SCHOOL - any complain ???
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My son in Yio Chu Kang PRimary. One day, told to go back for remedial but the day and time clashes with outside tuition. Happy tot school responsible. So cancel outside tution to cater to school schdule. Then school cannot comfirm when to start. So let son to outside tuition again. Suddenly say start on the next day.
Again, cancelled the tuition and go to school, only to find out the teacher didn't turn up for remedial. Again, my son missed his tuition class outside. The tuition supposed to follow school syllebus but not all hay wire .....
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change school...
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Thought of that last year.. But we move here just because of my son study lor... How to just change school like that? The principle is of no help at all lor.. Always say to help change but the teachers attitude is one Hell of a Kind...
Supposed when he is bigger, ( now P2 ) only, may consider change.... -
Is your kid happy there?
Is the school covering aspects that you feel important for your child...
I changed school from Geylang Methodist (Ajunied) to Anglican High (Upper Changi) because the teacher there could not teach.
The destination school principal was willing to take me in and that's all I needed... -
My wife and I source various place and found our flat which is next to my son school. My parent was also a primary concern when we enrolled him. I had wanted him to go Hougang Primary instead since that one is a better school but decided to go for convenient lor.
Apparently he is happy but his result still not that good lor. Like my two elder ones, we don't stress him un-necessary lor. I had spoken to some teachers there and feel they are not professional lor... They work as teacher not for the love of it but because of the bread and butter issue... I wanted to go school today to confront the principle on this but decided not too as I afraid my son will be vitimised. He is too afraid to tell me anything now..
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It depends on what you wanted for your kid and with that kind of edu, can the kid go to upper sec and catch up. Children adapt to change quite easily but as people always like to remain status quo. Most public school teachers are like this... they are just there for the $. Its hard to find any passionate ones left...
Its not important what the school teaches but its more important to influence in your child that its a good thing to learn and imbue in him the curiosity to go learn and go seek information for himself... but if the teachers are unprofessional, then you guys as parents can influence him more at home. Schools only provide basics and if that's the case, then really, you guys got to be more actively involved. But if you want to change his school, you guys better do it sooner than later. And also, explain to him why you are doing this. Get him involved in the change process as well and coach him during the change and also recognise the possible loss, and other feelings that will occure during the change.
I might be wrong but I have this feeling that schools in the north is more catered to Jorhorians?
If you ask me, education starts at home. I was very disciplined bcause that's what I see in my parents. -
to make the correct decision, you have to know the personality of your kid and guide the kid along..
I was hardy and every 2 yrs I change school... -
You may be right lor... Still, when it comes to this sort of things, the normal advise is to leave alone if it doesn't affect the child too much. On the other hand, a change of school may be good for him. Will listen to your advise and chat with my wife and we will then sit down to discuss his future... Thanks alot.....
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good luck!
Whatever it is, its most important to have your kid grow up to be a good person with strong values and thinking...
Most schools have failed badly in this aspect... -
P2 nia so much tution. so kiasu for wat.Originally posted by ORIGAMIST:Thought of that last year.. But we move here just because of my son study lor... How to just change school like that? The principle is of no help at all lor.. Always say to help change but the teachers attitude is one Hell of a Kind...
Supposed when he is bigger, ( now P2 ) only, may consider change....
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No suprise considering that the eudcation system here seems to be one of elimination rather than education. To survive the cuts and move to the next round(e.g. Sec sch, jc, uni etc), our kids have to become competitive and many are taught to avoid helping their weaker classmates for that very reason. The rat race in Singapore begins at Primary 1.Originally posted by mistyblue:good luck!
Whatever it is, its most important to have your kid grow up to be a good person with strong values and thinking...
Most schools have failed badly in this aspect...
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jia lat.. we end up with ppl who are self centered and stupid ...
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Think can complain to mp or MOE.
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What to do? His Chinese so bad and the stupid teacher always scold for his poor Chinese. Actually, we are at fault becaue at home we don't speak Chinese mah... Then when he asked us about Chinese, no one can help ... So must Tution or not, you say lah... Not cheap you know...Originally posted by crazy monkey:P2 nia so much tution. so kiasu for wat. -
x2.....Originally posted by av98m:No suprise considering that the eudcation system here seems to be one of elimination rather than education. To survive the cuts and move to the next round(e.g. Sec sch, jc, uni etc), our kids have to become competitive and many are taught to avoid helping their weaker classmates for that very reason. The rat race in Singapore begins at Primary 1.
How many times do we stream our students?
Pri 4, Pri 6, Sec 2, Sec 4.... did I leave anything out?
And MOE.... don't give me this bullsh*t about how SG's education system is world-class, US students are using our textbooks, etc etc.
