Porn should be officially legalize in Singapore
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coming into the forums is just part of a habit. sometimes entertaining to see how ppl like u get flamed and to be desperate enough to list your embitions as reality. The one who dunno what they are talking abt should be you.Originally posted by Gazelle:I dont think it is decent or down to earth. I think it is very boring, and meaningless. Day in day out, talking on the forum, most of time dont even know what you are talking about.
From the way you people are talking to each other, it does seem that your only friend in life is the chat line and computer. I bet your social life sucks too.
I guess it is a matter of time that you will wake up one day and realise that your life is so damn boring that you might just wanna kill yourself.
I think everybody have a choice to live the way they want to, so please keep your comments to yourself. Regarding my lifestyle and salary, I think you people are just sore about it. And only loser behave like this. Because they are jealous and they try make themselve feel better by choosing not to believe it.
u should be the one considering to end your life. having to fabricate stories and even though kenna exposed of your fairy tales, still got cheek to return and enjoy the flame... you're one attention seeker babe.
surely i won't advise youngsters reading the forums to perceive causal sex as part of their lifestyle. checking out co- workers/ girls despite you are married, not only send a very bad signal to youngsters, also disgrace SG men. At least i know not all SG men are like you even though they earn much more than you. I believe you are just a TYPICAL attention seeker with inflated balls. You surely not think that you are the only one in this fourm "earning" lots of $$... if you think that your accomplishments are so much that ppl whom don't even know you personally can flame you this bad is out of jealously, then i advise you to see a doc.
As to reply to your thread, I too agree that sexual contents should be less censored but more stringent procedures when purchasing. Afterall, this is S'pore. I won't want my kids to be watching pornographic materials before they know the consequences. -
I believe children are born with a curious mind and the more you try to hide it away from them, they more they will want to find it. With internet, I think it is almost impossible for parent to hide porn away from children.Originally posted by subzero_baby:As to reply to your thread, I too agree that sexual contents should be less censored but more stringent procedures when purchasing. Afterall, this is S'pore. I won't want my kids to be watching pornographic materials before they know the consequences.
Instead of keeping it away from children, I think we should teach our children and explain to them that porn is not something bad or taboo, is it something for adults only., just like smoking or drinking. -
in my generation, kids don't often get curious about sex as it's not so publicilized as on tv nowaday. I never knew much about it till higher secondary.Originally posted by Gazelle:I believe children are born with a curious mind and the more you try to hide it away from them, they more they will want to find it. With internet, I think it is almost impossible for parent to hide porn away from children.
Instead of keeping it away from children, I think we should teach our children and explain to them that porn is not something bad or taboo, is it something for adults only., just like smoking or drinking.
Teaching Kids about sex is only when they are matured enough to know. Less censored porn and stringent procedures will do alot more compared to what it is now. At least you have something. But to expose porn as in like Japan, you get teenagers making out, selling their panties for cash, performing sexual acts to earn some cash. Japan's Goverment is already having migraine just to tackle this problem... -
They are taken in a very artistic wayOriginally posted by thinger:whats wrong with ged being a snag, even a gay one?
chicks dig homos, are you jealous?
never saw the old fhm's Eli, they cant have been that good? or were they?
topless girls in magazines like fhm etc arent soft porn. id like to refer to them as "art" or "fashion" or "talent shows".
Let's just say the old FHM was a bit scandalous in a way -
let me ask some question
1) do u support soft porn mag (topless) to be in singapore
2) do u support porn mag (butt naked) to be in singapore
3) do u support selling of R(A) VCD/DVD in public
4) do u support selling of XXX VCD/DVD in public
all of them come with an age limit -
1) yes to anyoneOriginally posted by stupidissmart:let me ask some question
1) do u support soft porn mag (topless) to be in singapore
2) do u support porn mag (butt naked) to be in singapore
3) do u support selling of R(A) VCD/DVD in public
4) do u support selling of XXX VCD/DVD in public
all of them come with an age limit
2) butts only? if yes - then to anyone
3) 16+
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1) yes, 18+Originally posted by stupidissmart:let me ask some question
1) do u support soft porn mag (topless) to be in singapore
2) do u support porn mag (butt naked) to be in singapore
3) do u support selling of R(A) VCD/DVD in public
4) do u support selling of XXX VCD/DVD in public
all of them come with an age limit
2) yes, 18+
3) yes, 21+
4) No... sends negative signals to ppl, exploring desires which might turn into actions. -
Personally , I have friends who have alcoholic fathers . They know it is bad seeing the damage it does to their fathers but they still follow in their fathers' footsteps.Originally posted by Gazelle:I believe children are born with a curious mind and the more you try to hide it away from them, they more they will want to find it. With internet, I think it is almost impossible for parent to hide porn away from children.
