Recently a woman politician was demanded to apologize in....
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the Paliament.The reason is becoz she was "thought" to say(or whisper,i cant remember clearly) something inapproriate.What she whisper in the parliament was "s**T" n "rubbish",n she was demanded to make an apologize for her misbehaviour.I understand about the word "s**t",but "rubbish" also counted as vulgar word???And somemore "whisper" n "say it out loud" there is a big difference.She might be whisper to herself or so.Anyway,i am not taking any side,so just post your own comment about this incident.
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If she's a guy, she would have gotten slapped by xxx over it.
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actually nowadays shi isnt vulgar liao lor, but why sgforums still have filter for all these..
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i m waiting someone scolding words like Fuck, knnbccb etc in the parliament
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Originally posted by laurence82:actually nowadays shi isnt vulgar liao lor, but why sgforums still have filter for all these..
We set the standards. haha -
Originally posted by deli_1971:i m waiting someone scolding words like Fuck, knnbccb etc in the parliament In Taiwan, maybe.
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Hmmm... although these words aren't exactly what people'll consider as 'vulgar language', i do agree with the Speaker that such language is unbecoming of an MP during a parliamentary session.
Apparently after being made to apologise yesterday, she left straightaway in a huff even though she was supposed to raise 2 questions afterwards. Well well... i guess she was probably pissed and intended to resign her NMP post... i'd be glad if she does that, cos i wouldn't want people of this calibre in our parliament. -
btw, who is this lady, and where u all get the news?
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where is Freedom of Speech.
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Oh, she's one of the new young lady NMPs (the Eunice Olsen batch) for this parliament.. i think it was in the Straits Times yesterday, if i'm not wrong..Originally posted by laurence82:btw, who is this lady, and where u all get the news? -
heh... dunno which is worse... an MP who always skips parliament/sleeps during the sessions/doesn't contribute to the discussions, or one who doesn't fall asleep but keeps muttering 'sh*t' and 'rubbish' during the sessions..
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at least she's not pretendious.Originally posted by cornyfish2000:heh... dunno which is worse... an MP who always skips parliament/sleeps during the sessions/doesn't contribute to the discussions, or one who doesn't fall asleep but keeps muttering 'sh*t' and 'rubbish' during the sessions..
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hahahahahahaahaahahahaahahahahhahahaahahahahahahahah...anyone ever check if we the only country in the world that this thing can happened?
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i'm always very entertained by the parliamentary fights in Taiwan!Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):hahahahahahaahaahahahaahahahahhahahaahahahahahahahah...anyone ever check if we the only country in the world that this thing can happened? -
huh?? WWE better lah... i just like the way the whole taiwan tried to impersonate their president... hahhahahaahahaahhahahahaaOriginally posted by cornyfish2000:i'm always very entertained by the parliamentary fights in Taiwan! -
whenever i watch the parliment talk on tv, my vocab also kenna reduced to shit and rubbish, or any 2 other words with the same meaningsOriginally posted by cornyfish2000:heh... dunno which is worse... an MP who always skips parliament/sleeps during the sessions/doesn't contribute to the discussions, or one who doesn't fall asleep but keeps muttering 'sh*t' and 'rubbish' during the sessions.. -
they dun scold.Originally posted by Parka: In Taiwan, maybe.
they just whack 1st, talk later. -
She is a PhD academic in NUSOriginally posted by cornyfish2000:Oh, she's one of the new young lady NMPs (the Eunice Olsen batch) for this parliament.. i think it was in the Straits Times yesterday, if i'm not wrong.. -
In Taiwan,their parliament not only scold,but also fight.In Singapore,our parliament cant even mutter "sh*t" or "rubbish",these are 2 extreme poles.....I think we still have alot to learn from westerners.
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Although i want to be neutral in this topic,but honestly speaking,i quite sympathize her.....Becoz it is not easy to be an NMPs in Singapore,considering that they dont have any "real power" on their hands.Originally posted by cornyfish2000:Oh, she's one of the new young lady NMPs (the Eunice Olsen batch) for this parliament.. i think it was in the Straits Times yesterday, if i'm not wrong.. -
PAP members can eat "shit" and talk "rubbish" all they want. Isn't that what they specialise in everyday?
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I am more interested in finding out what triggered her to say that. Did her comment highlight the fact that there is a problem in the quality of the debate?Originally posted by drawer:the Paliament.The reason is becoz she was "thought" to say(or whisper,i cant remember clearly) something inapproriate.What she whisper in the parliament was "s**T" n "rubbish",n she was demanded to make an apologize for her misbehaviour.I understand about the word "s**t",but "rubbish" also counted as vulgar word???And somemore "whisper" n "say it out loud" there is a big difference.She might be whisper to herself or so.Anyway,i am not taking any side,so just post your own comment about this incident. -
The whole house is supposed to be creative and talented people. I hope they will read this thread.Originally posted by sarek_home:I am more interested in finding out what triggered her to say that. Did her comment highlight the fact that there is a problem in the quality of the debate?
They can debate this incident in a greater perspective and not let it be buried under the weight of purantanism or legalistic governance which is a outdated deviation from today's real world of economic competitiveness and progress.
Good corporate governance is not just concerned with pure semantics in words but should be more concerned with intent and context. Past standards of governance is too narrow and too steeped in micro-control and negative-regulations. The word "shit#$%^&" can mean goodness versus lousiness if NMPs or newer and younger members care to study the matter. -
In the spirit of freedom of speech, I need an explanation as to why her words were considered "unparliamentary".
Certainly people are entitled to express their opinions on certain policies with words which denote the strongness of their views, as people do during day to day conversation. Making the Parliament an exception to this goes against one's freedom of expression.
If the MPs present found it tough to withstand "shit" and "rubbish", I seriously wonder how the males endured through their two and a half years of national service. If this ruling is part of a rule of etiquette, I hope that it will be changed. No point sticking to a rigid set of expression. -
It seemed she was angry that the topic she wanted to discuss, sth regarding the varsity fee hike or foreign talents, was cut short.Originally posted by sarek_home:I am more interested in finding out what triggered her to say that. Did her comment highlight the fact that there is a problem in the quality of the debate?
I certainly feel that PAP was overreacting and it was unnecessary to humiliate Dr Ong like that. Seemed like PAP would rather have sleeping MP than NMP who ask questions. How are we going to progress?