Should Singapore Review Its Notorious Drugs Law?
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Didnt know that animals has religion
Clearly u r avoiding the question on wat religion u belong to. Wat is your religion ? Or r u gonna tell me u r an animal and have no religion ?I would like to know if you have ever kill someone before.
No. Do u yourself or know anyone who had their home and life wrecked because of drugs ?2001 is the beginning of a up trend if you havent notice. Didnt you read news that drug user of estasy and Ketamine are on the rise and that fact was not reflected in this pcs of data.
Didn't u read tat tis is a world wide trend and all nations face tis problem ? However singapore appears to controlled the situation better than other foreign countries.This death sentence law has already been around for over 30 years, and if it is effective, why the number of drug offender is not below 100. Why is there still drugs coming into Singapore?
Tat is plain talk cock and shows your inmaturity. British laws have been around for centuries, why doesn't the number of crimes committed in British within a year get below 100 ? Why is there still crimes committed in british or america ? Since it doesn't reduce the crimes to below 100, then it must definitely be a lousy law system in place ? Please face reality. Only in the ideal world will people not resort to crimes.You dont need to have a religion to believe that there is a God. My conscious mind tell me that we must learn to forgive sinners and give hope to those who are in trouble, and that include people like you,
Just to clarify, I have no religion and I do not believe in a god. If u believe in a god, more or less u r already in a religion.
My conscience mind also realise tat there r always people who will not hesitate to commit crimes tat hurt other people for their own benefit. As such there is always a need for punishment to protect the general public. To be excessively kind to criminal is the same as encouraging them to do injustice to the innocent public.I am simply quoting what you have say about human are animals. so who is getting personal here?
I am saying tat scientifically speaking men r classified as animals. Your mum and dad r human, therefore they r classified as animals as well. Unless u r gonna tell me they r aliens, blockheads or rocks, then I will be wrong. Who is the one getting ignorant and personal here ?Is life imprisonment consider KIND?
Is letting your children and family members get hooked to drugs "kind" ? U know nothing about the problem of drugs. -
Interpretation in Singapore :
Till the end of nature life.
So wat is your point by telling us the idea of life imprisonment from different coutnries ? Out of point. -
We all have different education back groud and understanding of laws in different country. The reason is to make sure that we are all talking about the same thing.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Interpretation in Singapore :
Till the end of nature life.
So wat is your point by telling us the idea of life imprisonment from different coutnries ? Out of point. -
What do you expect to happen if Singapore decided to remove the death penalty?Originally posted by stupidissmart:Is letting your children and family members get hooked to drugs "kind" ? U know nothing about the problem of drugs. -
I expect more drug traffickers to appear, more drugs to be in singapore, more people get hooked and more chances your families, friends and loved one to become a drug addict.
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Originally posted by stupidissmart:I expect more drug traffickers to appear, more drugs to be in singapore, more people get hooked and more chances your families, friends and loved one to become a drug addict.
That is precisely what is on my mind. -
Life goes on as usual. Nothing much will cahnge. Stockholm has no capital punishment, yet it feels safe as Singapore. I expect the same for our city.Originally posted by Gazelle:What do you expect to happen if Singapore decided to remove the death penalty? -
Instead of going into the "cure" part. Why shouldn't we focus on the "prevention" part?
Give them knowledge on the consequences of their action and let them choose. -
Are you saying that by removing the death sentence punishment, we are opening the flood gate to hell. And drugs will be available freely in the streets, and CNB will take a long break from work and custom office will all bring their dogs for a garden walk?Originally posted by stupidissmart:I expect more drug traffickers to appear, more drugs to be in singapore, more people get hooked and more chances your families, friends and loved one to become a drug addict.
How did you come to this conclusion? -
Life goes on as usual. Nothing much will cahnge. Stockholm has no capital punishment, yet it feels safe as Singapore. I expect the same for our city.
Instead of comparing lives on different cultures, history and people, we should consider the effects relative to itself. If drug trafficking does not go with a death penalty in singapore, do u think the situation of drug abuse will worsen ? If stockholm enforce drug trafficking with a death penalty, will the drug problem situation improves ? -
Whoever licks the bleached boots of the man in white will say the same thing. If you are objective enough, you will refrain from such sweeping comments.Originally posted by Gazelle:Are you saying that by removing the death sentence punishment, we are opening the flood gate to hell. And drugs will be available freely in the streets, and CNB will take a long break from work and custom office will all bring their dogs for a garden walk?
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Are you saying that by removing the death sentence punishment, we are opening the flood gate to hell. And drugs will be available freely in the streets, and CNB will take a long break from work and custom office will all bring their dogs for a garden walk?