Instead of keeping it away from children, I think we should teach our children and explain to them that porn is not something bad or taboo, is it something for adults only., just like smoking or drinking.
Personally , I have grandparents who were chain smokers. I used to hate the smell but now I am a smoker as well.
So just imagine - the child watches porno - what would happen? It is saying that children who watch porno will learn that sex is exciting and good. Hence you increase their interests in sex - and then the next step is to teach them how to have sex? You are kidding me .
The worse outcome is that they learn that sex is not for love but for lust . Porno films have a degree of fantasy in it ( BDSM , fetishes etc - like looking upskirts, gangbangs) - what if the child who grows up with it , will not get satiated with his lust for sexual fantasies? A serial rapist/molester with a perchant for torture? An unfaithful husband like you? -
1) 18+
2) 18+
3) 21+
4) actually see how bad the content is
I think huh... nowsaday almost anybody had their hands on porn material already. When I was a school kid about 13, they were already circulating XXX video tapes (for me tat time is still video tapes ) around the class. Worse for me, nobody give me any good sex education but the person sitting next to me. It was only then do I realise wat the heck is masturbation and what are the differences betwen a guy and a girl -
with regards to (1) and (2)...boobies are boobies and arse is arse. no big deal.
so whats the big fuss? -
I dunno but I guess itsOriginally posted by thinger:with regards to (1) and (2)...boobies are boobies and arse is arse. no big deal.
so whats the big fuss?
1) Women are potrayed as sex objects
2) You get sex deprive maniacs like you know who -
yeah?
and dont tell me men arent sex objects either?
check out the tanned dudes with toned pecks and abs in chick mags...
and hugh grant, and nick cage, and jake gylanhall (cant spell for dick sorry,itsalo the redbullvodkas in me.) -
feckin doubledamnit.
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But I think there are much more tanned dude with toned pecks in the local guy magsOriginally posted by thinger:yeah?
and dont tell me men arent sex objects either?
check out the tanned dudes with toned pecks and abs in chick mags...
and hugh grant, and nick cage, and jake gylanhall (cant spell for dick sorry,itsalo the redbullvodkas in me.)
eg. Men's health
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say what?
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say what?
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most mags nowadays have issues/ topics regarding sex and you can just buy them off newpapers stand... it's alot of publicity for sex and it's general knowledge.
TVs, MTVs... all have a certain sexual content. I don't think parents need more other sources/ influences on their kids. Turning desires into actions would mean more rape, molest and more offences outraging modesty. Very bad idea to even try to leagalize pornographics. -
if parents had better education for their kids in school (not the out of sight out of mind bull) then maybe itd be okay.
lets get naked -
Actually the net is more than enough.....
At least there is some measure of monitoring involved... if we legalize it... not only we have to pay more to see less.... we face the danger of minors seeing it w/o proper guidance and permission
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ya... we already have ppl flushing new born baby down the toilet, recently someone simply toss a new born baby out of the window in a plastic bag...
so legalizing porn would help? I don't think so. -
This shows what a person of low morals that you areOriginally posted by greengoblin:Actually the net is more than enough.....
At least there is some measure of monitoring involved... if we legalize it... not only we have to pay more to see less.... we face the danger of minors seeing it w/o proper guidance and permission 
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Yeah, but try to think why on earth we get fcukedup people doing that sort of crap in the first place? Its due to shit morals + shit education.Originally posted by subzero_baby:ya... we already have ppl flushing new born baby down the toilet, recently someone simply toss a new born baby out of the window in a plastic bag...
so legalizing porn would help? I don't think so.
