Now tat u hve realize the follies of yr doggy way…I forgive u…n treat u humanly…tis topic is abt extravagance rit, wad is a air-con bus depot compared to the $$$ we put on the table for these so called FTs…peanuts…we could air-con all the bus depot in Singapore, don’t u agree…then it is for Singaporeans…wad hve these FTs achieved…it will be splashed all over the ST, propagating abt the achievements of the top-notch FTs….it was top talent rit, why were these Phillpe’s follower not around anymore…and Jackson did a fabulous job with his team of Singaporeans….if we do not help our own pple, giving tem opportunities to be “trained up”, who will help u. U r detached frm the reality, our IT engineers for eg. salary r depressed by these Indian engineers..n most of these, I say, most of these huh…don’t put words in my mouth…cannot deliver….the best of these Indian IT engineers would not be in Singapore, it’s the 3-rated tat hve nowhere to go..tat wants to come to Singapore….the same goes for these Mainland Chinese engineers..tey r in the same category as these Indians….I said before, tis is not a thread about foreign talents. If u attack about indian IT engineers or china ones, frankly they r performing well in their fields. They r not 3rd rated engineers tat have nowhere to go, they r some of the top scholars in their country, tat is why they r chosen to come here. U probably don;t knwo much about them and quick to say tat they r lousy. If they r tat bad, then they won't even be employed be private companies even if they come here. I don't think u had made a frank assessment of their capabilities.
If our own software engineers r not given the chance to program, to do coding, very quickly, tey will lose their skillsetsÂ…..wad will happen to tem..taxidrivers..hawkers..etc..when u make programming, u r facing competition from the whole world. If we follow anti-competition system, the whole company will be at a disadvantage and may fold. In tat case singaporean become taxidrivers and hawkers, but the one buying from them become lesser
Hey, these Plasma n LCD TVs was purchased a few yrs ago…I think 3 – 5 yrs back…was Singapore economy good at tat point in time…u shld know…First, i don't think they r bought 3-5 years ago. They r probably bought 1-2 years ago. It is not 15-20 K. u can buy the whole thetre system with 15-20k. Tablet Pc ? Wat has tat got to do with LCD ?
Those Fujitsu 42’’ or 43” Plasma in HDB Toa Payoh was purchased I think, 4 -5 yrs back…wad was the price then…$15 – 18K per Plasma Ok..todays price ranges frm 7k – 9k.
R u aware tat some school require their students to use tablet pcs…how much is tablet pc cost…3 – 4k…how can the average family afford tablet PCs…
Ya, then donÂ’t call it subsidize housingÂ….HDB public housing policy was not wrong in the beginningÂ…its was a lofty aspiration under LKY tat Singaporeans hve a decent roof over their headÂ….i hve tremendous respect 4 LKYÂ….even though some of his policy..like graduate mum policyÂ…hve a lump in my throatÂ….LKY heart is for SingaporeÂ…along the wayÂ…it was treated as a cash cow..to milk SingaporeansÂ…anyway its another topicÂ…sorri I driftedÂ…Generally, Gov hospital is still cheaper than private ones for the same treatment. Generally, public housing of the same room size on the same location is cheaper compared to private housing. In a way the price is reduced. If u compared the housing os singapore to other countries, it is really cheaper despite our small land size
HeyÂ…did u rememberÂ…some private condoÂ…prices was lower than some EC condoÂ…just like gahment hospital was more expensive than private hospital..until Khaw Boon Wah became Health Minister n he did a good job exposing the price discrepancyÂ…
Tats their job man…u cuckoo…tey r paid to improve…but to always pass on cost to consumers…isn’t it tad Singaporeans become suckers…I understand tat for MRt card, there is a deposit…n there is a timelimit…I think 2 years ago, it was reported tat these unclaimed deposits, due to the timelimit, was in millions of $$$...hey, these monies belong to Singaporeans n not MRT…r tey accountable…or it just add up to the profits of MRT…commo…HK MTR r even cheaper than Singapore…the same goes for Shanghai MRT…why…tell me why…because it is public transport..n these opearators were smart to tap into rentals to help subsidise the fares to remain affordable…do tey n can tey put their own MRT, SBS pple into their PTC..no possible..as there r regulations…Both HK, Shanghai have LCDs, how come tey can maintain their “affordable” rates..u tell me…or yr understudy trips did not include HK n ShanghaiMost technological improving need to spend money. U don't expect the people who develop new technologies to eat grass. If improvements r needed, than we expect to pay a price for it. If u feel tat it is their job to improve, then we have to pay for these improvements. U think ezlink cards drop from the sky ? If u ask me, r HK public transport cheaper than singapore ? I have checked the pricing for both and find tat for the same kind fo transport, it is about the same. For HK, the price is HK$ 4 to 12.50 ($0.80 to 2.50 singapore). For aircon buses, it is approximately HK$12, which is $2.40. If u ask me, they r about the same.