It's not world-class when we stifle the creativity of our students for so many years and expect them to pull rabbits out of their hats when drastic changes are made in a short space of time.
It is not world class when we turn the education of our young into an elitist system where the smart ones get groomed and the supposedly 'Normal' ones get condemned and shunned by society.
It is not world class when we do all sorts of flip-flops in education policy like the time when they abruptly yanked the SAT requirement from the admission to unis after just 2 years or so. A number of my friends signed up and sweated for SAT just to reapply for uni admissions. We were the last batch to not have to take SAT, you see.
I recall hearing a collective stream of profanities from them when the news broke out that SAT is no longer needed.
Heck, I once remembered that back in Sec 4, my form teacher showed my class a file from MOE. It was MOE's expectations of what grades we would get in the upcoming O Levels. I was expected by those imbeciles, I mean, MOE HQ personnel, to get 15 for my L1R5 and B3 and B4 for my E Maths and A Maths respectively.
I got 8 points for my L1R5, A1 for E Maths, and A2 for A Maths.
I'm not trying to boast.... I'm trying to say one thing:
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ORIGAMIST, it is a sad fact here that all our teachers are a mericless mercenary bunch who do not care for their students. They are here for the dough only. I have hear so much painful stories from my tuition kids of how incompetent their teachers are. Makes me sick that such idiots are running and in turn ruining the lives of our precious kids. Teachers please live up to your professionalism. Don't just teach for the sake of teaching
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Last year I met my elder son school principal. He was telling us the the "N" level is coming and that we have to start monitoring our children study blah blah blah... As thought we don't know. What I was interested is what the school is going to do on it part. Finally, the principle say, to get tution of our kids, That is the only way and practical way. He himself a school principal also get tutor for his children. For him, he set aside something like 1 k every month. He say this money cannot be save. I was damn fed up. Does this mean the school can wash hand ??? I did not meet the principal personally as I know I'll likely to f him.....
See, even principal behave like tat, how to expect the teacher to do a good job. I didn't blame them for my son failure. Afterall, he is the one taking the exam and he have to study for it, but the support should be coming from the school, instead the school is interested in holding my son back and say he dye his hair. ( HIs hair is naturally light brown ). Then want him to dye black or get letter from Doctor to say his hair is natural... CAn you believe that ? He was sick and bought a black jacket to wear when the weather was cold. He was asked to bring a brown one or not to bring at all....!!
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If the principal is like that... consider very carefully the kind of school the kid is in. Principlas set the mood, goals and values of the school ... I was lucky enough to get into private school and was very luck to be in good public schools as well.
Here's the real deal. I had a fren in teaching line. After 1 year of teaching, all her passion died and she just stuck in teaching cause there was no where else to go because she gave up her I.T. cause she hated I.T. .. she just can't deals with the pressure and tot idealistically she like children and got into teaching. And after that year, she hated the school children except her own.
Now, if the children needed extra coaching outside of school to make up for the bad teaching in school, then might as well save up and stop sending the child to school ... This is totally not correct anymore! My mom sent me to mission schools (I am not xtian) cause somehow these schools usualy are run with a (xtian) value system that is slightly better than public schools. I just keep a open mind...
For most schools, most are extremely inflexible unless you're talking about private schools. I don't mind some discipline but it must be reasonable and flexible. However, most schools just penalise the child for reasons not in his control and makes the kid feel inadequate and thus develop poor self image...
My bf has naturally curly hair .. imagine having hair like this in school where ever teacher accuse him of perming his hair. To add to the issue, he's got that kind of gangster face .. so he gets picked on by the teachers simply because of his looks. For me, I look gong gong.. so teachers don't bug me. -
i am a teacher...teaching in a local school..i dun support the school system..u r right ..too much focus on the elite anyway...scholars in MOE HQ always kajiao us by setting stupid policies like ISO...WITS, I & E..yawn ...teachers are always involve in so many paperwork..how to teach properly..teaching has become too complex...sigh..
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My family also don't speak Mandarin at home. Started my kids on Chinese tuition from young. It makes a difference to start them early. Expose them to Chinese programmes & pop songs. Get them to attend group tuition in lang sch. with Beijing teachers, it abt $100 p/mth. don't stress them & they will produce results.Originally posted by ORIGAMIST:What to do? His Chinese so bad and the stupid teacher always scold for his poor Chinese. Actually, we are at fault becaue at home we don't speak Chinese mah... Then when he asked us about Chinese, no one can help ... So must Tution or not, you say lah... Not cheap you know... -
Get the class teacher's hp & email address. Some schs. are very good. They will give a letter to inform parents when the kids have to stay back for remedial. If the teacher cancels too often, then u should give her a call.Originally posted by ORIGAMIST:My son in Yio Chu Kang PRimary. One day, told to go back for remedial but the day and time clashes with outside tuition. Happy tot school responsible. So cancel outside tution to cater to school schdule. Then school cannot comfirm when to start. So let son to outside tuition again. Suddenly say start on the next day.
