Sunday Times (28.11.04) - Prostitution at Tang and Scotts.
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After many years of vice control, Police has miserably failed to solve this social problem. What is the use of having officers if they cannot solve such a problem.
Officers licensing of entertainment and vice control and ministry surely should be held accountable and transparent for their works.
Now vice has spread to Orchard Road from Orchard Tower as reported in the Sunday Times. Foreign tourists are surprised at the change of Orchard Road. They say that image of Singapore has now been run down. Such a state of affairs only poorly reflected on our poor efficiency of police and the rest of governance. Your views?
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next sunday times will feature policemen making stringent checks at the mentioned places and all the wayang show going on in high-profile so all can see....trust me, it has been like dat all one mah......No push = no work, newton's law applies
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no comments, unless i am in the police force itself.
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Chunyong, let me translate (hopefully as my Chinese is getting rusty with age):Originally posted by chunyong:next sunday times will feature policemen making stringent checks at the mentioned places and all the wayang show going on in high-profile so all can see....trust me, it has been like dat all one mah......No push = no work, newton's law applies
High is the mountain,
Loneliness is the peak,
Fearless is the courage,
Oh, Our Men of valour,
Where to find you when,
Needed most to conquer
another peak. -
no demand, no supply
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alone on the mountain peak, height not considered highOriginally posted by robertteh:Chunyong, let me translate (hopefully as my Chinese is getting rusty with age):
High is the mountain,
Loneliness is the peak,
Fearless is the courage,
Oh, Our Men of valour,
Where to find you when,
Needed most to conquer
another peak.
fate is laughing with sarcasm, hinting its a dead end
the floating clouds beside me cautioned me, i walk with great strides
although knowing this mountain top got lots of strong tigers, hero should not be fearful, definitely not willing to stop walking
cold gaze upon the bloody road, loneliness is destiny
let me rise to the top, compete with the sky for the height. -
my colleague bro in police catch these people one, he said they prefer not to catch cos after catching need to write report for each of them, and sometimes after a "good raid" need to write report till morning, and also must provide breakfast for hundreds of people, they not happy with breakfast still can complain
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actually i think this is a hard to tackle problem. Some of these gals enter S'pore as tourist, earn some quick bucks then go off. Really difficult to control. Then best part is that police goes on random checks then some of the bobo police mistake genuine tourist as hookers... another embarrassing issue to report.
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The police can carry out their duties quite easily.Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:my colleague bro in police catch these people one, he said they prefer not to catch cos after catching need to write report for each of them, and sometimes after a "good raid" need to write report till morning, and also must provide breakfast for hundreds of people, they not happy with breakfast still can complain
Just patrol the areas concerned based on time-activity-zone schedules. Once it is scheduled, officers will definitely have to cover the duty or do the beat in a timely manner.
A Postman is efficient because duties are time-activity-zone scheduled. Difficult illegal hawking problems in certain areas were once successfully solved after having officers stationed or patrolling on the above-mentioned prescribed time-scheduled routine. Random or discretionary duties will be complex and inefficient.
Any duties performed on well-established schedules will be more efficiently performed. Until and unless duties are scheduled, problems would only persist lah. -
This move by the prostitutes is something called de-centralisation
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This has been going on for many years.
I guess that ST has no story to write. -
now got so many escort.. think the police also dun really wanna catch ba..
opposite hilton got many OKT approach u when u walk pass de. -
i'm personally fine with it, until a week ago while walking down tangs at night that 80% of these prostitutes are transvestites and gays.
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if there aren't any tarts you'd read about women getting raped or molested everyday..its just part and parcel of life you gotta realise the fact that some men want to pay for sex and some women want to earn their money.
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Not unusual.. I just did not once... arrest a tourist.. for being PRC and not having a passport... the force got one BIG letter from the china embassayOriginally posted by subzero_baby:actually i think this is a hard to tackle problem. Some of these gals enter S'pore as tourist, earn some quick bucks then go off. Really difficult to control. Then best part is that police goes on random checks then some of the bobo police mistake genuine tourist as hookers... another embarrassing issue to report. -
It is hard to stop all this, one day you go arrest maybe say 50.. the next week another 50.. anyway the charges for them is a fine and repratation back to whichever country they come from..they will just come back on another passport.. To make matters worse, these chinese people like to complain.. what i believe is in order to have a good relationship with china, our government would not keep sending back PRC people.. It is well known that there are there, but what can the ministry or police do when you have your hands tied behind your back... So it is actualyl good that the newspaper and the public voice their views.. in this way the ropes will be loosen and the respective agency can do their job...Originally posted by robertteh:After many years of vice control, Police has miserably failed to solve this social problem. What is the use of having officers if they cannot solve such a problem.
