You want Casino?
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The fate is sealed. They are going for 2. Wait till you know who is going to manage the IR. It's going to pop out eyes.
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In time to come ,Tomasick loh......who else?Originally posted by Archirodon:The fate is sealed. They are going for 2. Wait till you know who is going to manage the IR. It's going to pop out eyes. 
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Hehehe, it's obviously Tomasick. The question is who is this person?Originally posted by Lowclassman:In time to come ,Tomasick loh......who else? 
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You Know and I know......everyone knows......need to say it out meh.........Originally posted by Archirodon:Hehehe, it's obviously Tomasick. The question is who is this person? -
You tink it's the 7th most powerful businessworman in the world? You are not too correct, you will know in time to come. Let's wait and see, ya?Originally posted by Lowclassman:You Know and I know......everyone knows......need to say it out meh......... -
7th most powerful woman in the world??? I don't respect a person that achieved that kind of status by influence of relatives. If she is just an ordinary guy with no connections and climbed up than she will be first woman in this world that i will kowtow to her. serious~!~!~!Originally posted by Archirodon:You tink it's the 7th most powerful businessworman in the world? You are not too correct, you will know in time to come. Let's wait and see, ya? -
I wonder if Singapore Pools and Turf Club outlets in the heartlands are the real threat rather than the casion resort.
Gambling in heartland cause for concern
Nov 5, 2005
The Straits Times
THE report, 'Hooked on gambling? Help coming to the heartland' (ST, Oct 2
, is turning out to be a very big irony.
The Government seems very concerned that the coming integrated resorts (IRs) will pose a serious threat to citizens' ability to resist gambling, but are we not already gambling up to our eyeballs, and right in the heartland?
Let's face it: Singapore Pools, with its hundred over outlets, has successfully brought gambling to our doorsteps. It's almost impossible to find a Singapore Pools outlet without a long queue on any day.
If gambling is bad for our financial health, why did the Government allow Singapore Pools to open so many outlets in the heartland?
And did we ever hear an MP raise objection to this infestation of gambling in the heartland?
The easy accessibility to placing bets is not only eroding our work ethic and churning out thousands of addicts, but it is also a very bad influence on the thousands of teenagers who live so close to these betting outlets.
Some may argue that wagering a little money on 4D every draw is quite harmless, but are they aware several billions of dollars are lost to Singapore Pools, plus another billion or two to illegal operators?
Could this be one of the causes of the emergence of the New Poor in Singapore, and also the average 350 personal bankruptcies every month?
In fact, when you compare the 'house advantage' of a typical casino game like roulette (2.7 per cent) to that of 4D (40 per cent), you will realise why we are so broke playing 4D.
If you take a good look at the people patronising the Singapore Pools outlets you cannot help but conclude that most of them are low-income earners and poor housewives.
Why talk about helping the poor and the gambling addicts when, on the other hand, the Singapore Pools outlets make it so easy for them to lose their last dollar?
Another very bad sign I have observed among young people is that more and more of them have taken to soccer betting, thanks in no small part to the creativity of Singapore Pools in offering a wide variety of bets, and right at our doorstep.
Have we forgotten the saying that it is easy to pick up a bad habit in three days, but impossible to give it up forever?
If our future generation is more interested in making a quick buck than an honest living, what hope do we have to preserve the prosperity of the nation?
I am not totally against gambling, because all of us have a little bit of risk-taking in our genes, which experts say will help us to progress.
In fact, the coming IRs are good for our economy, although a few lives may be ruined. But then again, we are old enough to know what we are walking into, and IRs are not free to get in, and not so accessible too.
The way I see it, the only Exclusion Order we need to take out is to ban Singapore Pools from the heartland.
Mike Wong Kee Meng -
when interview individually cabinet minister say they are against casino but it still get approve in the end. so who is lying ?
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MIW are pragmatists.
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church group ask govt to increase entrance fee for singaporean gamblers from $100 to $300.
this will only allow them to make more money.
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They'll pay for it during election.
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I don’t see how you can beat this powerful machine. But I wish you are correct.Originally posted by x|@or3b3L:They'll pay for it during election.
