281… and they’ll time it to be right behind 179 [Dun think people dunno… about tabulating runtime]...

      Some days, the 179A all starts from 27231…

      I thought to begin with, 179A is 50:50 dispatch from both 27281 and 27231?

      And when I mentioned about South Spine.. Next day all 179A starts from 27231…

      Let me say this la.. chickenlittle2 can deny for all he wants.. but already exposed… When I feedback to people at SBST over 179A in Aug 2010 and soon the downroute of 179A was made.. soon SLBP act smart thinking how come Braddell suddenly make downroute… and soon most of the 179A start from 27231 thinking it’s a new demand?

      The problem at South Spine was there for years and it only took my suggestion for the matter to be resolved? What on earth SLBP has been doing on the past few years?

      Only know how to manipulate things… decent things dun want to follow and do…

      2) Downroute: How come 96B got downroute operated as stipulated, SLBP keep on refusing to operate 179A properly…

      3) Exam Sat slot: There was once 179A was operated on Sat.. But SLBP went on to chut pattern… BNL Timekeeper tell people 179A not operated on the 2nd slot from Boon Lay.. only downroute from NTU

      Tell people the poster printed wrongly… Big liar!

      Nonsense! I checked with people at Braddell and verified SLBP chut pattern… End up company dispatched the bus to waste by SLBP… No wonder chickenlittle2 keep on saying 179A not making money.. cos anyhow operate…

      Not even complying to company’s rule… Woah…

      4) Today’s mess: 179A SLBP simply refused to operate properly… Freq was at 7 – 8 mins per bus…

      End up next time, thanks to the slow clearance.. people began queuing for 179… Next thing which I’m not surprised, people along Pioneer Rd Nth found it hard to board the bus.. Even at 0830, the boarding mess and underops was still there… Exam was supposed to start at 0900…

      Yeah now 179 very profitable.. but people late for exam… And I’ve followed up this matter to LTA

      BusAnalyser can say 179 more dispatch… But does he saw what happened at Boon Lay? End up the bottleneck was at Boon Lay cos nearly everyone alighted at Boon Lay today for some MRT trips…

      and like I’ve said.. SLBP dunno how to operate 179… 179A runtime is so much shorter, can turnaround faster with deploying lesser buses…

      But only think of “profits”... squeezing people… bus tiao at Pioneer Rd Nth as BC try to get as many people to board [upper deck still got some seat though]... lambat here, lambat there..

      people late for exam…

      As mentioned, have already highlighted this matter to LTA… See what chickenlittle2 still want to talk big about profit and loss…

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • Like I’ll say.. and people like negotiable are just making attacks…

      I’ll repeat this.. Dun stalk and attack on people… Dun want to reply dun bother typing

      1) If the MRT breaks down at Joo Koon, leaving with EWL trains turning around at Boon Lay… May I know what’s the contingency plan? How are passengers going to be quickly dispersed out of the congested Pioneer Stn bus stop?

      Say people anti SMRT this and that, then when MRT breakdown… Maybe the next thing go and ask why no shuttle bus, how come not enough bus to clear the crowd…

      negotiable can suggest something? Since you think I’m talking with no logic?

      2) The incident where the BC took no heed to wait for the alighting pax… The BC still has the right to scold passengers for not alighting quickly.

      Made matters worst, all the buses were operated as 179… Many of the buses fly stop at 27231 and 27251 except for alighting.

      Do people know how SLBP timekeeper used to make people squeeze on 179A during AM peak ops? Squeeze until the exit door of LO3x has problem closing! People even had problems alighting as there was people with no choice standing on the staircase leading to the upper deck.

      3) S241 BC flouting traffic rule, S179 BC stopping at 27211’s zig zag line whenever S179A is not operated, buses alighting pax at Pioneer Stn by parking along the road beside the S179 buses inside the bus stop bay… All these are condoned?

      4) S179A is not profitable. Chickenlittle2 is eating his own words. Many of the overoperated S179 are not even taking in pax into NTU with 10% loading factor. Why I’m saying 10% is because of the losses…

      The S179 bus is incurring runtime into NTU and yet it only collects some $0.80 – $2… Can this cover the additional time incurred in relation to manpower cost?

      Chickenlittle2 is better off working in the NTUC Fairprice. Because hearsay is that NTUC realised by running 24 hrs it’s not able to cover the additional cost [additional revenue cannot cover the cost incurred to run 24 hrs]... Since chickenlittle2 know how to defend, I think NTUC or Sheng Siong would like him, with knowing how to come with pattern to increase revenue at all cost..

