US atrocities in Korea
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The link below is a short 5 mins plus clip on the atrocities commited by US troops in Korea. Commentary in Korean with English subtitles. Downloadable by right clicking then select "Save Target As" or can view staright away with Windows Media Player. It contain a little graphic, children are encouraged to refrain from watching.
Feedback is welcomed.
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japan comitted far worse attrocieties than that in way larger numbers..that's just peanuts.anyway, there's nothing more fun than watching a bunch of screwed up kim chii eaters getting abused. what ingrates, they would be overrun by commies if GIs had not saved their rotten cabbage arses, btw korean airport customs are bloody inefficient and sucky..slower than 90 yr old biatches giving bjs.
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poor kids
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but I was wondering
1.what are those 2 girls doing in a military training area? It should be out of bounds to civilians.
2. If a convoy of 70 ton M1A1 or 30 ton M2 Bradlys are moving towards you, will you be so dumb to stand there and let it roll over you? -
i guess them koreans couldn't read the sign that said RESTRICTED AREA, INTRUDERS WILL BE SHOT, or in their case..rolled over.Originally posted by CenturionMBT:but I was wondering
1.what are those 2 girls doing in a military training area? It should be out of bounds to civilians.
2. If a convoy of 70 ton M1A1 or 30 ton M2 Bradlys are moving towards you, will you be so dumb to stand there and let it roll over you? -
yeah... japanese dogs are undisputed champions when it comes to commiting atrocitiesOriginally posted by vito_corleone:japan comitted far worse attrocieties than that in way larger numbers..that's just peanuts.anyway, there's nothing more fun than watching a bunch of screwed up kim chii eaters getting abused. what ingrates, they would be overrun by commies if GIs had not saved their rotten cabbage arses, btw korean airport customs are bloody inefficient and sucky..slower than 90 yr old biatches giving bjs.
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For your information, the yankees are allowed to drive their caterpillars in civilian areaOriginally posted by CenturionMBT:but I was wondering
1.what are those 2 girls doing in a military training area? It should be out of bounds to civilians.
2. If a convoy of 70 ton M1A1 or 30 ton M2 Bradlys are moving towards you, will you be so dumb to stand there and let it roll over you? -
Yankees are no angels in Korea, but this is obviously a commie propaganda, trying to get the american troops out of korea!!
Only commie calls the yankee imperialists!!
It is sad to see how such a tragedy can be used for politics and for private agenda. -
propaganda or not, US presence should not be felt in asia, below is a song dedicated to you.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Yankees are no angels in Korea, but this is obviously a commie propaganda, trying to get the american troops out of korea!!
Only commie calls the yankee imperialists!!
It is sad to see how such a tragedy can be used for politics and for private agenda.
OsamaÂ’s Song (Take II)
(Sung to the catchy little tune of “If you’re happy and you know it…”)
If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.
If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq.
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq.
If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq.
If we think someone has dissed us, bomb Iraq.
So to hell with the inspections,
Lets look tough for the elections,
Close your mind and take directions,
Bomb Iraq.
Its “pre-emptive non-aggression”, bomb Iraq.
LetÂ’s prevent this mass destruction, bomb Iraq.
TheyÂ’ve got weapons we canÂ’t see,
And thatÂ’s good enough for me,
‘Cos its all the proof I need,
Bomb Iraq.
If you never were elected, bomb Iraq.
If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq.
If you think SaddamÂ’s gone mad,
With the weapons that he had,
(And he tried to kill your dad),
Bomb Iraq.
If your corporate fraud is growingÂ’, bomb Iraq.
If your ties to it are showing, bomb Iraq.
If your politics are sleazy,
And hiding that ainÂ’t easy,
And your manhoodÂ’s getting queasy,
Bomb Iraq.
Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq.
For our might knows not our borders, bomb Iraq.
Disagree? WeÂ’ll call it treason,
Lets make war not love this season,
Even if we have no reason,
Bomb Iraq. -
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1.it is not such a simple buisness as i hate the americans. Lets get them out of this land. The americans provides alot of jobs in korea directly and indirectly.If you want them out, how are you going to answer to those who have been providing their services to the americans?Originally posted by ctstalin:propaganda or not, US presence should not be felt in asia, below is a song dedicated to you.