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Casino is good for gamblers too. The Gov is providing more options for them to gamble away their money. Everyone has that option too. -
Will Casino Have Negative or Positive Net Effect?
Greetings.
I'd like to ask this following question, will casinoes have negative or positive net effect? From socio-economic perspective.
Let me start off with my position. That it's a negative net effect.
Everybody knows you can't win when u gamble. Because the casino has 'house edge' meaning the probability and the risk-reward is always better for the house.
OK so people lose money. To the casino.
Now the casino is owned by a minority/ select group of people. And foreign too. That means money will flow from the society towards a minority foreigner.
So far so good.
Now, SG government of course apply tax. And SG government is representative of the society.
So money out....to the minority foreigner....then money in again, to the government.
But of course the amount of money has dwindled right????
And now it's collected at government coffers, the government needs to reimburse through fiscal spending to spread it out again to wider society.
How come they say casino is good for the economy leh?? leh? leh?
Is it because part of the money is already imbursed by job creations like hiring waitresses, card dealers, etc?
But wait, casino runs a business. They always make profit and labour costs are lower. Which means....same thing what....money out from society....to minority foreigner.....goes in partly back to society again......and goes in partly to SG govt in tax.......
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Las Vegas Wynn Resorts and Australia's Tabcorp have bowed out of the race for the casino license.
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We must not be paranoid over the casinos. Did we ban cigarettes just because they are blamed for causing lung cancer even to third parties? Did we ban driving because of a few fatal accidents? Did we ban TOTO, Big Sweep and 4-D after the countless suicides and murders relating to them and after loan sharks hounded their victims? The answers are no, no and no. If we do so, we will be out of sync with the rest of the world, and will be considered even more boring than what we are labeled already.
Form the economic standpoint, Singaporeans as a whole will still be the main beneficiaries of this new pillar of our economy no matter how we look at it. We have to ask ourselves, are Macau, Las Vegas, or Monaco full of gamblers? The answer is no. For the citizens, the novelty will wear off and they will look upon them as another industry and source of income for the country.
The spin off from the casinos is not just the 35,000 jobs but much more downstream. Ask ourselves why even the great thinkers came to the conclusion that it will be a mistake to ignore the gaming industry in the region. It must have been really agonizing during the thinking and evaluating process. So ladies and gentlemen, straighten your eyebrows and put on that famous Singapore smile for the $loaded visitors to our shores. Let us plunge the sword to the hilt, move on and make our IRs a roaring success in Singapore. -
Oh yes.Originally posted by TwilightZone:We must not be paranoid over the casinos. Did we ban cigarettes just because they are blamed for causing lung cancer even to third parties? Did we ban driving because of a few fatal accidents? Did we ban TOTO, Big Sweep and 4-D after the countless suicides and murders relating to them and after loan sharks hounded their victims? The answers are no, no and no. If we do so, we will be out of sync with the rest of the world, and will be considered even more boring than what we are labeled already.
Form the economic standpoint, Singaporeans as a whole will still be the main beneficiaries of this new pillar of our economy no matter how we look at it. We have to ask ourselves, are Macau, Las Vegas, or Monaco full of gamblers? The answer is no. For the citizens, the novelty will wear off and they will look upon them as another industry and source of income for the country.
The spin off from the casinos is not just the 35,000 jobs but much more downstream. Ask ourselves why even the great thinkers came to the conclusion that it will be a mistake to ignore the gaming industry in the region. It must have been really agonizing during the thinking and evaluating process. So ladies and gentlemen, straighten your eyebrows and put on that famous Singapore smile for the $loaded visitors to our shores. Let us plunge the sword to the hilt, move on and make our IRs a roaring success in Singapore.
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Yes, by the time when the casinos are commissioned...it will be over someone's body already.Originally posted by TwilightZone:We must not be paranoid over the casinos. Did we ban cigarettes just because they are blamed for causing lung cancer even to third parties? Did we ban driving because of a few fatal accidents? Did we ban TOTO, Big Sweep and 4-D after the countless suicides and murders relating to them and after loan sharks hounded their victims? The answers are no, no and no. If we do so, we will be out of sync with the rest of the world, and will be considered even more boring than what we are labeled already.
