10 things to consider when marrying a typical sg girl
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you must be joking?Originally posted by elindra:Ged, you are really hilarious.
Love your sharp, witty sense of humor
i can't sense any witty humor, either that or i'm not female -
is she a vacuum cleaner (sucks and blows) and oven all combined into one?Originally posted by Gazelle:Honestly, I didnt daydream or act stupid before writing this list. I just have to compare the women from our parent's generation to those sg women of today. Did my dad treat my mum as a maid or slave? I dont think so.
And to tell you the truth, the reason I dare to write this list is because I do have a wife that does all the above, and unfortunately she is not a sg women. If you think that she is poor, stupid, uneducated, ugly and dream to be a housewife, than I must say that you are very wrong.
Personally, I have dated many sg women, from doctors to models, from lians and SPGs, and all I can say is that they are great companion to have fun but not as wife.
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does the term "sperm bank" ring a little bell that u r wearing round ur neck?Originally posted by Gazelle:You will probably find this as a joke when you are still young, but trust me, there are so many sg women out there that have given up hope on having children because they cant. Didnt you read that there are rising number of miscarriage despite falling birth rate? Why so?
As for men, if you are financially stable, you can always have children when you are 40 yr old. Can a women do the same? -
u seem like one who would concentrate on material comforts.. anyway u r such an insecure dud tt u need to boast abt ur sexual experiences, ur education, ur salary (wow 5 figure!! SO???), ur housing....Originally posted by Gazelle:Honestly speaking, I am proud to marry to my wife because I wont be who I am today without her. 4 years ago, I was jobless when I was doing my post grad studies, today (I am 30 btw), I have a 5 figure monthly salary, my condo, my continental car, my lovely wife, my dog and my exciting job that allows me to travel round the world. (actually I am in paris right now and i am with my lovely wife)
Honest speaking, money and material stuff does not really bring me happiness. It is my family that provide me the joy in my life.
btw does the dog look like u? -
from all these replies, you can see that even though most men agree that S'pore gals are hard to please, there are still quite a number of ppl who don't put them down.
It is not just about giving birth, being a house wife. NOT everyone can have a 5 figure salary. If my husband can bring home 4 figure paycheck, i also want to be "tai tai" and stay home, cook, let maid do housework, babysit, then go high tea/ shopping/ body sliming with other "tai tais...." AND I WILL ALSO HAVE DOGS!
most families have 2 working parents, so that leaves children at the mercy of maid's hands, grannies care, childcare.... at the end of the day, parents hardly talk to their kid. so why have children when you can't take care of them?
Why not you try to feel how average income family in s'pore feel by cutting your pay between $3.5- $4 K? No Maids, No Big Car... ask your wife do lar... No going to country clubs and posh restaurants for dinner. have a taste of it then maybe you can come back post "10 typical things to consider when migrating to Singapore" -
Yup, took a look at those figures again, and it still doesn't change that fact that in the past two census years, 45,160 women shot a big hole right through your little "life of the typical Singaporean woman" theory.Originally posted by Gazelle:I hope you could just take a look at the statistic again.
http://www.singstat.gov.sg/ssn/feat/sep2004/pg12-16.pdf
Foxwalk's right - you still have no point.
The very fact that you're listing those stats shows that you're more hung-up on your list of sins than Singaporean women are. Either that or you're dissatisfied with your wife and are now using that list to try and attract a Singaporean replacement.Originally posted by Gazelle:today (I am 30 btw), I have a 5 figure monthly salary, my condo, my continental car, my lovely wife, my dog and my exciting job that allows me to travel round the world. (actually I am in paris right now and i am with my lovely wife)
In any case, I'm pleased for your current success. I've got my doctorate, easily make more than a grand a day, and I have a very comfortable life in Singapore and Australia, and so I can understand your being pleased with your current circumstances, although I've travelled so much I can never wait to get off the plane. Of course, the postgrad years were a bugger, weren't they, watching everyone make money while you were still stuck in school? I know that one too.
The question is, it's two years in the past for me, as opposed to your four, and those are times I can look back at fondly and laugh while enjoying my current success. If you're really that successful, why are you still whining and displaying a dropkick mentality? I'm a cognitive-behaviourist, not a Freudian, but even so, the underlying message of your posts screams, "INFERIORITY COMPLEX!". My professional opinion is that you seriously need to get help before you blow a gasket.