      5) Overops issue and anti SMRT… Obviously negotiable is condoning illegal bus ops just for the purpose to say I’m anti SMRT

      If the bus get into accident, how to report the bus duty code? and made worst, many of these buses the BC does not even have the way bill with them onboard!

      and say I anti SMRT for not letting them to earn the revenue? I think negotiable is now attacking LTA then since it was their stipulated arrangement…

      Furthermore, I didn’t know negotiable is ok if his own bus sv he takes is underoperated just because ops staff say loading not high enough…

      Want to attack, better know what the matter is all about…

      anyway.. if the matter goes to the media, see what happens… like S190 case… buses not properly operated..

      Want to flame on people, dun end up eating your own words just to find it fun to attack on people…

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      Oh God. Again discussion on 179/179A. Full fleet DD with 28 buses. Not enough? Still want to complain. Frequency of 3-4 mins. Still want to complain. If one bus goes full, next bus right behind and can get a place to sit. Still want to complain!!!


      Excuse me... Bus is not even operated to begin with... Your other bus route, they anyhow come you can accept or not? Not about the frequency... It's how they dispatch the bus... Still want to defend over-ops.. If there's RTA, I see how they going to write the duty code of the bus involved..

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • eh… The title is not correct…

      Because of how SMRT’s charts its Financial Year… To SMRT, the same qtr is Q2

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • There are things that can be joked.. there’s some dun bother joking… esp it’s over QoS that comes w/ penalty…

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • Originally posted by Scania:


      Because they keep adding buses to 179A just to satisfy someone's needs.


      Eh... Excuse me... Not operated bus at all = satisfy someone's needs? So SBST's other bus svs suka suka can dun dispatch bus?

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    • Seriously… Spare the agony..

      If SLBP thinks 179 more demand or is because NTUSU or NTU admin staff asking for more 179… Then tell Braddell ppl to plan for 100% 179 ops during PM peak… at 2.5 mins freq with the same 23 buses…

      No more 27231 or 27281 downroute.. since SLBP want to pao jiak all the 10c or 20c inbound fare… 10c or 20c more profitable than earning $1.03 or $0.93!

      Later at BNL boarding bay, after 243G complete boarding ops… 3x S179 waiting behind if 1st bus was actually lambat by 1 min… Creating blockade at Int driveway…

      later at 27211 also block traffic…

      later South Spine there crowd cannot clear.. even until 8pm cannot clear…

      Then increase runtime for 241 as well… by 3 mins.. because of the Pioneer Stn ops… SLBP BCs over there anyhow alight people all these while.. 4th bus also alight pax cos all dun want to wait…

      That’s how SLBP say this kind of bus ops is the only way to be profitable…

      Tell people how be content with current ops… make all the other pax suffer only…

  • sbst275's Avatar
    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • ah yes.. Dun think I not sharp eye…

      S241 PM peak overoperated also… 2 mins effective freq..

      Buses obviously pulled over from 179A…

      Not the 1st time already…

      SLBP’s pattern dun think I dunno….

      The worst thing is S241 BC also dun observe traffic rule… At Jurong West St 91 turning to Pioneer Rd Nth still use left lane to do right turn… Nearly a daily affair…

      I think is scared of lambat at Pioneer Stn.. which SBST peeps at Braddell did not account for cos it’s not supposed to be there…

  • sbst275's Avatar
    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • There’s a fine line over over-operating buses…

      What happens if Pioneer Stn MRT station no train ops? Then people post photo of the bus stop mess.. so many 179 over-operated?

      Or 179A duty bus get into RTA while running as 179… How to file report to LTA vocational department?

      This kind of thing… Dun wait until trouble brews over illegal ops of buses before the axe begins to appear on people’s rice bowl…

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • and what’s surprising is over at NUS..

      BBDEP follows scheduler’s plan…. There’s 96B downroute from Kent Ridge Terminal to Clementi Int…

      Make downroute dun make money.. but how come RM at BBDEP follows it?

      SLBP cannot follow?

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

      Every bus of 179 takes at least 65-70 pax during AM peak with frequency of 03-05 mins. Again, can be more depending on certain timings. Clearly why they over-operate 179 compared to 179A.