Officers licensing of entertainment and vice control and ministry surely should be held accountable and transparent for their works.
Now vice has spread to Orchard Road from Orchard Tower as reported in the Sunday Times. Foreign tourists are surprised at the change of Orchard Road. They say that image of Singapore has now been run down. Such a state of affairs only poorly reflected on our poor efficiency of police and the rest of governance. Your views? -
Aiyahz.most easy is to tackle the customers itself mahz.You close down the shops but the men still have their needs to satisfy. They either shift to other areas or become more shady. Arresting these got no help to control the vice lahz. The government should look for better ideas to efficiently control and reduce these vice activities or else the orchard people will vote against the PAP. hahaha..my idea is to arrest those who visit prostitutes instead of those who are the prostitutes. lolx.
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What are the consequences of getting caught?
Apparently, it's still worth the time to do prostitution in the current context of law. -
Wasn't it reported recently.
The law says prostitution is not against the law. But soliciting customers is. So how do you prove a woman and a man walking into a hotel are lovers or on a business transaction.
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ya lor! even when the police are doing their job, most of the time they are being hindered by unseen factors. There are so many tourist that comes in for 2 weeks, earn then run. honestly, unless the police catch them in doing transcations, they have nothing to hold them up too.Originally posted by houndy:It is hard to stop all this, one day you go arrest maybe say 50.. the next week another 50.. anyway the charges for them is a fine and repratation back to whichever country they come from..they will just come back on another passport.. To make matters worse, these chinese people like to complain.. what i believe is in order to have a good relationship with china, our government would not keep sending back PRC people.. It is well known that there are there, but what can the ministry or police do when you have your hands tied behind your back... So it is actualyl good that the newspaper and the public voice their views.. in this way the ropes will be loosen and the respective agency can do their job... -
If these are the reasons given for not solving problems, then the problems cannot be solved.Originally posted by houndy:It is hard to stop all this, one day you go arrest maybe say 50.. the next week another 50.. anyway the charges for them is a fine and repratation back to whichever country they come from..they will just come back on another passport.. To make matters worse, these chinese people like to complain.. what i believe is in order to have a good relationship with china, our government would not keep sending back PRC people.. It is well known that there are there, but what can the ministry or police do when you have your hands tied behind your back... So it is actualyl good that the newspaper and the public voice their views.. in this way the ropes will be loosen and the respective agency can do their job...
If it is diplomatically sensitive then preventative measures have to be taken like time-activity-zoned stationing/patrolling duties to solve problems.
Preventative checking of passport/work permit of hookers will be diplomatically least offensive way of tackling the problems as compared with having to catch more hookers in the acts.
Preventative or preemptive action is the way to prevent hookers from operating out of the traditional licensed areas.
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What to do.... now a days competition in the prostituting business is very tough.. they already have moved out to the heartlands.. sooner or later we will just be swarmed by them...unless the gov act on it...
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Where do those prostitutes @ Orchard come from? Some time ago, Chinese hookers invaded Toa payoh central.
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I did not seem to come across this news on Toa Payoh central hookers. That news should have been a wake-up call to the department concerned as it would be too close for comfort for residents.Originally posted by iveco:Where do those prostitutes @ Orchard come from? Some time ago, Chinese hookers invaded Toa payoh central.
Who want their property prices to drop because of such news. -
Hmm.. punishment for male caught soliciting these hookers would be.. to wear hi tech.. chasity belt for days. Repeat offenders, months.Originally posted by yeebas:Aiyahz.most easy is to tackle the customers itself mahz.You close down the shops but the men still have their needs to satisfy. They either shift to other areas or become more shady. Arresting these got no help to control the vice lahz. The government should look for better ideas to efficiently control and reduce these vice activities or else the orchard people will vote against the PAP. hahaha..my idea is to arrest those who visit prostitutes instead of those who are the prostitutes. lolx.
And blame it on yourself if you need to release the chocolate bomb.
just another lame post from a bored me.