It will not be tat dramatic. When death sentence was not enforced, more people will risk to become a drug trafficker. Surely u should know tat people do fear death more than jail. When more people become traffickers, the amount of drugs is going to increase. When supply increases, drugs will be more accessible to the people. When drugs become more accessible to people, more people will be addicted to it. When more people addicted to it, the higher chances your family, friends and loved ones will be addicted to it. Need to elaborate further ? R u going to say the above will not happened ?
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It will not be tat dramatic,Originally posted by stupidissmart:It will not be tat dramatic. When death sentence was not enforced, more people will risk to become a drug trafficker. Surely u should know tat people do fear death more than jail. When more people become traffickers, the amount of drugs is going to increase. When supply increases, drugs will be more accessible to the people. When drugs become more accessible to people, more people will be addicted to it. When more people addicted to it, the higher chances your family, friends and loved ones will be addicted to it. Need to elaborate further ? R u going to say the above will not happened ?
In economics, an increase in supply does not always mean an increase in demand and the same is true here. Therefore it is wrong to say that if there is more drugs coming to Singapore (which i doubt so), more people will consume them.
Singapore government are not corrupted like in certain 3rd world countries, therefore removing the death sentence it is unlikely that we will see more drug activities in Singapore.
Death penalty has little effect to deter trafficker, because any risk can be compensated with money.
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+1.Originally posted by Gazelle:Singaporeans are highly educated people and majority will stay away from drugs regardless of death penalty.
That's the reason why Scandinavian crime rates ahve remained low despite the scrapping of capital punishment so many years ago. I feel equally safe walking the streets of Stockholm or Copenhagen as I do in Singapore. -
Drugs consumption has no relation with culture, history and the color of your skin.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Instead of comparing lives on different cultures, history and people, we should consider the effects relative to itself. If drug trafficking does not go with a death penalty in singapore, do u think the situation of drug abuse will worsen ? If stockholm enforce drug trafficking with a death penalty, will the drug problem situation improves ?
Unless there are scientific proof that dealth penalty can help deter drug abuse, one should not make the assumption it will help "improve" life.
Developed countries are mentally well developed enough to make decision, regardless if it is good or bad. Should someone choose to take drugs, that is their choice. Why should a country like stockholm wanna sacrific someone's life just to protect those who choose to take drugs. -
stockholm is not a country. it is the capital city of SwedenOriginally posted by Gazelle:Drugs consumption has no relation with culture, history and the color of your skin.
Unless there are scientific proof that dealth penalty can help deter drug abuse, one should not make the assumption it will help "improve" life.
Developed countries are mentally well developed enough to make decision, regardless if it is good or bad. Should someone choose to take drugs, that is their choice. Why should a country like stockholm wanna sacrific someone's life just to protect those who choose to take drugs.
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In economics, an increase in supply does not always mean an increase in demand and the same is true here. Therefore it is wrong to say that if there is more drugs coming to Singapore (which i doubt so), more people will consume them.
Not true, under tis situation the demand for drug is cut off because the supply side is controlled. In economics, tis is the phenomenon where price will increase a lot and therefore reduces demand. If we increase the supply of drugs, naturally the demand will increase. Otherwise why do people pay so much for grass ? If we allow more drugs to be in, the supply will increase, price will fall, more people will get associated with drugs and therefore more people will be hooked to drugs. Tis will bring about more demand and further increase the supply to meet tis demand. As can be seen it will be a viscious cycle. The nature state of demand may be many times more than the controlled supply of goods or products. Let me ask u, if price of cigerrettes reduce, do u expect more people to be smokers or less ?
Why don't u explain why does an increase in amount of drugs not increase the number of addicts here ?Singapore government are not corrupted like in certain 3rd world countries, therefore removing the death sentence it is unlikely that we will see more drug activities in Singapore.
People who easily get influenced by people. It has nothing to do with the Gov. When more people become drug addicts, they will influence more people to be like them. Why link Gov with tis ?Death penalty has little effect to deter trafficker, because any risk can be compensated with money.
Surely it will demand MORE money and LESS people to become drug trafficker if there is a death sentence. As such the supply side of drugs can be controlled. Little effect ? HardlySingaporeans are highly educated people and majority will stay away from drugs regardless of death penalty.
Sorry man, in every society there r always people who r not highly educated. they will be the one tat will suffer because of your leniency towards drug trafficker. Addiction has nothing to do with a person education either. Even the very educated people can get to be hooked on cigerettes or gambling Note tat it only need 1 trafficker to ruin hundreds of lives.Drugs consumption has no relation with culture, history and the color of your skin.
I am comparing the lives of different people, not only drug activity. It is just like crimes rate in a nation. Certainly richer countries r less prone to theft than poorer countries. We shouldn't compared singapore with europe, which education reached for centuries and being rich for donkeys years.