      Eh... There are certain timebelt 2x S179A = 1x S179 dispatch... Which is why the stipulated freq is 3 - 6 mins. But in any case, there's still people who would take 179 from Boon Lay during AM peak... All thanks to what the timekeepers did in the past... Purposely make the 179A queue very long.. ask people to squeeze more.. then the pax who still cannot board.. make them wait another 10 mins for next bus... The squeeze until during LO3x era.. people can't even alight the bus at the first few bus stops inside NTU... Incur all the additional and waste runtime.. Then 179 over-operate... You can ask around people and they'll tell you SBST operating 179A is a joke.. sometimes no bus at all one... In the first place... SLBP people dunno how to manage high demand routes actually.. squeeze this squeeze that... lambat here, lambat there... dunno how to make the bus quickly turnaround and make sure the semi express variant is really semi express... If SLBP still want to play this.. Might as well they dun operate 179A at all.. All the PM peak 23 buses run as 179 since they like to collect all the 10c and 20c inbound DBTF... Then freq is at 2.5 mins per bus... Then see later South Spine people will complain or not... 7pm - 8pm mealbreak period S179 still cannot clear the crowd... Then at BNL boarding bay... 243G BC will get tulan or not... You make money is by making things efficient.. which is the schedulers job... Not going around chut pattern, delay this and that...

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • The S179 problem reminds me of how KMB in Hong Kong…

      In HK a lot of the peak hour special buses also has to incur dead mileages like 301, 43P…

      But people are still operating the buses because this arrangement is better than implementing an return leg that makes no sense to run. Quickly turnaround make another trip on another service already [for likes of 43P].

      As for what timetabling issues, it’s all based on estimation…

      End up now 179… SLBP likes to collect all the 10c, 20c than properly operating the main demand during the PM peak which cost 73c to 103c.

      1st time yours truly see people earn revenue by seeing the 10c, 20c business…

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • In the first place, what’s on the e-guide is 5 – 7 mins for S179 during the PM peak.

      Yet today, I still see S179 running at 4 mins.. The next thing was the brunching S179 blocking the road at 27211 because the 2nd bay is occupied by internal shuttle or S179A… That S179 bus was holding up traffic for some 1.5 mins…

      Then BC still want to stop inside zig zag line even after he has already signalled intension to move off… That began my suspicion… How come BC so nice, heck care abt traffic rule to pick up pax… Obviously SLBP manipulating bus schedule again…. only 179 plying 27211…. might as well pick up since next bus is 179 which would end up full… lor…

      Oh… S179 overoperated at 4 mins, S179A no bus… Freq at about 12 – 20 mins…

      The best is.. some S179 trips even entered NTU empty! Pioneer Rd Nth no passenger to bring in… So how now… Incur runtime and still no pax?

      The average over-operated S179 was about 5% loading into NTU… That’s like giving only some $0.80 of fare on average…. The outbound was full, average taking should be around $88… That’s with 55 mins of total runtime…

      The S179A corresponding trip took up about 90 passengers with taking at around $85 also… 42 mins of runtime…

      As for the data… Dun tell me what OSA.. The figure was given by LTA via corp comms… So dun jump into conclusion that all these info are sensitive… It’s all given openly…

      As for negotiable… Baseless allegation… Alrdy there’s 2 incidents of MRT BLE breaking down during the S179A PM peak slot within 1 month… Dun tell me there’s totally no loading/ bus stop mess happened at Pioneer Stn where pax of overoperated S179 alight… to find themselves to fight with those originally stranded at Pioneer for a bus to Boon Lay…

      This problem is compounded w/ all the factory buses, NTU shuttle bus pax.. All would be fighting for spaces on 179, 241, 255 & 257.

      It’s just like what happened at Bishan Stn in Dec 2011 when the NSL broke down… The CCL kept on feeding people… The next thing within 20 mins, the Bishan Rd northbound bus stop crowd had spilled over to the left lane…

      Furthermore, anti SMRT? Then explain why LTA simply is not re-routing 182 into Joo Koon Stn or Pioneer Stn right now? People work so far, they should be given access to nearest MRT Stn instead!

      There’s NTU students who has to do IA at Tuas South… So why no one is suggesting to LTA get 182 to ply Pioneer Stn instead?

      There’s obviously reasons behind all these…

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    • Originally posted by SBS5010P:

      Weekends and evening peak foreign workers alot. Mostly, i dun see many locals on board as i go to sengkang west frequently from serangoon. I think the load u are referring to is the ppl working in seletar area. Most of them alight at jalan kayu roundabout and some proceed on to YCK rd to xfer buses. 


      I think you still dun get it that there's Fernvale flats that has completed and people have begun residing... that's right beside Jln Kayu...

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    113,434 posts since Jun '04
    • Originally posted by SBS5010P:

      But most of its load comes from the foreign workers residing in the dormitories located at seletar farmway 2. There is the LRT which most residents prefer to commute to their workplace instead of taking 103 and change to MRT again.


      MRT/ LRT is not everything.. Some people might be taking 103 to somewhere along YCK Rd to x-fer to another bus? I've ever took a ride on 103 recently.. That trip happens to be mostly locals onboard along the main Jln Kayu