Somehow, though, I've got a nagging feeling that you're not really a postgrad. Your posts lack the cogency of argument that really ought to be second nature to anyone who has been exposed to the rigours of postgrad education. A clear example of what I'm talking about is:
Uh, let me get this straight - you're 30, and you're trying to give the impression that you're speaking from a 40-year-old's perspective. There are so many things wrong with your posts:Originally posted by Gazelle:You will probably find this as a joke when you are still young, but trust me, there are so many sg women out there that have given up hope on having children because they cant. Didnt you read that there are rising number of miscarriage despite falling birth rate? Why so?
As for men, if you are financially stable, you can always have children when you are 40 yr old. Can a women do the same?
1) You're 30, and you assume that everybody's younger than you - given that the average Singaporean life span is in the neighbourhood of 70 years, that's a very foolish assumption to make (how the devil did you pass postgrad? actually, did you actually pass postgrad?).
2) Or it could be that you're using "young" interchangably with "immature". In that case, I've got three words for you: Pot. Kettle. Black. That, mind you, is being generous to you.
3) Using the phrase "trust me" is a tall order indeed, given your lack of cognizance of basic facts, as well as your tendency to use sweeping generalisations, as well as your tendency to give the impression that you're someone you're not.
4) As pointed out before, if you are as successful and contented as you claim, there is absolutely no reason for you to have made that first post in the first place. I was hesitant about calling you a liar before, but now I've got a clear case to do so.
5) Speaking in the most condescending manner to people you assumed (once again) to be no match for you educationally or financially was not a wise move. Whoops - make a couple more grand, spend a few more years in school, and then come back and talk to me.
6) Sadly, you seem to hint at the issue of miscarriages is somehow linked to your theory. I would suggest you read up on epidemiological issues linked to miscarriages before making a bigger fool of yourself.
So, what does this all add up to? Take the first letter of each of the six points above, and maybe you'll get a hint. To accommodate for your lack of intellectual ability, I've highlighted the letters in question.
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Oh no, that won't happen because his wife is foreign and not a typical, money grubbing, self-centered SG girl.Originally posted by Gedanken:subzero_baby, on your point, have you considered the possibility that if Gazelle (that nick still brings a smile to my face) lost the job, the condo and all that, his wife would drop him like a hot potato?
Haha, if my hubby earns a 5-digit pay, I think I can just stay at home and look after the house and kids as well, or just work part-time and look after the house and kids. -
Gazelle, after reading your posts I tend to believe that you couldn't find a good "typical Sg girl" cos you have inferiority complex and at the same time have no respect for others.
Hope your lovely wife will help you in improving these 2 aspects rather than your material well being. -
I hope you are already married, or else you might have to start dating your professor?Originally posted by Gedanken:I've got my doctorate, easily make more than a grand a day, and I have a very comfortable life in Singapore and Australia As for me, 10k or 100K is the same, I just want a happy family. -
If I would to cut my household income by 4K the only different is we will take longer time to retired our home loan and have less saving for retirement. As for fancy restaurant and maid, that is in the bottom of our list. We prefer home cooking and privacy.Originally posted by subzero_baby:from all these replies, you can see that even though most men agree that S'pore gals are hard to please, there are still quite a number of ppl who don't put them down.
It is not just about giving birth, being a house wife. NOT everyone can have a 5 figure salary. If my husband can bring home 4 figure paycheck, i also want to be "tai tai" and stay home, cook, let maid do housework, babysit, then go high tea/ shopping/ body sliming with other "tai tais...." AND I WILL ALSO HAVE DOGS!
most families have 2 working parents, so that leaves children at the mercy of maid's hands, grannies care, childcare.... at the end of the day, parents hardly talk to their kid. so why have children when you can't take care of them?
Why not you try to feel how average income family in s'pore feel by cutting your pay between $3.5- $4 K? No Maids, No Big Car... ask your wife do lar... No going to country clubs and posh restaurants for dinner. have a taste of it then maybe you can come back post "10 typical things to consider when migrating to Singapore" -
That might have been the way you sleazed your way into your so-called postgrad, although your professor was not too fussy by the looks of it. I did mine legitimately.Originally posted by Gazelle:I hope you are already married, or else you might have to start dating your professor?
So you're saying that you got married because you need validation? I feel very sorry for your wife, you little, little man - you've got all the makings of a dysfunctional marriage.
Ah, already starting to hedge your bets because you know the truth about your education and finances is soon to come out?Originally posted by Gazelle:As for me, 10k or 100K is the same, I just want a happy family.
You don't have to worry. We already know you're bunkum, and regardless of that, the other forumites' posts show that you're regarded as a loser anyway.
In any case, if you're going to be the petty, small, inferiority-complex-ridden shrimp you've shown youself to be on this thread, I think you've got a lot to worry about in the happy-family department.