Form the economic standpoint, Singaporeans as a whole will still be the main beneficiaries of this new pillar of our economy no matter how we look at it. We have to ask ourselves, are Macau, Las Vegas, or Monaco full of gamblers? The answer is no. For the citizens, the novelty will wear off and they will look upon them as another industry and source of income for the country.
The spin off from the casinos is not just the 35,000 jobs but much more downstream. Ask ourselves why even the great thinkers came to the conclusion that it will be a mistake to ignore the gaming industry in the region. It must have been really agonizing during the thinking and evaluating process. So ladies and gentlemen, straighten your eyebrows and put on that famous Singapore smile for the $loaded visitors to our shores. Let us plunge the sword to the hilt, move on and make our IRs a roaring success in Singapore. -
Lottery business and casino business are similiar. Remember that there is case in singapore about the husband killed the wife in the flat with their two kids playing at the corridor??? Reason of killing, the wife has an insatiable appetite for money. She becomes greedy for monies after his husband had won the big sweep. When the monies is used up, she began to brat at her husband. The husband cannot take it anymore, kill her. Dirty monies kill a happy family.
The intention of building casino is to earn more monies. But such dirty monies will not bring happiness. We compare ourselves to US. They can do it so could we. Such arrogent mindset is absolutely wrong as they are big nation and the people are educated differently from us.
Prositution in singapore is another trade that kills us. We know that prositutes spreads diseases. However, out of the intention of monies, it is allowed. Leaving the people who can't resist the temptation to suffer and die in the diseases in hospitals.
So, has monies bring us happiness? Absolutely not, why can't we focus on having our own agriculture than thinking of immoral trades?
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its integrated resort, everything oso muz have.Originally posted by dreamykite:Lottery business and casino business are similiar. Remember that there is case in singapore about the husband killed the wife in the flat with their two kids playing at the corridor??? Reason of killing, the wife has an insatiable appetite for money. She becomes greedy for monies after his husband had won the big sweep. When the monies is used up, she began to brat at her husband. The husband cannot take it anymore, kill her. Dirty monies kill a happy family.
The intention of building casino is to earn more monies. But such dirty monies will not bring happiness. We compare ourselves to US. They can do it so could we. This mindset is absolutely as they are big nation and the people are educated differently from us.
Prositution in singapore is another trade that kills us. We know that prositutes spreads diseases. However, out of the intention of monies, it is allowed. Leaving the people who can't resist the temptation to die and suffer the diseases.
So, has monies bring us happiness? Absolutely not, why can't we focus on having our own agriculture than thinking of immoral trades?
I absolutely dislike the idea of casino and prositution.
we wun end up going there one, too ex.
complete ban will cause illegal trade to bloom.
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I find that this is the best thread to post and I would like people to be aware of their self destruction by having these immoral trades.
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Well. let singapore doom together in gamblings
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According to CNA, another bidder for the IR has pulled out citing inability to generate positive returns for the mega project.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporebusinessnews/view/186409/1/.html
Will this be a damn big white elephant when it is built or will they scrap the whole thing altogether if the remaining bidders all drop out? -
It looks like some of the bidders no longer think it will be a lucrative venture...
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I have told you guys long time ago; the IR will be a total failure. Such freaking small space to develop....how to make it like second Las Vegas? Are we far too behind to develop the IR?Originally posted by Rexdriver:It looks like some of the bidders no longer think it will be a lucrative venture...
Sg govt said the IR will be ready and commissioned by 2009....you believe?....or partial completed or half or three quarter completed.......develop into what degree of expectation in terms design and asthetic, how fantastic? I'm indoubt with the sg govt in this matter. -
our govt really know how to make money.
IR dropouts face forfeit of $60 million deposits.
on top of that, 13 parties collected the Request For Proposal document. of the 13, 10 were potential bidders, who received the 800-page document for $1000, and three were private buyers who forked out $10k each for a copy.
amazing right?