Stopping porn + other associated materials doesnt really irradicate the problem at its origin. Its just a way of achieving "out of sight, out of mind" - which is exactly what i was saying about drugs in singapore in the "Should Singapores Notorious Drug Laws Be Reviewed" thread. -
be objective, don't be personal.Originally posted by JusticeLegal:This shows what a person of low morals that you are -
Originally posted by Gazelle:
I suppose it will only benefit single free-thinkers, in terms of entertainment.
[b]If PM Lee really wants to make Singapore a more open society, he should start by legalizing pornography in Singapore. As a man living in Singapore, I feel that we are too deprieve of porn and it is making our sex life boring. Just imagine if one would to really abide the law in Singapore, there is a chance that he might live his whole life without knowing how a naked women looks like.
Keeping porn away from Singapore has actually create a very negative impact on the society, especially the man. And that is probably why sg women say Singapore men are not romantic and being too conservative.
In our life, there are only three things that mean most to us, and they are MONEY, FAMILY and SEX, regardless if you are man, women or in between. What is missing in Singapore, is the SEX!!
Beside we already know that most Singapore men are also visting porn site and downloading porn from filesharing website which are illegal.
Instead of trying to turning a blind eye on these activities, why donÂ’t the authority legalized porn so that we can encourage Singaporeans to obtain them from proper and legalized channels. Is our authority ready to charge 80% of our singapore men in court for having porn in their hard drive.
Beside the law, our gov should also consider having pornography as a new industry for singapore[/b]
But seriously, no matter how entertaining is, I think it will do more harm then good. -
Yeah, I have brought up this topic in a different thread and was waiting for someone to catch on to it. Do Singaporeans think the government has not thought of this measure if they have already posed the question of casino to the public?
To me, the casino issue is a test-bed for the government to see how far Singaporeans will accept their suggestions. When has social costs prevented economic development in Singapore?
Has anybody walked down the Esplanade lately? You can see naked statues all around. That can be called art, and also a way to prepare society for changes to come. And Singaporeans better expect it. In fact, it has already began, although as usual, carried out in low profile manner by the media.....
The Wall Street Journal
October 22, 2004
For Its Own Reasons, Singapore Is Getting Rather Gay-Friendly
Tourist Dollars Are Part of It, But There Still Are Limits; Renaming a 'Military' Ball
By GORDON FAIRCLOUGH
Staff Reporter of The Wall Street Journal
SINGAPORE -- This famously stodgy city-state is becoming an unlikely center of gay culture in Asia.
Nearly 8,000 gay men from around the world flocked to a beach resort here in August for an all-night party timed to coincide with Singapore's National Day. Laser lights played across the bodies of revelers, many shirtless and some stripped down to their Speedos, as they danced through the humid tropical night.
Gay bars, dance clubs and about a half-dozen bathhouses have sprung up. This past summer, the national art museum even featured an exhibit of homoerotic photos.
"Singapore's become much more tolerant and open," says Sean Ho, surveying the raucous scene at the dance party. Mr. Ho, a 33-year-old information-technology consultant, was decked out in a T-shirt proclaiming "Choose Sin" in large, red letters and "gapore" in smaller print. "They are giving us a lot more space," he says.
The driving force behind this change appears to be economic. One consideration: reaping so-called pink dollars from gay tourists. The August dance party and related events, including plays and art exhibitions with gay themes, pulled in about 2,500 foreign visitors and about $6 million, according to event organizers.
Singapore's more relaxed attitude toward homosexuality is also part of a broader government strategy to transform the small former British colony into a creative, idea-driven economy. That, Singapore's leaders realize, will require some loosening up, as well as a serious effort to change the world's perception of Singapore as a rigid, authoritarian place.
Singaporeans have long accepted a high degree of social control in exchange for state-delivered prosperity. But that is evolving as more Singaporeans are being exposed to the outside world through the Internet, travel and the globalized media.
Those same forces have awakened gay people in Singapore and across Asia to the greater acceptance of homosexuals in the West and elsewhere, encouraging more to live openly and demand civil liberties.