Looks like you've run out of ammunition anyway, and we're not getting any more pseudofactual tripe from you. Now all you've got to do is change your nick - Gazelle is still effeminate.
By the way, it looks like your itsy-bitsy little theory about womanhood may be in serious trouble, what with all the holes that it has been revealed to contain. Go crying to your wife - you'll need all the support she can give you. Well, that is if she can stand your snivelling little ways. -
Tut. Tut. Tut. Such confused grammar for a so-called postgrad - however did you pass?Originally posted by Gazelle:If I would to cut my household income by 4K the only different is we will take longer time to retired our home loan and have less saving for retirement.
Careful, Gazelle - you're getting rattled, especially since you now know the real deal is here, and the cracks are showing. -
some people go through tertiary education and still do come out sounding as deep as a puddle. sighs.. what's the big deal with postgrad education? r u going to be a bill gates? or a happiest person in the world. the guy obviously like u said, has an inferiority complex that he needs to feel that he's riding on top of everyone else so that he can somehow find some validation.Originally posted by Gedanken:Tut. Tut. Tut. Such confused grammar for a so-called postgrad - however did you pass?
Careful, Gazelle - you're getting rattled, especially since you now know the real deal is here, and the cracks are showing.
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Originally posted by Gedanken:
subzero_baby, on your point, have you considered the possibility that if Gazelle (that nick still brings a smile to my face) lost the job, the condo and all that, his wife would drop him like a hot potato?
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Me and my wife started this relationship when I just quit my job to pursue my studies, (If Gedanken is interested, it is a Master in International Business). I am quite sure that my wife didnt love me for my 5 figure salary, she just love me for who I am.Originally posted by elindra:Oh no, that won't happen because his wife is foreign and not a typical, money grubbing, self-centered SG girl.
Haha, if my hubby earns a 5-digit pay, I think I can just stay at home and look after the house and kids as well, or just work part-time and look after the house and kids.
Honestly, I am glad that I didnt marry a typical sg gers or else I am sure I will be drop like a BIG HOT POTATO . (Btw, I am wondering why Gedanken delete this message? Is it because she realise that she is begining to proof to me that she is just another typical sg women that cant be trusted?) -
Ged, ever so eloquent! *applause!* No question about your postgraduate education there , but sadly, can't say the same for some dodgy bovine defecation that's been going on here!
If a man goes about looking for a woman solely to fulfill his creature needs and make up for his shortcomings, he's a sad, sorry man indeed. In a truly equal and blissful relationship, I believe BOTH partners have to have their lives in order first before choosing out of their own free will to come together and be united in love and commitment. It has to be two happy and whole people involved, not two people bearing ills and what other problems, trying to solve their problems by passing it on to a mate.
I certainly would not want to enter into a relationship expecting my partner to provide for me whilst I idle the time away in frivolous activities day in, day out. Neither would I want a man who chooses to marry me for the sole purpose of having his meals cooked, his laundry done, and someone to bear children for him. I call those parasitic relationships - like a parasite, one finds the perfect prey, then latch on to him/her and sucks the lifeblood out of their partners for their personal benefit.
You call yours a happy marriage, Gazelle? Well, I don't blame you, for your postgraduate education probably does not teach you anything about life, and what truly matters.
Before you even consider being didactic, issuing out whatever delusional pearls of wisdom, remember, you are no sage, you are no philosopher, and you certainly have not earned the right to speak like a social commentator. Sometimes, silence is golden but then again, empty vessels DO make the most noise.
A lot of us Singaporean women are strong, educated and intelligent. If and when I fall in love, it has to be with a man who is able to hold his own, and he definitely must have a good head on his shoulders. I may be assertive but I can also love and respect the man I choose to live with and out of that love and devotion, fulfill my wifely duties. I'm sure a lot of other Singaporean women think like I do... until and unless we meet the man we love, we shall be unflinching in our quest to keep lesser men like you, Gazelle, safely out out out of our boundaries.
No wonder you got rejected by that many Singaporean women from all walks of life. You make me wanna do a Lady Macbeth, with that famous, 'OUT! OUT! Damn spot!!' act! hahaha! -
Where did he get his wife from? She's too "good" to be true. I don't want to insult the people of any country by suggesting them...
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My exact sentiments. She almost sounds like a celestial being! hahaha!Originally posted by Kuali Baba:Where did he get his wife from? She's too "good" to be true. I don't want to insult the people of any country by suggesting them... -
Perhaps, so whenever he travels abroad she shrinks to travel size and fits in the suit case.
