A 14 year old boy is sentenced to 85 lashes
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yuh...its the way u intepret it....
some interpret it to the letter...while others like me...grasp the majority of the positive teachings...and lay off on the negative-sounding ones....plus somehow...
i dislike those overly righteous kinda ppl...
certain things that i find confusing in some people...
such as this contradiction...
oh..i had premarital sex....
but i dont drink cos its against religion...
not saying that i am innocent or anything... -
i wouldnt say their god...Originally posted by nightzip:
Thats the problem with muslims, they tend to be EXTREMISTS!
they are always so adamant on their points of view, dogmatic, and thought that everything they do is for their religion. I believe the religion (their GOD) wouldnt want the boy to die rite? its just their own individual thinking.
christianity(even catholicism..correct me if i am wrong), judaism, Islam(we call him by different names of course) have the same god...its how we worship the one above....i wouldnt say muslims tend to be extremists....
i'm muslim...and i hate the extremists from my kind...the way i see it...the extremists makes the other muslims look bad and ridiculed by others... -
this is cz.. poor boy!
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well...eating pork is not allowed...Originally posted by all_souls:x2
THey simply misinterprete them. Their mouth hold the religion so high up with great esteem... but as i have seen... 9 failed out of 10. eg eating pork, having piercing, premarital sex, drinking n many more. So u see?
premarital sex is not allowed(but in this age....haiz*shakes head*almost everyone wanna have sex)
piercings are onli allowed in women..
drinking...well of course not allowed....
i never done these things by the way....its not really true that muslims hold the religion so high up....
the way i see things from my point of view(i stand to be corrected) is that...
some of them(i say some not all) just couldnt be bothered in following an inflexible religion(in their point of view)...they get influenced by modern times that they just throw away their religion..(i think this occurs in the other religions)...
if u ask me...being muslim is one of the toughest things to do....but i still manage to do it..(i still have some rough edges but i still manage better than some)....
the main point is...
nobody is perfect....
as in the middle east issue in the beginning thread...
when someone comes of age...the term is called baligh...
becos he has come of age...he falls under the strict laws that is found over there...and that place being Iran(Iran right?...i cant read the thread while posting this)...holds Islamic law over all things...and follows it word by word...
hope nobody finds what i said offensive or rude..
btw...i'm not representing any group of people...just representing myself and my thoughts on these issues -
as in the middle east issue in the beginning thread...
Yup, agreed. But even that, you dun need to execute all the 84 strokes of cane at a single lashing rite??
when someone comes of age...the term is called baligh...
becos he has come of age...he falls under the strict laws that is found over there...and that place being Iran(Iran right?...i cant read the thread while posting this)...holds Islamic law over all things...and follows it word by word...
hope nobody finds what i said offensive or rude..
Duh, i think even an adult cannot stand it, let to say a kid? Well, don't they EVER USE common sense?
They can like cane 5 times, wait 1 month for the fellow to recover, then cane another few times etc? or convert the caning to something else, like ask him to serve the mosque for a year under the direction of the monk etc? so many many ways...show that they are mob. -
In Iran, got gals kena 100 alsoOriginally posted by nightzip:Yup, agreed. But even that, you dun need to execute all the 84 strokes of cane at a single lashing rite??
Duh, i think even an adult cannot stand it, let to say a kid? Well, don't they EVER USE common sense?
They can like cane 5 times, wait 1 month for the fellow to recover, then cane another few times etc? or convert the caning to something else, like ask him to serve the mosque for a year under the direction of the monk etc? so many many ways...show that they are mob. -
The Iranians are bunch of violent, sadistic & babaric ppl even without them having the tots of the religion in thier mind.
*PUI KNS*
I bet u $1000 that these Iranians even they are not muslim they will also be equally violent & inhumane given the nature surroundings that they are brought up with.
KNN sia...they are juz using thier religion to cover up their acts of brutality....
In fact, they are the upsetting & distorting the teachings of Allah.......
