RMAF capabilities?
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Singapore has the Shrike? Jeezes, that's OLD equipment....
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From what I've heard it was for trials purposes only, not actual purchase...Originally posted by YourFather:Singapore has the Shrike? Jeezes, that's OLD equipment.... -
Can anybody list the Air Force's inventory of munitions? Those that are more 'confirmed' ones, not Python 4 or Derby.
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Hmmm...no idea if this is complete but I'm sure are confirmed(from RSAF Open houses/declassified RSAF photos/weapons contract news on US DoD websites etc):Originally posted by YourFather:Can anybody list the Air Force's inventory of munitions? Those that are more 'confirmed' ones, not Python 4 or Derby.
AIM-9P-4 Sidewinder
AIM-9S Sidewinder
AIM-7M Sparrow
Mk.82/83/84 GP bombs
Mk.82 AIR (Air Inflatable Retarded)
GBU-10/12 LGBs
Mk.20 Rockeye CBUs
LAU-5003/5002/68 rocket pods
AGM-65B/D/G Mavericks
AGM-84 Harpoon ASMs
SUU-20 dispenser unit
HeliTOW ATGMs
Colt Mk.12 20mm cannon
M39 20mm cannon
M61 20mm cannon
There are some phased out systems:
MAtra 68mm rocket pods
RAF 1000lb bombs
AIM-9G
AIM-9J
Aden 30mm cannon
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I wonder if they use it on the F-16 or the Fokker MPA.Originally posted by Viper52:AGM-84 Harpoon ASMs
I also thought they bought the air launch Exocets to be carried by the Super Pumas?
I have got a suggestion, maybe ST Aero or some ST subsidary could disassemble the old Sidewinders, learn the IIR technology and reverse engineer to produce a Singapore-made AAM. We could even get the Isreali, South African or the Taiwanese to help us build one that is at least a 3rd gen WVR missiles. RSAF would then only need to purchase 4th gen missiles from foreign source. I would reckon Python 4/ASRAAM and AIM-9X would be good candidate. Of course rumours has it that RSAF had already got the Python 4 in its inventory....
There are some phased out systems:
AIM-9G
AIM-9J
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RSAF Super Ps are not configured for maritime strike, and no we don't have the air launched Exocet....
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Can super-pumas be used as ASW helicopter platforms?
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The French are marketing an ASW version of the AS532UL Cougar(which is the military name of the AS332M Super Puma) which can also carry Exocets in the anti-shipping role. In fact the French are using the Cougar for a shitload of tasks, much like the Americans with their Blackhawk derivatives. They've got utility, ASW, anti shipping, CSAR and who knows what else...Originally posted by Shotgun:Can super-pumas be used as ASW helicopter platforms?
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RSAN?? But basically, the Pumas CAN be converted for ASW duties right?
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Typo...I meant RSNOriginally posted by Shotgun:RSAN?? But basically, the Pumas CAN be converted for ASW duties right?
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I see. Most likely that we would get another platform for ship based ASW then.
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Well...the Cougar's still in the running for the RSN naval helo contract, for what thats worth, but I have a feeling that the Seahawk is the favourite as its the most capable IMO in the ASW role. If we get the SH-60 we'll then know whats replacing the UH-1s...Originally posted by Shotgun:I see. Most likely that we would get another platform for ship based ASW then.
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Whats the common military version of the black hawk? Is it also called the black hawk?
I' kinda thought the black hawk was specifically, UH-60s converted for Special Operations purpose. Fitted with sound, and IR suppressors and all. -
Black Hawk is the designation for Army H-60s, but the Spec Ops version is the MH-60, which also bears the Black Hawk name. The naval variants are slightly different, though. The sea utility version(CH-60) will be called the Knight Hawk. Current upgrades to the sea model will bring them to the SH-60R, the future common baseline model.