OsamaÂ’s Song (Take II)
(Sung to the catchy little tune of “If you’re happy and you know it…”)
If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.
If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq.
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq.
If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq.
If we think someone has dissed us, bomb Iraq.
So to hell with the inspections,
Lets look tough for the elections,
Close your mind and take directions,
Bomb Iraq.
Its “pre-emptive non-aggression”, bomb Iraq.
LetÂ’s prevent this mass destruction, bomb Iraq.
TheyÂ’ve got weapons we canÂ’t see,
And thatÂ’s good enough for me,
‘Cos its all the proof I need,
Bomb Iraq.
If you never were elected, bomb Iraq.
If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq.
If you think SaddamÂ’s gone mad,
With the weapons that he had,
(And he tried to kill your dad),
Bomb Iraq.
If your corporate fraud is growingÂ’, bomb Iraq.
If your ties to it are showing, bomb Iraq.
If your politics are sleazy,
And hiding that ainÂ’t easy,
And your manhoodÂ’s getting queasy,
Bomb Iraq.
Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq.
For our might knows not our borders, bomb Iraq.
Disagree? WeÂ’ll call it treason,
Lets make war not love this season,
Even if we have no reason,
Bomb Iraq.
2. The american presence is the thing that had been detering the N.Koreans from attacking into the south all these years. Are you going to guarentee that the n.koreans will not attack into S.korea when they pull out?
sentiments are one thing, practicallity is another. It may hurt to have another country's troops in your country. But between the two evils, would you choose the lesser of the two evils?
US should pull out, only when N.korea has moderated its stance and when south korea is ready to take all its defense in its own hands. Otherwise, the time is not ripe yet. -
strangely, i see this thing like something that's happening in the world a lot...
when the "bad guys" (here, N Korea) commits atrocities, no one bats an eyelid... when the "good guys" (here the US fellas) does so, even accidentally, the whole world is on their case...
why can't the world also be on the case of the "bad guys" too? heck! any atrocity needs to be condemned hard...
or do is it that the "bad guys" have done it so much it ceases to become news anymore and we're desensitised to it? -
The South can already take it's defence in it's own hand. Remember, ROK has twice the population than DPRK. The reason why the Yankees are still there is because they are standbying to attack the North. Therefore, the North have to develope N-weapons to protect themselvesOriginally posted by CenturionMBT:1.it is not such a simple buisness as i hate the americans. Lets get them out of this land. The americans provides alot of jobs in korea directly and indirectly.If you want them out, how are you going to answer to those who have been providing their services to the americans?
Services: Chastity of innocent womenfolk?
2. The american presence is the thing that had been detering the N.Koreans from attacking into the south all these years. Are you going to guarentee that the n.koreans will not attack into S.korea when they pull out?
Are you going to guarantee the South would not attack the North? Sorry you can't, neither can i guarantee the North won't attack. It's all up to the government. But my dream is to one day see the Korean peninsula to be united as one, under the control of Pyongyang not Seoul, by whatever means possible.
sentiments are one thing, practicallity is another. It may hurt to have another country's troops in your country. But between the two evils, would you choose the lesser of the two evils?
Are you saying that the North is more evil than the US?
US should pull out, only when N.korea has moderated its stance and when south korea is ready to take all its defense in its own hands. Otherwise, the time is not ripe yet.
Cheers -
Examples of atrocities?Originally posted by the Bear:strangely, i see this thing like something that's happening in the world a lot...
when the "bad guys" (here, N Korea) commits atrocities, no one bats an eyelid... when the "good guys" (here the US fellas) does so, even accidentally, the whole world is on their case...
why can't the world also be on the case of the "bad guys" too? heck! any atrocity needs to be condemned hard...
or do is it that the "bad guys" have done it so much it ceases to become news anymore and we're desensitised to it? -
I am no US hater but it's time Americans should think about why they are hated by so many around the world. From Vietnam to Laos to Cambodia to Panama... Millions of civilians have died from US altrocities.