CommoÂ…tis is election yrÂ…will there be a price increase in bus fareÂ…wannabetÂ…I thought we r talking about whether mobile TV or air con depot should be done or not. If they don't put these up, u think our fares will remain the same ? U think they will stop earning any money ? U have gone out of point and attack on other things and not on whether should mobile TV or aircon depot. U talk about earning money of thr CEO of taxidrivers, btu then again the people in management is always earning much mroe money than the people at the bottom. U can compare the salary of bill gate and one of its production worker and u will find tat there is a great difference as well. Tat is business isn't it ? U don't expect the CEO of a company tat employ a few hundred people to earn the income of a taxidriver.
N u believe every single word tad comes out frm SBS, MRT….u r another sucker…so do u agree tad I said tat u r naïve…simplistic…it is true rit…
WahlauÂ…Singaporeans cheating bus faresÂ…wad abt tem cheating Singaporeans of millions of $$$..do we hve a recourseÂ…all their own ppleÂ…
Remember..christopher something, a ST reporter highlighted tad a CEO,ex-MP of one taxi company…I forget the name..earns abt $1.4 million…n then he was removed…good 4 him…n I do applaud the gahment for doing tis…commo…our fellow Singaporeans…texidrivers pays abt $250 in cost to run a taxi, including diesel per day….rain or shine…tey need to make $250 to break even…then tey can make a living…so at the end of the day.,…don’t be naïve…hve a heart for Singapore n Singaporeans…[/
Of courseÂ…u dumb assÂ…everyone wants to enjoy wad..who wants to work damn hard to earn his monies..we e not living in a real world in SingaporeÂ…for all yr understudy trips r holiday tripsÂ….u do not c the underbelly of the complexity of todays multipolar worldÂ….does every comfort, every luxury do u good eternallyÂ…or a balance view of the world, being able to thrive n survive is dire circumstances..or our newer generations expect to be spoonfed, nvr exposed to the world..u cÂ…if u do not hve a heart for Singaporeans, then of course, u wish every Singaporeans to be like u, a simpleton..who nvr sees the real worldÂ…let me give u an analogyÂ…there is a frog in the well..he gets warm n cosyÂ…as it was cooked graduallyÂ…degree by degreeÂ….he does not feel itÂ…until he was cookedÂ….Singaporeans r just like tatÂ…too comfortableÂ…too concerned with gahment propaganda..tat we r number 1 in tis or tatÂ…commoÂ….other countries r pasting us byÂ….when was the last time tad any Chinese gahment provincial leaders were here in Singapore to learn frm SingaporeÂ…tey hve all gone to Europe and USÂ…..so shld we wake up frm our slumber or we live in a air-con worldÂ…not knowing wadever is happening around the worldÂ…if u still cannot get itÂ…then nothing will..periodÂ…I think u r getting out of point. u think having no aircon in depot will make everyone suffer so badly tat they will see the real world ? Waaa... no aircon depot, everyone will know how life is at third world country, they will know the suffering of peopel without hands and leg etc ? Wat r u talking about ?!?! U want to make life difficult just to see everyone suffer and know wat is suffering? Wat has an aircon depot got to do with tis ?!?! U think we make any imporvement and can compete with china just because we scrapped a aircon depot ? We lose our competitiveness because we have an aircon depot ? Wat r u talking about ?!?! U r exaggerating like no tomorrow ! U miught as well say just because we put an aircon depot in toa payoh, men will evolved to a creature tat can't stand the heat, get a twisted mind and the whole galaxy perish.
The environment we r brought up with shapes our thinking, behaviour...so living in a air-con world only makes u an air-head...full of nothing...understand...yah right.. anyway u just show yourself to be nothing but a pig head tat think u r the greatest and being vulgar, with nothing for content except verbal abuses. u just show yourself not even capable of talking without any insults. If I am an air head because of air con, u r a pig head because u probably grew up in a pig farm. "Kian" is good enough. Don't be "Gay kian"
Originally posted by stupidissmart:Like I say..PTC consist of their own pple…where does consumer interest come to play..do tey really think for the man-in-the-street..Ya by all means earn money..tats is wat a service provider shld do, but to pass on cost everytime..tis is too much..it is a public and basic transportation…not a rental car…u idiot…Why..outto point again…why shld we have a air-con bus depot when knowingly, these associated cost for TVmobile, easylink, air-con are going to be pass onto consumer wholesale. Why the CEO example...if he is not drawing too high a salary...wad makes the gahment removes him, then give him some face, to be an advisor..The CEO for Taxi company is a political pok-barrel appointment….until he was removed..good for him and Singapore…we do not need such “selfish” CEO. Tad is why i say u cannot see things...nvr analysis wad n why so policy r in place....guess u nvr learn...
