Those in the teaching profession...
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not surprising la.. look at advertisement...all bull shit one..
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Just like nurses as well. It happens everywhereOriginally posted by foxwalk:i personally feel that teachers don't have appropriate and adequate outlets to fight for rights or staff welfare... -
irony.. on one hand they encourage people to speak up on the other hand they thumb down the same people..they fail to realise wat the meaning of constructive feedback...
many of my friends once have aspiration to go for the leadership track..but now many of us just wan to be happy ordinary teachers;..we may earn lesser but we r happy..
imagine holidays:
HODs come back plan timetable & do COS duty
normal teachers started their hols loh...
HODs head this project head tat project..
normal teachers just follow instructions..do & fly off
HODS supervise people..deal wif reports..
normal teachers their own world...where got time..?
HODS stress wan to step down..principal say xiao u got replacement?
normal teachers where got time?
I am proud to say I am a happy ordinary teacher drawing a decent pay & wif ample time wif my family,friends & pursue my hobbies....
is like SAF..higher rank, more work not necessary more pay.imagine i go back reservist..
cpl & below time to rest = rest
3SG & above- ops meeting but still can rest & chat wif man..not too bad..
LTA & above- ops meetings + meetings wif CO,S1,S2..
working life stress already come in reservist more stress..
anyway i am a low ranking soldier..enjoy life..enjoy reservist..YEA!!!! -
whether the child score well depends on lots of factors. U can't simply **poison the whole village because of 1 rat. **Originally posted by JusticeLegal:Another mail from a spineless teacher
This shows how pathetic these teachers are. They are cowards who do not dare to voice their comments out in public and enage in a fair debate. I feel pity for your students and perhaps your decendents. It is will a generation of spineless goons who can only attack people from the sidelines.
Anyway, I have taught in tuition centres, and I give individual tuition I believe this is more than enough for me to gauge the performance of teachers here. I really pity students who are taught by people who are not innovative and choose to blame it on students lack of ability and worse..lack of discipline. When all my kids come crying to me about the verbal attacks by teachers, my heart goes out to them literally. So teachers, let this be a food for thought. You all should justify what you are paid. -
A question..to all fellow teachers
if prinipcal ask u..
1) to work until 9 pm at night
2) sat burn stay till 5pm..even though 5 days work week has started..
& he said "he don't care about ministry order of 5 day work week..cos..the reason being.."principal is given the autonomy to run school..."
any way can complain yet safe guard ricebowl..also the principal is one sadist... -
Write letter to MOE or Teacher's Union?
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i doubt if it's of much use.Originally posted by greengoblin:Write letter to MOE or Teacher's Union? -
hope it works.. i thot PM lee encourages people to email him..wonder if this work..i agree wif u..moe side may not be of much use..
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To Justice Legal,
Do you have a personal vendetta against teachers??? From your posts,yYou just can't seem to appreciate what they are doing and you just can't stop belittling them in all aspects? -
I respect the teaching profession but teachers nowadays do not have a single bit of self respect in themselves. Nowadays they are self seeking and aiming for the promotion and extra dole out rather than work for the children that we entrust in their hands. My purpose here is to wake them upOriginally posted by Doenitz:To Justice Legal,
Do you have a personal vendetta against teachers??? From your posts,yYou just can't seem to appreciate what they are doing and you just can't stop belittling them in all aspects?
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legal justice..
u moe spy is it?
ai yo u really have traumatic experience wif teachers before?
is it when u younger..got teacher touch your back side is it. then u now so anti..one?
wat ever u say la.. tired of arguing wif some morons who talk as though u know the systems.. just bcos u r one tiny puny tuition teacher not even nie trained.. chey...i shall not reply to your post from now on..waste my time.... -
before we launch into personal attacks, should we not consider if some teachers do need to reflect on their profession and professionalism?
and if we do call teaching a profession, should it not be bound by its set of professional integrity and code of conduct?
doctors, for one thing, are bound by the hippocratic oath, that above all, "do no harm" ... one wonders if teachers themselves appreciate the responsibilities that they have been entrusted with.
in recent years, one sees a drastic increase in the number of younger teachers for a simple reason: the size of the paycheck which has increased substantially to make it attractive for fresh graduates in these uncertain times.
dodgy individuals totally lacking in integrity and sense of decency are rushing in to sign up because of this... though good people still exist in the profession, there are more and more rotten apples finding their way in.