Furthermore, your assumption tat drug consumption has no relations with culture, history or color is wrong. In singapore, malays r more prone to drug abuse. It is a clear evidence tat drug abuse do have relationships with culture and races. In america the negroes r likely to be drug addicts than caucasians. Countries which have lesser control of drugs have more addicts than countries which enforce tight control of them. If u want to compare, why don't u compare with worse off countries like South America ?Unless there are scientific proof that dealth penalty can help deter drug abuse, one should not make the assumption it will help "improve" life.
I thought tis is common sense ? The more harsher the punishment the less people will commit it. Why will it logically not decrease the number of drug trafficker ? The number of drug abuse in singapore is significantly lower than the rest of the worldDeveloped countries are mentally well developed enough to make decision, regardless if it is good or bad. Should someone choose to take drugs, that is their choice. Why should a country like stockholm wanna sacrific someone's life just to protect those who choose to take drugs.
There r many different people in the world. Some people r more gulible and more dependent on their peers. It is the same as protecting women below 14 by introducing a law tat states having sex with them is considered rape, irregardless of whether is she willing or not. Why should singapore sacrifice the lives of these innocent people by letting drug traffickers lightly. Surely these drug traffickers know how harmful drugs is to people. -
I believe the reason Singapore is save is no longer due to its harsh law and death penalty, but rather our mental development over the years.Originally posted by iveco:+1.
That's the reason why Scandinavian crime rates ahve remained low despite the scrapping of capital punishment so many years ago. I feel equally safe walking the streets of Stockholm or Copenhagen as I do in Singapore.
In 1975 when death penalty was first introduce, Sinapore Human Developement Index score was only 0.722, similar to current ranking for China, Tunisia and Uzbekistan. And today, Singapore is ranked 23, with HMI of 0.884, similar to those of Spain and Italy. (See below)
Therefore I believe that the effect of abolishing of death penalty on drug offence will not be like what stupidismarts has describe. in fact if we do that, I am sure Singapore will move up another few notches in the HMI index.
2004 Ranking
1. Norway 0.942
2. Sweden 0.941
3. Canada 0.940
4. Belgium 0.939
5. Australia 0.939
6. United States 0.939
7. Iceland 0.936
8. Netherlands 0.935
9. Japan 0.933
10. Finland 0.930
11. Switzerland 0.928
12. United Kingdom 0.928
13. France 0.928
14. Austria 0.926
15. Denmark 0.926
16. Germany 0.925
17. Ireland 0.925
18. Luxembourg 0.925
19. New Zealand 0.917
20. Italy 0.913
21. Spain 0.913
22. Israel 0.896
23. Singapore 0.885
24. Greece 0.885
25. Cyprus 0.883
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Will you become a drug addict?Originally posted by stupidissmart:Why don't u explain why does an increase in amount of drugs not increase the number of addicts here ? -
JK Rowling enuff to get me high. No need drugs.Originally posted by Gazelle:Will you become a drug addict?
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If a government is corrupted, drugs traffickers will be able to function in Singapore without the fear of being caught or punish. If what you say is true, i would assume that half the world population will be drug addicts by now. Since more countries in this world does not have death penalty for drug offences.Originally posted by stupidissmart:People who easily get influenced by people. It has nothing to do with the Gov. When more people become drug addicts, they will influence more people to be like them. Why link Gov with tis ? -
Drugs only serve to enhance nature's process of selection, the weak-minded ones die out because they need a substance to run their lives and mood swings.Therefore, if they choose to consume, all those that are affected have only themselves to blame for being sucked into the habit.No point bloodying our hands.They made a choice to consume, let their genes be cleansed from our pool, which has seen lotsa scum growing over the years.
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Diminishing effectOriginally posted by stupidissmart:Surely it will demand MORE money and LESS people to become drug trafficker if there is a death sentence. As such the supply side of drugs can be controlled. Little effect ? Hardly -
Abolishing the death penalty should not be seen as being lenient toward traffickers but rather trying to be more humane.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Sorry man, in every society there r always people who r not highly educated. they will be the one tat will suffer because of your leniency towards drug trafficker. Addiction has nothing to do with a person education either. Even the very educated people can get to be hooked on cigerettes or gambling Note tat it only need 1 trafficker to ruin hundreds of lives.
Do you think the selling drugs in Singapore can be as easy as selling candy to kids in kindergarden? -
Education!! Not color of your skin!!Originally posted by stupidissmart:Furthermore, your assumption tat drug consumption has no relations with culture, history or color is wrong. In singapore, malays r more prone to drug abuse. It is a clear evidence tat drug abuse do have relationships with culture and races. In america the negroes r likely to be drug addicts than caucasians. Countries which have lesser control of drugs have more addicts than countries which enforce tight control of them. If u want to compare, why don't u compare with worse off countries like South America ?