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/vietnamgenocide/Vietnam.html
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/vietnamgenocide/Laos.html
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/vietnamgenocide/Cambodia.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4078.htm
Not to mention the overthrowing of democratic governments in Chile, Greece etc and replacing them with pro US dictatorships. -
Bravo *Clap Clap*Originally posted by Blueray:I am no US hater but it's time Americans should think about why they are hated by so many around the world. From Vietnam to Laos to Cambodia to Panama... Millions of civilians have died from US altrocities.
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/vietnamgenocide/Vietnam.html
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/vietnamgenocide/Laos.html
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/vietnamgenocide/Cambodia.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4078.htm
Not to mention the overthrowing of democratic governments in Chile, Greece etc and replacing them with pro US dictatorships. -
North Korea?
you don't know? how many Japanese were kidnapped and raised as North Koreans so that they can be "spies for North Korea"?
how many thousands die from malnutrition simply because of the hubris of their "Dear Leader"?
btw, against a million-strong army with tactical nuke capabilities, you think the South Koreans can handle their own defence? maybe.. do you wanna try? do they wanna try?
heck...
i think the US is the lesser of the two evils...
BUT.. when give credit and vilification where they are due... the North Koreans are currently pointing a gun to their own head while holding everyone hostage in the situation..
"i'll allow you to give aid to my starving people if you let me continue to experiment with nuclear weapons"
if that's not atrocity against their own people, what is?
and... for unequal reporting that skews people's opinions, just look at Israel and the Palestinians..
the Palestinians use their own people to murder Israelis with suicide bombers... innocent Israel women and children are killed indiscriminately, no one says anything about condemning Hamas and whatever who claims responsibility...
in retaliation, the Israelis demolish the house of the suicide bomber (whose family receives cash.. ironically $25,000 in the Great Satan's currency) and the whole world cries foul...
these are incidents.. if you do not go further than just the surface, you'd never know, would you?
i'm not a chest-thumping warhawk.. but there is a time when facing maniacs like the North Korean "Dear Leader" who has a history of psychosis, when facing lunatic fanatics who will not hesitate to kill themselves just to blow up women and children as part of their "vendetta against the Jews", remember who started the whole thing and who has continued with the threats of violence or real violence...
besides, it's easy for us to rant against them... we don't live there.. we don't have to face the consequences if under pressure, those who are "standing guard" quit their posts...
if you were an Israeli living in Israel, would you feel safer knowing that armed patrols are around to stop suicide bombers, or would you rather they not be there and the last things you hear on planet earth was "ALLAHU AKBAR!! KABOOOM!"? -
CheersOriginally posted by the Bear:North Korea?
you don't know? how many Japanese were kidnapped and raised as North Koreans so that they can be "spies for North Korea"?
Do you know how many North Koreans are kidnapped by South Korea using the term "refugees". These numbers are big when compared to the Japanese. Furthermore, Dear Leader Kim Jong Il has already admitted in the kidnaps, and has since sent Hitomi Soga and family back to Japan.
how many thousands die from malnutrition simply because of the hubris of their "Dear Leader"?
The crap stories of malnutritions and starvations are propaganda tools used by western medias and its puppets to discredit the DPRK. Yes, food aid is needed, but do you know more than half of North Korea's land is unsuitable for agriculture? It has also been a victim of severe flooding, especially in the arable western region. Go to the North yourself one day, you'll see Pyongyang is a great city.
btw, against a million-strong army with tactical nuke capabilities, you think the South Koreans can handle their own defence? maybe.. do you wanna try? do they wanna try?
Please turn the clock back several months ago when scientists in the South admitted they had done uranium enrichment secretly. They were not condemned like the North, the IAEA promises to investigate and take actions but up till now, the US is still practising double standards. With protection by the US, the North has nochoice but to protect itself with N-weapons. Please take note: who first developed N-weapons, who threw the first N-bomb, and who during the Cold War continue to develope WMD. And now the country who started all this sh|t wants to stop another from arming itself with it, without first setting an example to disarm.
heck...
i think the US is the lesser of the two evils...
BUT.. when give credit and vilification where they are due... the North Koreans are currently pointing a gun to their own head while holding everyone hostage in the situation..