if u ask me, the paycheck is peanuts if one considers the amount of time that a proper teacher is expected to devote to the profession. i have too much respect for the profession to judge it based on size of the paycheck.
but what are we to think of those who only wanna stay school hours, never put in the extra effort, never go the extra mile, and who basically isn't interested in making a difference or even having an interest in their student's welfare at all???
what are us taxpayers paying for then? 7:30am - 1:30pm teachers??? at a salary about 40% higher than an entry level job in the private sector?
get real... if they're paid so much, the least they can do is give it our money's worth. -
Majoity of teachers are doing their best to be innovative and trying to engage teachers. MOE are pushing them hard for them to be innovative. TEACH LESS LEARN MORE
Every yr principals are evaluating teachers on their performance, base on their class results, training etc. Teachers who are not doing well are given D grade. there goes their bonuses and promotio chances. so teachers who are not putting in effort deserve it. However there are those who put in effort but are not appreaciated by their superiors cos they are marked ! some are marked because they dare to voice out ....
Majority of teachers are outting in effort, but the problem lies in PARENTS nowdays ! They pamper their kids too much. Kids end up been rude in sch and refuses to do work etc. when parents are contacted, they side their kids instead. But in the other hand they want their kids to do well !!
At my freind's sch, the DM is afraid of a boy. he is untouchable, to an extend tat they let the boy dye his hair, and numerous quarrels( near fights) with teachers end up go unreported. Its because the boy's parents are those uncooperative parents who always side their child. School so scared the parents will report all the wy 2 MOE.
Seriously there are many factors to consider a child's performance, and dont blame the teachers TOTALLY ! we teachers are not GOD !!!
AS I SAID MANY TIMES JUSTICELEGAL BE A TEACHER AND THEN U KNOW WHY TEACHERS PAY ARE JUSTIFIED, AND STOP PICKING ON THE PAY !! FACING KIDS WHO DARE TO CHALLENGE U 2 A FIGHT, ARGUEMENTS ETC ... DO U HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO FACE IT ?!!
COS TEACHERS EARN MORE THAN YOU TATS WHY U ARE JEALOUS, DEAR PRIVATE TUTOR !
SINCE U ANTI TEACHERS SO MUCH, I AM NOT SURPRISE U WILL BE ONE OF THOSE UGLY SPORE PARENTS WHO COMPLAINT COMPLAINT WHEN THEIR CHILD DONT DO WELL IN SCH !
THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY A CHILD MIGHT BE LIKE TAT, ONE MIGHT B COS THE PARENT SUCX, ........ OR MAYBE THE CHILD IS SIMPLY RETARTED! -
Woken up~Originally posted by JusticeLegal:I respect the teaching profession but teachers nowadays do not have a single bit of self respect in themselves. Nowadays they are self seeking and aiming for the promotion and extra dole out rather than work for the children that we entrust in their hands. My purpose here is to wake them up
Thanx for waking me and here it goes~
FUCK OFF!!!
KNN which profession got no bad apple?
Teachers must all be saints ah?
Balls to u~
WAIT!!!! b4 u fuck off, pls
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Sounds like stories I heard from other nurses where patients demand that they pick up the trash that patients themselves throw because they "paid for the service".Originally posted by CX:before we launch into personal attacks, should we not consider if some teachers do need to reflect on their profession and professionalism?
and if we do call teaching a profession, should it not be bound by its set of professional integrity and code of conduct?
doctors, for one thing, are bound by the hippocratic oath, that above all, "do no harm" ... one wonders if teachers themselves appreciate the responsibilities that they have been entrusted with.
in recent years, one sees a drastic increase in the number of younger teachers for a simple reason: the size of the paycheck which has increased substantially to make it attractive for fresh graduates in these uncertain times.
dodgy individuals totally lacking in integrity and sense of decency are rushing in to sign up because of this... though good people still exist in the profession, there are more and more rotten apples finding their way in.
if u ask me, the paycheck is peanuts if one considers the amount of time that a proper teacher is expected to devote to the profession. i have too much respect for the profession to judge it based on size of the paycheck.
but what are we to think of those who only wanna stay school hours, never put in the extra effort, never go the extra mile, and who basically isn't interested in making a difference or even having an interest in their student's welfare at all???
what are us taxpayers paying for then? 7:30am - 1:30pm teachers??? at a salary about 40% higher than an entry level job in the private sector?
get real... if they're paid so much, the least they can do is give it our money's worth.