Either that or she is inflatable... -
shallow puddle shallow puddle..Originally posted by Rhonda:Ged, ever so eloquent! *applause!* No question about your postgraduate education there , but sadly, can't say the same for some dodgy bovine defecation that's been going on here!
If a man goes about looking for a woman solely to fulfill his creature needs and make up for his shortcomings, he's a sad, sorry man indeed. In a truly equal and blissful relationship, I believe BOTH partners have to have their lives in order first before choosing out of their own free will to come together and be united in love and commitment. It has to be two happy and whole people involved, not two people bearing ills and what other problems, trying to solve their problems by passing it on to a mate.
I certainly would not want to enter into a relationship expecting my partner to provide for me whilst I idle the time away in frivolous activities day in, day out. Neither would I want a man who chooses to marry me for the sole purpose of having his meals cooked, his laundry done, and someone to bear children for him. I call those parasitic relationships - like a parasite, one finds the perfect prey, then latch on to him/her and sucks the lifeblood out of their partners for their personal benefit.
You call yours a happy marriage, Gazelle? Well, I don't blame you, for your postgraduate education probably does not teach you anything about life, and what truly matters.
Before you even consider being didactic, issuing out whatever delusional pearls of wisdom, remember, you are no sage, you are no philosopher, and you certainly have not earned the right to speak like a social commentator. Sometimes, silence is golden but then again, empty vessels DO make the most noise.
A lot of us Singaporean women are strong, educated and intelligent. If and when I fall in love, it has to be with a man who is able to hold his own, and he definitely must have a good head on his shoulders. I may be assertive but I can also love and respect the man I choose to live with and out of that love and devotion, fulfill my wifely duties. I'm sure a lot of other Singaporean women think like I do... until and unless we meet the man we love, we shall be unflinching in our quest to keep lesser men like you, Gazelle, safely out out out of our boundaries.
No wonder you got rejected by that many Singaporean women from all walks of life. You make me wanna do a Lady Macbeth, with that famous, 'OUT! OUT! Damn spot!!' act! hahaha!
masters in international yawn business is no big deal. the greatest businessmen in the world do not need a business degree even. this is just a sore man who's like i've said crying sour grapes cuz he's rejected goods and then speak of all women condescendingly when he spoke of them as baby machines.
and anyway, gazelle those girls who went out with you (incl spgs) prolly went out with u and had fun with u cuz u r a sissy and they could treat u like one of the sistas.
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Easy for you to say when you have it all.Originally posted by Gazelle:Honestly speaking, I am proud to marry to my wife because I wont be who I am today without her. 4 years ago, I was jobless when I was doing my post grad studies, today (I am 30 btw), I have a 5 figure monthly salary, my condo, my continental car, my lovely wife, my dog and my exciting job that allows me to travel round the world. (actually I am in paris right now and i am with my lovely wife)
Honest speaking, money and material stuff does not really bring me happiness. It is my family that provide me the joy in my life.
Why sg women don't want kids and are so fussy about their partners- because it is practical to do so. I had to migrate to get a higher paying job, study to get even higher pay and at least get the banks to lend me the money to buy my current apartment in Australia. Do I want a relationship and then children? No. I have too much on my plate right now . I can't, let alone , pay off my apartment in full yet ( at least I settled 60% of the loan) . After tax , bills, mortgage and basic shopping needs , I have enough to save for a comfortable retirement in 40 years.
However , when I think of those back home who don't even have a fortune of securing a job , or those who get paid meagrely - I think I am much better off in my greener pastures. How many women are paid highly? How many singaporeans can boast that they get paid a 5 figure sum or let alone over 2k per month? Not many. Don't blame it on singaporean women's mentality . Look at the Singaporean society - we are all about money- not for fun , but out of basic survival. Regrettably some have extended basic survival to maids - why? Because both parents need to work and they need someone to upkeep the place . This is no longer the 1960s/1970s/1980s where the mother is also a loving housekeeper. Haven't you heard of inflation and rising cost? Parents have to both work to upkeep their children's future, pay the bills, pay off the HDB flat ( which don't come cheap), pay the medical bills , buy the necessities .Oh I forgot you took up Masters of International Business or whatever .
Need I remind you that most singaporean parents equate education to monetary success in life too? Shallow mindedness has been inbuilt into society as a whole , not just the women. Men , being traditionally breadwinners, are expected to "succeed " in education to "succeed" in jobseeking , predominantly of managerial preference. So don't blame women for being the shallow minded ones.