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That's for adultery, right? If a rape victim can't produce 4 male witnesses, that's the penalty she pays.Originally posted by sbst275:In Iran, got gals kena 100 also -
For indecency in public... Caned on the bare and in publicOriginally posted by iveco:That's for adultery, right? If a rape victim can't produce 4 male witnesses, that's the penalty she pays. -
To all gals out here...u are so luck to be in sg as the government protects the gals here....dun ever think of migrating to other places juz becos the other side of the world gives a better offer........Originally posted by iveco:That's for adultery, right? If a rape victim can't produce 4 male witnesses, that's the penalty she pays.
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the religion can be damn strict due to misinterpretation....i'm just thankful that i am in singapore....sometimes olden way of thinking..doesnt make sense....just be thankful that such things does not happen here...
the way i see it..
if anyone doesnt wanna fast...or do wat he/she supposed to do as decreed by religion...let he/she answer to god....
never met out crazy punishments such as insane number of lashings....let god do his job when the time comes...
well..thats my 2 cents.... -
But they are over-protected liaoOriginally posted by larrenV2.003:To all gals out here...u are so luck to be in sg as the government protects the gals here....dun ever think of migrating to other places juz becos the other side of the world gives a better offer........ -
Originally posted by sbst275:But they are over-protected liao
That's the problem we r facing now..... 
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They shld be given corporal punishment for crying forl for rape... KNNOriginally posted by larrenV2.003: That's the problem we r facing now..... -
I like your style dude.If only more of the world sees through your eyes, we would have a more consultative planet.However, it is interesting t onote that the harsh desert environment does do strange things to one's beliefs, no matter what they might be.Perhaps it's the life in a bleak land that makes people's hearts stone, but there is still no excuse for that boy to die.Whether he has sinned or not, let God judge.Never let a overzealous religious group judge, for they are sinners too.Originally posted by sidestep1984:the religion can be damn strict due to misinterpretation....i'm just thankful that i am in singapore....sometimes olden way of thinking..doesnt make sense....just be thankful that such things does not happen here...
the way i see it..
if anyone doesnt wanna fast...or do wat he/she supposed to do as decreed by religion...let he/she answer to god....
never met out crazy punishments such as insane number of lashings....let god do his job when the time comes...
well..thats my 2 cents.... -
the way i see it..
Yup, agreed. Especially to those that KNN say that they are acting by the words of GOD.
if anyone doesnt wanna fast...or do wat he/she supposed to do as decreed by religion...let he/she answer to god....
never met out crazy punishments such as insane number of lashings....let god do his job when the time comes...
well..thats my 2 cents....
Nonsense, understand! Just their lame excuse to further their political or personal agenda only.
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What will IRAN do with the nuclear bomb...i fear for the worst...
i hate living in a conservative country..cannot do this cannot do that..
sidestep1984, i agree with you, but then how come moderates also can be influenced? JI wanted to create a islamic archipelago combining of singapore,indonesia and malaysia...
With regards to hardliners in a government, why can't the IRAN pple organise the soldiers to overthrow the government?
Didn't they abandon the King ??
Scarry to imagine what would happen...with those car bombs exploding everywhere.........
Saudi Arabia, it happened..
Thailand, it happened
USA , it happened
Russia, it happened
Afghanistan , it happened,
Spain, it happened,
Iraq...Indonesia......Israel ,Palestine....Morroco...
Netherlands....
Everywhere also got problems...
When are those extremists gonna be controlled?
I hate being a sitting duck waiting for terrorists to attack..
The best lifestyle..is a life you control...
not a life which pple control.. -
moderates just wanna get the attention...thats why they turn into hardliners....Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:What will IRAN do with the nuclear bomb...i fear for the worst...
i hate living in a conservative country..cannot do this cannot do that..
sidestep1984, i agree with you, but then how come moderates also can be influenced? JI wanted to create a islamic archipelago combining of singapore,indonesia and malaysia...
With regards to hardliners in a government, why can't the IRAN pple organise the soldiers to overthrow the government?
Didn't they abandon the King ??
Scarry to imagine what would happen...with those car bombs exploding everywhere.........
Saudi Arabia, it happened..