"i'll allow you to give aid to my starving people if you let me continue to experiment with nuclear weapons"
Like i said earlier, starving is not common is DPRK, all propaganda. The US is starting the Cold War again. Tell me, which country don't have poverty or starvation?
if that's not atrocity against their own people, what is?
and... for unequal reporting that skews people's opinions, just look at Israel and the Palestinians..
the Palestinians use their own people to murder Israelis with suicide bombers... innocent Israel women and children are killed indiscriminately, no one says anything about condemning Hamas and whatever who claims responsibility...
I must reiterate that i don't agree with the Palestine method. But flashback to the 50's, to whom is the land currently Israel belongs to. All Palestinians must fight for the sovereignty of the Palestine. A lot of Arabs were massacred by US and Israeli forces during the Arab-Israeli War. Now you know there is Holocaust.
in retaliation, the Israelis demolish the house of the suicide bomber (whose family receives cash.. ironically $25,000 in the Great Satan's currency) and the whole world cries foul...
The Palestinians are already living in poverty and they cramp many people in one house. Whereas the Israelis lived comfortably at the expense of the Palestinians on Palestinian territory.
these are incidents.. if you do not go further than just the surface, you'd never know, would you?
i'm not a chest-thumping warhawk.. but there is a time when facing maniacs like the North Korean "Dear Leader" who has a history of psychosis, when facing lunatic fanatics who will not hesitate to kill themselves just to blow up women and children as part of their "vendetta against the Jews", remember who started the whole thing and who has continued with the threats of violence or real violence...
Psychosis? Whoever told you Dear Leader Kim Jong Il was psychotic? Times? The Washington Post? New York Times? International Herald Tribune? The Straits Times? Our Dear Leader is in perfect health.
besides, it's easy for us to rant against them... we don't live there.. we don't have to face the consequences if under pressure, those who are "standing guard" quit their posts...
if you were an Israeli living in Israel, would you feel safer knowing that armed patrols are around to stop suicide bombers, or would you rather they not be there and the last things you hear on planet earth was "ALLAHU AKBAR!! KABOOOM!"?
Lastly, is Israel on it's own territory? Would you fight back if say, Malaysia occupied Singapore and subject us to terror and heavy economic restrictions? -
I can't believe it. But i have to ask. Are you communist?
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erm, yes and no, so wads wrong being one?Originally posted by CenturionMBT:I can't believe it. But i have to ask. Are you communist? -
Nothing. I just want to know. Well my dear , you can't sit on a fence. Either you are one or you are not.
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Is that South Korea?
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what about the misappropriation of funds by the Dear Leader, using it to buy luxury cars, cognac, etc?
And uh, how did u know that starvation is not common in north korea?
DPRK propaganda?
so its a case of whose propaganda we believe after all rite? Do we choose to believe the propaganda of DPRK state media or do we choose to believe the propaganda of International Herald Tribune, Associated Press, CNN and BBC?
hmm, decisions decisions....
eh ctstalin, is there one single major act of the united states since 1900 that u have agreed with? -
The US will disengage from South Korea on its own volition within the next decade. First, it doesn't have to put up with the increasing domestic hostility to its presence. Second, they need their troops elsewhere as they are already capacity constrained. Third, they will hand over the North Korean problem to the Chinese who, as befits their growing international status, will have to deal with regional pariahs, particularly when it is one of their making.
Until the Chinese displaced them this decade, South Koreans were the single largest source of Asian business immigrants to the US and Canada. So that video is total crap with respect to how the US has mistreated Koreans, or Koreans are simply hypocrits. -
The only one i agreed with is its late late intervention in WW2Originally posted by laser51088:what about the misappropriation of funds by the Dear Leader, using it to buy luxury cars, cognac, etc?
And uh, how did u know that starvation is not common in north korea?
DPRK propaganda?
so its a case of whose propaganda we believe after all rite? Do we choose to believe the propaganda of DPRK state media or do we choose to believe the propaganda of International Herald Tribune, Associated Press, CNN and BBC?
hmm, decisions decisions....
eh ctstalin, is there one single major act of the united states since 1900 that u have agreed with?