Once a taboo topic in Singapore, homosexuality has had a lot of attention in the local press. The cover of a weekly magazine recently touted the feature "Queer Eye for a Straight Nation." One commentator in the article suggested the new prime minister, Lee Hsien Loong, could improve his look by opting for a wardrobe of "all white leather."
The official Singapore Tourism Board commissioned a study of last year's Nation party, which looked at "the potential of tapping on these attendees to bring in tourism receipts." This year, the tourism board advertised the event under the headline "Party All the Time."
While some gay Singaporeans don't like the focus on the pink dollar, others see the profit motive as an avenue for gaining expanded rights. "It's highly unlikely we'll ever get gay rights on the grounds of civil liberties," says Dominic Chua, a 29-year-old schoolteacher. "The only appeal that seems to work is a pragmatic one that relies on dollars and cents."
In fact, the government remains decidedly ambivalent about gay people. In an interview last year, then-Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong said that gays "are like you and me" and shouldn't face discrimination in the civil service. But laws prohibiting homosexual acts remain on the books.
The government has also refused to register a group campaigning for equal rights for gays, saying that it is "contrary to public interest to grant legitimacy to the promotion of homosexual activities and viewpoints." Under Singapore law, societies must register with the government. Recently, censors banned a Taiwanese film about two gay teens, saying it "conveys the message that homosexuality is normal."
"This place is full of contradictions," says Stuart Koe, chief executive officer of Fridae.com, a gay Web portal with its main office in Singapore, and the organizer of the August parties. "Change at the grass roots is outpacing change at the policy level. But things are moving in the right direction."
Many things, such as a gay-pride parade, remain out of bounds. Arjan Nijen Twilhaar, editor in chief of gay-oriented magazine Manazine RA, says officials have warned him against "promoting a gay lifestyle," and have objected to photos of "too skimpy" underwear in an ad. "You are always on thin ice," says Mr. Nijen Twilhaar, "and you never know when it's going to crack."
August's dance parties got official scrutiny, too. A "Military Ball" planned this year had to be renamed. Police said they were concerned that guests might inadvertently break the law by wearing uniforms without authorization -- an offense in Singapore. Nation organizers say authorities also objected to anti-AIDS campaigners handing out condoms and pamphlets. The local police objected to the materials "based on the misunderstanding that they promoted gay sex," Mr. Koe says. The distribution ceased, but the police said in a statement that they did not request "the removal of any booth."
Critics of the government say all this smacks of hypocrisy. The government is content to let gay bathhouses with names such as TowelClub and Raw exist in the center of town, but loath, say some activists, to give gays permission for much besides sex, dancing and drinking.
"Entertainment doesn't challenge their political dominance," says Alex Au, a leader of People Like Us, the group that the government won't register, thus limiting its ability to raise funds and hold public meetings. The group is seeking the repeal of colonial-era antisodomy laws, which generally aren't enforced against consenting adults.
Of the government, Mr. Au says, "they are driven by economic imperatives. But they're trying to do the absolute minimum they can get away with, so it doesn't chip away at their ability to control the political agenda." Mr. Au believes the government blocked registration of his group not because it represents gays, but because it is independent: "They dislike any organization they can't co-opt or control fully."
A spokesman for Singapore's Ministry of Home Affairs says: "Many Singaporeans continue to voice their objections to displays of homosexual behavior. There are certain things that homosexuals want which are not feasible now," including the setting up of a society.
In many ways, the 32-year-old Mr. Koe and his enterprises are emblematic of the shifts that are taking place. Mr. Koe, who has been openly homosexual since he was a teenager, spent six years at the University of Minnesota, where he earned a doctorate in pharmacy before returning to Singapore in 1997. He worked in the life-sciences division of the government's Economic Development Board before leaving to start Fridae, one of the largest gay-oriented Web sites in Asia.
Mr. Koe, who lives with his partner, another executive at Fridae, says: "Sometimes, we ask ourselves: 'Is it futile? Should we just move to New York where people get it?' " For now, however, they have decided to stay. "At the end of the day, I'm quite happy to be here. It's gratifying to see the changes and be a part of it," he says.