Again, cancelled the tuition and go to school, only to find out the teacher didn't turn up for remedial. Again, my son missed his tuition class outside. The tuition supposed to follow school syllebus but not all hay wire .....
Check whether the remedials are effective before signing for tuition.
Don't give tuition on every subjs. only the weaker ones cos u don't want to overload your kid. They also need time to relax.
As to changing to better sch., best time is after P.3 streaming cos there will be vacancies after the gifted prog. Talk to principal of the sch. u like. -
As mentioned in my post, the teacher had screw-up my tution plan for my kids. Now the tution side have been cancelled.... no more vacancies, in the mean time, the remedial is off indefinately. Before, the start of the remedial, already got problem. Spoke to the VP and had heated arguement. It seem we owe them a living.... My experience with the school is, you even go personally and leave message, they never call back. When you confront them with it, they can give all kind of excuses. They thought we are all primary school students.... The excuses is damn very lame .... Anyway, your suggestion is worth considering. Got to check with my wife and seek her opionion too... Thanks ....Originally posted by gerrykoh:Get the class teacher's hp & email address. Some schs. are very good. They will give a letter to inform parents when the kids have to stay back for remedial. If the teacher cancels too often, then u should give her a call.
Check whether the remedials are effective before signing for tuition.
Don't give tuition on every subjs. only the weaker ones cos u don't want to overload your kid. They also need time to relax.
As to changing to better sch., best time is after P.3 streaming cos there will be vacancies after the gifted prog. Talk to principal of the sch. u like. -
my daughter is in pri 5 studying in a neighbourhood school. nowadays her english teacher conducts remedial classes at 9 am, my daughter studies in the afternoon session, and then her higher chinese teacher conducts remedial classes at 7.45pm till 9 pm. when my daughter comes back home, she has to complete piles of homework before sleeping at around midnight. and remedial class again the next day. i don't envy her. but nothing i, as a parent, can do to stop this nonsense, cos from what i know, the other kiasu parents were pretty supportive of it. and by the way, not all classes got night lessons though. only the best two classes of her cohort. i hope this is not their way of making the better students 'elite'. i rather my daughter is enjoying a less stressful childhood.
oh, another neighbourhood school nearby also has night classes. so i wonder what's up with that. -
wah lau pri sch only leh. i still remember my pri is like normal lessons only den no need study one.Originally posted by commonsense:my daughter is in pri 5 studying in a neighbourhood school. nowadays her english teacher conducts remedial classes at 9 am, my daughter studies in the afternoon session, and then her higher chinese teacher conducts remedial classes at 7.45pm till 9 pm. when my daughter comes back home, she has to complete piles of homework before sleeping at around midnight. and remedial class again the next day. i don't envy her. but nothing i, as a parent, can do to stop this nonsense, cos from what i know, the other kiasu parents were pretty supportive of it. and by the way, not all classes got night lessons though. only the best two classes of her cohort. i hope this is not their way of making the better students 'elite'. i rather my daughter is enjoying a less stressful childhood.
oh, another neighbourhood school nearby also has night classes. so i wonder what's up with that.
PSLE oso so easy and its not impt, in secondary sch onwards, how u perform has nth to do with wad u do in pri sch -
i also have experience with incompletent teachers...just a few mths back i was seating for my O lvl, my Eng very Jialat..then i ask my teacher y this verb need to put s this no need...then u noe wat she reply?she say: how i noe? english very funny one lah, u just remember this one no need put s.maybe she give me this kind of atitdute cos i not her students, but she is a teacher frm the same sch after all right?then my math teacher every 10 days got 1 day MC.a little bit sick then dun want to come, bad mood then dun wan to teach.just give us homework to do.then sometimes she bad mood, she dun open her mouth to teach and instead write down all the formular for us to apply.Those who take geog will noe that u will have 6 qns frm 6 chapts and u need to do 3.my teacher skip one of the chapts!Last time i sec 1 that time my math teacher i think change 7 times..end up whole class only 5 ppl pass.then those teacher all trainee i think...all bo chap attitdue.KNS my lower sec time the teacher always change one....i think the NIE send them for trail using us..but luckily things got better when i reach upper sec...no more NIE trainee for us..or else i dun noe how to survive my Os.talking abt private tution, i think it is a must lah..some teachers really jialat...but there are some very good one also...everyday stay at school until 5-6pm to wait for students to ask them questions..esp those older ones.some buys things to reward u when u did well.