If SMRT must share their subway fares with SBST-NEL, the latter must allow free transfer from 160 to 950 at the Causeway.Originally posted by Profounder:6. NEL, again!
NEL to SBS Transit vs SMRT. What competition are you talking about when one line plies through estates not served by SMRT and both lines happen to be essential transport platforms for majority of Singaporeans. Don't get it? If you stay in Sengkang and want to get to Raffles Pl, you die die also must take the SMRT line because smart and profiteering SBS happened to cancel their bus services there! So what cost-savings is there??
9. Perpetual Jams at Orchard Boulevard
LTA must be idiots not to only know about the problem after it has been recurring year after year.
Tibs pulled out 950 & 952 when WDL line was ready. They also chopped 5 after BPLRT started ops. By the time the latter event took place, SMRT and Tibs were on the road to merger.Originally posted by sbst275:And, when MRT system came, SBS also had to withdraw bus rts... Can you look at issues at a balanced manner?
iveco, DID YOU GET IT WANT I SAID???Originally posted by iveco:
The one near Police Academy loh...Originally posted by Profounder:1. Em... For the qn on NEL, the cmty there will be cleared to build HDB flats... The Circle Line will have 1 station build near cmty...
Whoa, which part of the cemetery? Tell me quick, so I can be the first to queue to buy a flat built on top of a Muslim cemetery. And I think I must have missed out on the reports noting the many floors of unsold flats and half-completed flats in Singapore.
2. As for operation, SMRT is the one that is profittering... Ever since day 1, NEL off peak frequency is at 5-7 mins. SMRT is at 7-10 mins.
Off peak 5 mins?? Man, I must have astigmatism. Or maybe I wasn't taking NEL. Maybe it was SEL or EEL or WEL or whatever...
3. And, when MRT system came, SBS also had to withdraw bus rts...
Of course, SBS had to withdraw bus routes because they are first and foremost a profit-making enterprise!! So now, I am forced to take NEL then take SMRT because I don't have a bus to my office from my estate. So forced to take NEL and SMRT, I'm contributing to the competition. Maybe that's a new definition of competition I didn't come across in EC101.
I think the changes will make traffic flow better... Maybe even faster to get from Somerset Rd to Orchard TurnOriginally posted by Profounder:And of course, come July the road near Youth Park will be closed. That is impressive.
22 Dec 2002 I was stuck in a jam before Pheonix Hotel for 1 hour on my way to friend's wedding.
22 Dec 2003 I was stuck in a jam before Orchard Cineleisure for 1 hour on my way to a meeting.
22 Dec 2004 I was stuck in a jam before Pheonix Hotel on my way to pick up a client.
Oh man, I think I shouldn't blame LTA. I should go take a course on time management because late as it is, LTA someday will lick the problem.
Tell me, IVECO, if you see a traffic jam right outside your house for 5 days in a row, what do you do?
You wait 3 years, see the same thing happening everyday, then do a study, then take action! Come on, there has to be some common sense. Taxpayers don't pay money to stat boards like LTA to have them sit there and do nothing until some member of the public bring a massive problem to their attention.
Dear ProfounderOriginally posted by Profounder:My choice:
LAND TRANSPORT AUTHORITY
6. NEL, again!
NEL to SBS Transit vs SMRT. What competition are you talking about when one line plies through estates not served by SMRT and both lines happen to be essential transport platforms for majority of Singaporeans. Don't get it? If you stay in Sengkang and want to get to Raffles Pl, you die die also must take the SMRT line because smart and profiteering SBS happened to cancel their bus services there! So what cost-savings is there??
Pearlie, they complete in service standard though they dun run the same lineOriginally posted by pearlie27:Dear Profounder
I fully agree with you that LTA is the most incompetent ministry.
What competition are they talking about when the 2 lines don't ply the same area. Moreover, MRT is a very expensive infrastructure and should be undertaken by only one operator to have the economy of scale and expertise.
What about the LRT?
Now they are increasing the fine on taxi companies if their taxi safety standard is not up to mark. Have they actually found out why is the safety standard sliding, why it only happens recently, and is increasing fine the right solution to it ?
iveco, this is like comparing apples with oranges...Originally posted by iveco:Suppose you take 160 from KJ MRT to WL Checkpoint, then hop on to 950 to JB Checkpoint, then 170 towards Larkin, you'll be charged 3 times! Only BCP holders benefit from such a system. The rest of them, too bad.
There is competition in the form of CTS like 39, 161, 168, 965 and 969. Such competition could be further enhanced if 169 (competitor to 856) were returned back to SBST as it is based in AMK Int.
It would be better if one single company were put in charge of subway lines as the costs of building and maintaining such systems are extremely high.
If SBS hadn't won the NEL tender back in 1999, SMRT and Tibs wouldn't even have to merge. Who knows, maybe Comfort wouldn't have thought of acquiring DelGro in the subsequent years (inspired in part by the SMRT-Tibs deal).Originally posted by sbst275:Nope I disgree provided SMRT can provide frequency like the NEL. Otherwise, SMRT should be the one giving up instead
Em... It was DelGro that initated the mergerOriginally posted by iveco:If SBS hadn't won the NEL tender back in 1999, SMRT and Tibs wouldn't even have to merge. Who knows, maybe Comfort wouldn't have thought of acquiring DelGro in the subsequent years (inspired in part by the SMRT-Tibs deal).
Another rail operator is to make sure the older one provides good frequency... NEL is 5-7 mins, SMRT is still at 7-10 minsOriginally posted by lwflee:I agree with ppl that feels that the LTA is the most incompetent.
The implementation of the LRT is a huge fiasco.
Also, i agree that it is downright stupid and abusurd to talk about competetion between the mrt operators. How can you talk about competition when the 2 products are totally non-substitutable? Unless it is thought that commuters will decide en-masse to change their destinations (eg. Workplaces) or point of origin (eg. Homes) simply because one operator offers a better service, that suggestion reeks of ignorance and incompetence.
I suggest that no one can be that stupid and therefore, the introduction of another operator must be motivated by other reasons...
OK... After the SARS period, SMRT placed the train frequency at 7-8 mins on accout of poor ridership. This became worst and now is at 7-10 mins.Originally posted by lwflee:Explain how. Thanks
But then you are merely describing the final result. This could be attributed to any number of reasons:Originally posted by sbst275:OK... After the SARS period, SMRT placed the train frequency at 7-8 mins on accout of poor ridership. This became worst and now is at 7-10 mins.
Wheras the NEL is still at 5-7 mins though ridership is lower (Count it by ridership per km).
So, who is willing to provide more trains?