My dad would object to my boyfriends if he thinks they are not "UP TO STANDARD" or have "NO FUTURE". That is a man who breached poverty to become well-to-do now- and that is my father. By far , all my Singaporean boyfriends , rich and poor, have been rejected by him as not good enough , stupid or useless. If you want to generalise sg women like that , wait til you meet my dad generalising the modern generation of Singaporeans now as "soft and pliable". I don't even escape his scrutiny .
I cook just about any cuisine - my colleagues love my food. I housekeep my own place - and *surprise surprise * I am a typical singaporean woman. Do I want to housekeep? Not really . It is exhausting to do so after my work. I work and pay for my postgrad education at the same time. I pay my own bills , buy my own things. MY own MONEY, not the PARENTAL type.
I wasn't pampered - I worked from 15 years old to buy my own clothing and my little creature comforts because my father said if I wanted my own things , I could buy them myself. My dad could easily get stuff for me but he refused. We could get a maid but my mom said my sis and I have to learn to pick up after ourselves. In fact I could have gotten alot of things from my parents but I didn't. Yet I am but a typical singaporean woman.
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It is easy, I write my thesis, my wife correct my grammar. In fact, I did pretty well for most of the papers, except those management subjects that require long a s s essays.Originally posted by Gedanken:Tut. Tut. Tut. Such confused grammar for a so-called postgrad - however did you pass?
Careful, Gazelle - you're getting rattled, especially since you now know the real deal is here, and the cracks are showing.
As for my job, I am in business development and when I need to draft a formal contract or agreement, I just pass it to my assistant or companyÂ’s lawyers. That easy is it! J
If you want to know why my company is paying me 5 figures per month, it is because I am a man with vision, someone who can strategize business for the company to compete with the global market. Do you need English to do this? I don’t think so. in fact, some of the big guns that I deal with doesn’t even speak a word of English and they really don’t give a damn if you write perfect English or not, what they want to know is “Where is the Money”
Since I have already share with you about myself, can I then know if you are married, attached or single? I must say that I am shock to learn that you are making “easily 1 thousand Singapore dollars per day”, can I know what kind of job pay you so much and allow you to waste your time in this forum? Since you are making about $365,000 per year, I am sure you must be a millionaire by now? How does it feel to have so much money? Do you find love in money? -
So Reyes I believe you are an educated man, it can be seen from the standard of english that you use. That is why you went to Malaysia or whatever the place is to buy yourself a wife.Originally posted by reyes:agree on some of the pointer, that why my wife arent singaporean.
men you too have a choice. if you think singaporean women are arrogant, demand too much, then go for oversea women. but of course what kind you can choose also depends on what you can afford. coz if u choose women, women can also choose you.
if you are educated, have a decent job. go malaysia, thailand and china, singaporean men you are in demand!
cheers!!!
*my wife non singaporean and she non typical singaporean who doesnt possess some traits that you have posted!!
I would then like to ask you a question, if I may. What happens to the poor Singaporean men who are uneducated; or those who are but do not have a decent job? It would be nice to hear your answer to that.
You bought yourself a wife, do you have kids? Don't get me wrong but I am only thirsty for information. Did your kids come in a package with your wife? And how about a mistress?
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
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his english is not tt good, he said "oversea".Originally posted by Shake_Spear:So Reyes I believe you are an educated man, it can be seen from the standard of english that you use. That is why you went to Malaysia or whatever the place is to buy yourself a wife.
I would then like to ask you a question, if I may. What happens to the poor Singaporean men who are uneducated; or those who are but do not have a decent job? It would be nice to hear your answer to that.
You bought yourself a wife, do you have kids? Don't get me wrong but I am only thirsty for information. Did your kids come in a package with your wife? And how about a mistress?
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
Mahatma Gandhi -
Individuals with visions are/have either 1.mental illness (i.e. delusions), 2. pride, 3. deceptional qualities, or 4. divine human beings.Originally posted by Gazelle:If you want to know why my company is paying me 5 figures per month, it is because I am a man with vision, someone who can strategize business for the company to compete with the global market. Do you need English to do this? I don’t think so. in fact, some of the big guns that I deal with doesn’t even speak a word of English and they really don’t give a damn if you write perfect English or not, what they want to know is “Where is the Money”
1. Mental illness comes with a stigma or a stigmata (*ouch!*) at times.
2.Pride comes before a fall.
3. Deceptional qualities - conning and oratory qualities of extraordinary levels which entitle them to do what ever they want until they make a slip up when they have too much pride (see no.2). Almost like used car salesmen , except they deceive more people than just the customer.
4.Divine human beings (i.e. saints) usually get matyred in the end - in some form (*ouch!*).