Yasser Arafat 1929-2004
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He has passed on without seeing his dream of an independant Palestine.Do you think the Palestinian Authority can acheive this goal and push for moderation in actions relating to Israel or do you think they will let the Al-Aqsa Martyrs / HAMAS free rein in the territories?
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he died??
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actually, i think with him out of the way, there is more chances of finding peace...
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he was a terrorist?Originally posted by the Bear:actually, i think with him out of the way, there is more chances of finding peace...
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The PLA is a terrorist organization?Originally posted by BaByBoY:he was a terrorist? -
PLO.Not PLA.Yes, he passed away at 1030Hrs SG time.Some called him a terrorist,but he was more palatable than scum like Abu Zarqawi today.At least he had a higher calling for nationalism.
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he planned the Munich thing in '76...
and lots more other terrorist mayhem..
and yes.. the PLO is a terror organisation... i don't think they ever removed that part in their manifesto about the destruction of Israel...Originally posted by LazerLordz:PLO.Not PLA.Yes, he passed away at 1030Hrs SG time.Some called him a terrorist,but he was more palatable than scum like Abu Zarqawi today.At least he had a higher calling for nationalism. -
Actually, I feel that Palestine is not at fault about the violence. Imagine your home being invaded by foreigners. Would you like it? Well, they have no other choice but to resort to violence in order to fend off the Invaders. So Israel is at fault. No wonder Jeruslaem is a cursed land. So much violence bcos Israel started it.Originally posted by LazerLordz:PLO.Not PLA.Yes, he passed away at 1030Hrs SG time.Some called him a terrorist,but he was more palatable than scum like Abu Zarqawi today.At least he had a higher calling for nationalism. -
The PLO wasnt started by Arafat. It was started by some fanatics. Arafat started the PLA which is not really a terrorist organization. Just a freedom movement.
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you have to read the history....
the "Palestinians" and the Jewish people were supposed to share the new nation called Israel...
well, the Palestinians made straight the path for the Arabs to march right into the heart of the new Jewish nation..
how would you, if you were Israel, react?
anyhoooo... so far, it was Arafat who rejected everything.. even when everything he demanded was given to him, he rejected it and started the Intifadah..
which is why i said with him out of the way, maybe there is a chance for peace...Originally posted by shade343:Actually, I feel that Palestine is not at fault about the violence. Imagine your home being invaded by foreigners. Would you like it? Well, they have no other choice but to resort to violence in order to fend off the Invaders. So Israel is at fault. No wonder Jeruslaem is a cursed land. So much violence bcos Israel started it. -
Well, as they say, one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.It depends on which side of the coin.A grieving mother of an Palestinian youth asks the same thing as a grieving mother of an young Israeli soldier.."WHY?"
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he died at the age of 75.
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But I thought Israel wasnt supposed to exist in the first place? It was after WW2 then the americans created the country and dump the jews there rite?Originally posted by the Bear:you have to read the history....
the "Palestinians" and the Jewish people were supposed to share the new nation called Israel...
well, the Palestinians made straight the path for the Arabs to march right into the heart of the new Jewish nation..
how would you, if you were Israel, react?
anyhoooo... so far, it was Arafat who rejected everything.. even when everything he demanded was given to him, he rejected it and started the Intifadah..
which is why i said with him out of the way, maybe there is a chance for peace... -
nope...
wasn't "dump"..
btw, think about this: Arafat is Egyptian...
Palestine was a place as a description.. sorta like The Sahara was..Originally posted by shade343:But I thought Israel wasnt supposed to exist in the first place? It was after WW2 then the americans created the country and dump the jews there rite? -
it is being prophesize in the Bible that the nation will be build. Jews were all ove rthe world at that time.Originally posted by shade343:But I thought Israel wasnt supposed to exist in the first place? It was after WW2 then the americans created the country and dump the jews there rite?
Israel Palestine issue is not that simple. -
If those 2 countries have peace, get ready for the 2nd coming of Christ !
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second coming?
hmm christ will come in...one thousand years later?
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It might be more of a metaphorical coming of Christ, pardon me if I have offended any Christians here, I'm a Christian myself.Anyway,the Middle East situation can really be said to be a litmus test of our civilisation for the past 2000 years.It is the longest struggle between two religions and if they can lay down their arms, the world would probably experience a huge paradigm shift in thinking too.We might actually be able to begin solving things without the use of force and war as an instrument of control.Perhaps that would "be" the Second Coming.We would be on the path to a more graceful and united human race.
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amen to that brother. war or no war, i pray everyday that i will not have to take up arms..
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Yes.Well said.
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err... didnt the bible say that there won't be peace in the holy land ?
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It was the Jews who defied God and put his own son to death. God then raised Jesus up but again, the descendants of Judah wouldn't believe. By right, the ultimate punishment should be loss of nationhood permanently.Originally posted by shade343:But I thought Israel wasnt supposed to exist in the first place? It was after WW2 then the americans created the country and dump the jews there rite? -
This one must get Neon and SIS to comment
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Crap. A nation lost, people are homeless, and people haughtily attribute this to Jews denial of Christ as son of God.Originally posted by iveco:It was the Jews who defied God and put his own son to death. God then raised Jesus up but again, the descendants of Judah wouldn't believe. By right, the ultimate punishment should be loss of nationhood permanently.
Whats next? Muslim terorrism as punishment to Christians who do not believe Muhammed is the prophet of God? -
exactly!
do not blame God for the consequences of your own actions... for He gave you free will.. and sentience to choose the right thing to do...Originally posted by laurence82:Crap. A nation lost, people are homeless, and people haughtily attribute this to Jews denial of Christ as son of God.
Whats next? Muslim terorrism as punishment to Christians who do not believe Muhammed is the prophet of God?