Face it , Singapore , being a country who is touted to be in the ranks of the developed nations , has one of the worst pay rates I ever seen. Teachers, nurses and other workers are paid low wages for the so called low taxes ...in the end the citizen is responsible for himself/herself plus family thrown in . You pay taxes to gain some benefits like health, social support etc but the healthcare system back home reminds me of the american HMO system in its beginnings . Frankly social support of aging parents are thrust upon a child - so what social support? Unions? WHAT UNIONS? NTUC union card is better as a shopping/chalet discount card than a union that looks after the workers' welfare.
Yeah we should all get real and look at what kind of pay the top level have compared to the rockbottom minions. -
leagl justice xiao mei mei..
long time no hear...where r u..miss your nonsense...post some leh.. -
Let Sleeping Trolls lie.... why you want to agitate the Troll
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well we need legal jusitce xiao mei mei to once a while make some stupid comments so tat all of us can thump her down..hehehehe
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provoking ppl does not make u a saint either
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U seem to behave more like those cheeky monkeys (students) than a teacher!Originally posted by tomhunk:well we need legal jusitce xiao mei mei to once a while make some stupid comments so tat all of us can thump her down..hehehehe -
hahahaha teachers got rouge got good..i belong to the rouge ones
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JusticeLegal,
Are you a goddamn bloody moron, or are you a goddamn bloody moron?
Allow me to reiterate the fact that
TUITION IS NOT = TEACHING
Yes, I know that I'm only 18 this year, and in a friggin' poly, but don't go around belittling the people who pulled up my L1R5 grade of 40 to 17. I might not have been a model student (in fact, I was FAR from being one), but after having spent 10 years in a conventional school system, I might've hated them to hell when I was under them, but I have come to respect them for taking all of that crap from me and others, but are still willing to help me with my grades when I asked them to.
WHAT OTHER SORT OF PEOPLE WOULD DO THAT FOR YOU?!
If you can name me ONE person besides your mother, a tuition teacher or everyone else you personally know who would do that for you, you can say whatever the hell you like about teachers. -
the verdict is out i declare legal justice xiao mei mei lose..no appeal allow
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Here is a post from my favorite teacher...laff...gosh I really wonder how MOE get morons like him to come in. Friend, perhaps you should bleach yourself and make your skin white and your hair blonde...stupid spinless moron...Now I know why teachers have no passion from your post. You all passionless creatures are treating the poor kids like vermin... this is really pathetic... you all should reflect on your behaviour.
from mohanraj0085
This shows who is the retarded person... coloured moron
Seriously there are many factors to consider a child's performance, and
dont blame the teachers TOTALLY ! we teachers are not GOD !!!
AS I SAID MANY TIMES JUSTICELEGAL BE A TEACHER AND THEN U KNOW WHY
TEACHERS PAY ARE JUSTIFIED, AND STOP PICKING ON THE PAY !! FACING KIDS WHO
DARE TO
CHALLENGE U 2 A FIGHT, ARGUEMENTS ETC ... DO U HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO
FACE IT ?!!
COS TEACHERS EARN MORE THAN YOU TATS WHY U ARE JEALOUS, DEAR PRIVATE
TUTOR !
SINCE U ANTI TEACHERS SO MUCH, I AM NOT SURPRISE U WILL BE ONE OF THOSE
UGLY SPORE PARENTS WHO COMPLAINT COMPLAINT WHEN THEIR CHILD DONT DO WELL
IN SCH !
THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY A CHILD MIGHT BE LIKE TAT, ONE MIGHT B COS
THE PARENT SUCX BIG TIME, ........ OR MAYBE THE CHILD IS SIMPLY RETARTED! -
Quote from justicelegal:
Here is a post from my favorite teacher...laff...gosh I really wonder how MOE get morons like him to come in. Friend, perhaps you should bleach yourself and make your skin white and your hair blonde...stupid spinless moron...Now I know why teachers have no passion from your post. You all passionless creatures are treating the poor kids like vermin... this is really pathetic... you all should reflect on your behaviour.
No point arguening with u cos u are a retarded no guts moron !!! After so long this moron justicelegal still got no guts to become a teacher ...... NO BALLS.
I have the passion thats why i am still in MOE after so many years
...... waiting for my long service award that i truely deserve.
Pity u justicelegal ..... cos you got no BALLS to enter this prefession