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Hmmm...heres what I know:Originally posted by YourFather:Black Hawk is the designation for Army H-60s, but the Spec Ops version is the MH-60, which also bears the Black Hawk name. The naval variants are slightly different, though. The sea utility version(CH-60) will be called the Knight Hawk. Current upgrades to the sea model will bring them to the SH-60R, the future common baseline model.
Army utility: UH-60 Black Hawk
Army/USAF Spec Ops/CSAR: HH-60/MH-60 Pave Hawk
Navy ASW: SH-60B/F Seahawk
Navy CSAR: HH-60G(saw these variant on all the carriers I visited).
CH-60(still in devt I think) for future Navy utility use
The Navy HH-60 is radically different from the SH-60s. For one thing the Navy HH-60s didn't have sonobouy stations on the right hand side behind the main cabin door. However both versions serve alongside each other in the single Navy helo squadron on board CV/CVNs -
Hmmm, my mistake. Its supposed 2B the PAVE HAWK instead of the Black Hawk.
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But aren't AIM-9P-4 and AIM-9S 3rd generation WVR missiles already?Originally posted by Joe Black:I have got a suggestion, maybe ST Aero or some ST subsidary could disassemble the old Sidewinders, learn the IIR technology and reverse engineer to produce a Singapore-made AAM. We could even get the Isreali, South African or the Taiwanese to help us build one that is at least a 3rd gen WVR missiles. RSAF would then only need to purchase 4th gen missiles from foreign source. I would reckon Python 4/ASRAAM and AIM-9X would be good candidate. Of course rumours has it that RSAF had already got the Python 4 in its inventory.... -
From what I have read, NH-90 is the favourite. It seems like the La Fayatte purchase will have mainly French or European contents including Exocet SSM, Aster 15/30 SAM, NH-90 anti-sub Helo. Of course nothing is confirm until official statement from RSN/Mindef. Another thing is that a lot of these rumours are generated by sales people or unconfirmed reports including Janes.Originally posted by Viper52:Well...the Cougar's still in the running for the RSN naval helo contract, for what thats worth, but I have a feeling that the Seahawk is the favourite as its the most capable IMO in the ASW role. If we get the SH-60 we'll then know whats replacing the UH-1s... -
What version of the SeaHawk is being offered? Is it the SH-60R version?
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Yeah we're packing those 6 babies full of French equipment aren't we? I did think that way too, but lets not forget the Puma/Cougar is also French. I don't know much about the Cougar and NH90 ASW capabilities, but from what I see, I do feel that the SH-60 is an extremely capable ASW platform.Originally posted by Joe Black:From what I have read, NH-90 is the favourite. It seems like the La Fayatte purchase will have mainly French or European contents including Exocet SSM, Aster 15/30 SAM, NH-90 anti-sub Helo. Of course nothing is confirm until official statement from RSN/Mindef. Another thing is that a lot of these rumours are generated by sales people or unconfirmed reports including Janes.
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F? Why get F when they are getting to the much better R version? No no NO! It better be R, or we go European, heh heh...
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Man...I'm really behind on my helo knowledge. I thought the LAMPS III was the -60F...it should be the R instead...I stand corrected...Originally posted by YourFather:F? Why get F when they are getting to the much better R version? No no NO! It better be R, or we go European, heh heh... -
I just did some research on the MH-60R, yes, its MH-60R and not SH-60R now, got me a little confused. Looks like I'm a little behind too, but then the H-60 family series is so damned huge, its easy to get mixed up. Also, the MH-60R is now called the 'StrikeHawk', and should be just entering USN service this year.
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Oh... its up to the S variant now... http://defence-data.com/current/page13545.htmOriginally posted by YourFather:I just did some research on the MH-60R, yes, its MH-60R and not SH-60R now, got me a little confused. Looks like I'm a little behind too, but then the H-60 family series is so damned huge, its easy to get mixed up. Also, the MH-60R is now called the 'StrikeHawk', and should be just entering USN service this year.