Thailand, it happened
USA , it happened
Russia, it happened
Afghanistan , it happened,
Spain, it happened,
Iraq...Indonesia......Israel ,Palestine....Morroco...
Netherlands....
Everywhere also got problems...
When are those extremists gonna be controlled?
I hate being a sitting duck waiting for terrorists to attack..
The best lifestyle..is a life you control...
not a life which pple control..
anywaes...in the case of Iran.....correct me if i'm wrong but a military coup took over the govt in Iran and overthrow the Shah in the 80s.......nowadays...if i am right...people in the middle east view US efforts as being nosy.....
put it into this context....
family quarrel happens in HDB flat...
Police comes to see whats wrong...
the family tat quarrel turns to the policemen and label them as nosy.....it sucks being the third party.....
well...what i think also is that in the middle east...so much oil...but the people there(such as in Iraq) feel that they should be a 1st world country due to its riches.....
i'm too tired to think abt this really.....
I'm just happy to be in Singapore..... -
what the flying Fuck.Originally posted by Dr Who:IRAN :
A 14 year old boy died on Thursday, November 11th, after having received 85 lashes; according to the ruling of the Mullah judge of the public circuit court in the town of Sanandadj he was guilty of breaking his fast during the month of Ramadan.
Article and photo in :
http://www.iranpressnews.com/english/source/001327.html
thats why religions are all Fucked up. never liked any of them, the other time I read on news some young Catholic girl was punished for doing something, cant remember what. very small thing. -
Satanism.Originally posted by greengoblin:No...the best is FireIceism.... Its basic message is love
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US are also in a difficult plight like a policemen.
Help solve problem family problem but in the end get scored by them....
Can someone go and brain wash them? 84 lashes will even kill adult and if u survive ur skin will be torn. More absurb is rape victim need 4 "MALE" "WITNESS", so that mean all those rapist..... please take a flight and go over there and u be in heaven. You can do whatever you like and make sure there is less then 4 males will do.
You can also do it openly.... just make sure less than 4 guys are present.
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It's more of a cultural thing than a religious thing.What is happening now is that world has progressed on without them, and their cultural and social mores still lie in the 8t or 9th century.We cannot stand such acts because we have a more liberated and empathic mind, which they lack.And any attempt to bring them into the modern world is viewed with suspicion by people who believe that any form of social progress is evil and must be stopped at all cost.Why?Because they have interpreted their religion in a twisted way to allow for a religious backing for the things they do, most of which may not be palatable to God.
I believe the free world will win this conflict,The world will move on and change more.I once read a novel, containing a phrase, "Let the Arabs do what they please, when the rest of humankind has colonies on the moon and Mars, they can have the whole bloody Earth to themselves..." Something to that sort.I'm not against all Arabs, just the ignorant ones who think they can impose their way on the world which has already turned their backs on them and is getting on with their life.
The day we fully exploit hydrogen as our most common form of energy is the day the Middle East will wake up from their hubris.Is there a conspiracy between the gulf states and the parties who owe their funding and wealth to them?I annot be sure, but you just have to take a look at Halliburton and Zapata Oil, formerly GWB's, to find out. -
Oh yeah...overly righteous ppl....maybe sounds to me osama and co. seems to be righteous den. So killing ppl for his personal agenda is righteous. Maybe he should sacrifice himself to humanity an for his God's sake.Originally posted by sidestep1984:yuh...its the way u intepret it....
some interpret it to the letter...while others like me...grasp the majority of the positive teachings...and lay off on the negative-sounding ones....plus somehow...
i dislike those overly righteous kinda ppl...
certain things that i find confusing in some people...
such as this contradiction...
oh..i had premarital sex....
but i dont drink cos its against religion...
not saying that i am innocent or anything... -
Hitler thought he was overly righteous too...killing Jews like nobodies business....anywaes....its the way u interpret..thats all...Originally posted by hoMMe:Oh yeah...overly righteous ppl....maybe sounds to me osama and co. seems to be righteous den. So killing ppl for his personal agenda is righteous. Maybe he should sacrifice himself to humanity an for his God's sake. -
If I am not wrong
2 Aust gals were caned in Malaysia for drugs