I thought we r talking about whether mobile TV or air con depot should be done or not. If they don't put these up, u think our fares will remain the same ? U think they will stop earning any money ? U have gone out of point and attack on other things and not on whether should mobile TV or aircon depot. U talk about earning money of thr CEO of taxidrivers, btu then again the people in management is always earning much mroe money than the people at the bottom. U can compare the salary of bill gate and one of its production worker and u will find tat there is a great difference as well. Tat is business isn't it ? U don't expect the CEO of a company tat employ a few hundred people to earn the income of a taxidriver.
Originally posted by stupidissmart:If u r ignorant of the world..its suffering…then u know the blessing we hve in Singapore…do u take it for granted or tat we need to “teach” our new generations how difficult it is for Singapore to be wad it is today…u nvr travel so u don’t know, except 4 yr holidays…wad hve u seen…wad do u know…wad hve u experience…damn it…fucxing idiot….Wad is making life difficult….just taking non air-con bus….pple in Indonesia, India does not hve shoes, enough food on the table…the more I think of it…u r just a young, ignorant fool…..U need to fight to hve a place amongst the top tier nation.Wad is going to happen to Singapore…if we hve fools like u to run Singapore, we r dead meat…..where is the fire in the belly, the stomach to fight…in a air-con bus depot….always to confortable..like the frog being cooked…sorry, man….u r just like the pathetic frog
I think u r getting out of point. u think having no aircon in depot will make everyone suffer so badly tat they will see the real world ? Waaa... no aircon depot, everyone will know how life is at third world country, they will know the suffering of peopel without hands and leg etc ? Wat r u talking about ?!?! U want to make life difficult just to see everyone suffer and know wat is suffering? Wat has an aircon depot got to do with tis ?!?! U think we make any imporvement and can compete with china just because we scrapped a aircon depot ? We lose our competitiveness because we have an aircon depot ? Wat r u talking about ?!?! U r exaggerating like no tomorrow ! U miught as well say just because we put an aircon depot in toa payoh, men will evolved to a creature tat can't stand the heat, get a twisted mind and the whole galaxy perish.
Originally posted by stupidissmart:YaÂ….if u tok to reasonable ppleÂ…I be politeÂ…but if u encountered an idiotic dog, wad do u doÂ…u kick the shit outto himÂ…lucky there r pple like snow leopard who still tries to knock some senses into u, if there is any leftÂ….it is good tat more forumers r getting to see yr one-sided view, as usualÂ….
yah right.. anyway u just show yourself to be nothing but a pig head tat think u r the greatest and being vulgar, with nothing for content except verbal abuses. u just show yourself not even capable of talking without any insults. If I am an air head because of air con, u r a pig head because u probably grew up in a pig farm. "Kian" is good enough. Don't be "Gay kian"
Originally posted by stupidissmart:Of course, technology involves cost...all idiots knows it...but all wad expense...there was this gahment dept tat spend 5 million on a website...shit...wasted taxpayers monies....IRAS online tax submission...fuxk..u cannot even get in...look at the no. of post in ST forum.
Most technological improving need to spend money. U don't expect the people who develop new technologies to eat grass. If improvements r needed, than we expect to pay a price for it. If u feel tat it is their job to improve, then we have to pay for these improvements. U think ezlink cards drop from the sky ? If u ask me, r HK public transport cheaper than singapore ? I have checked the pricing for both and find tat for the same kind fo transport, it is about the same. For HK, the price is HK$ 4 to 12.50 ($0.80 to 2.50 singapore). For aircon buses, it is approximately HK$12, which is $2.40. If u ask me, they r about the same.
Originally posted by stupidissmart:Do u worked for the gahmentÂ…how do u know whether these FTs r really FTs or mediocre talentsÂ…Yes..i hve real life experience with themÂ…there are only a few real talents..most of them will take Singapore as a busstopÂ…on the way to USA and Europe or go back to China where there are ample opportunitiesÂ…When u advertise for engineers, there are hundreds of applicants and more than half are foreigners..where do they come frm..Vietnam, Cambodia, India, Phillipines, China etcÂ…I hve conducted interviews and it makes me sick tat these socalled FTs are considered FTs at allÂ…n I am objectiveÂ…some of these are even sponsored by our gahment for their MBAs, paid S$2000 every monthÂ…at taxpayers expensesÂ…r these real talentsÂ…I really doubt soÂ…we hve opened too much a BIG door for these mediocre talents to come to Singapore
I said before, tis is not a thread about foreign talents. If u attack about indian IT engineers or china ones, frankly they r performing well in their fields. They r not 3rd rated engineers tat have nowhere to go, they r some of the top scholars in their country, tat is why they r chosen to come here. U probably don;t knwo much about them and quick to say tat they r lousy. If they r tat bad, then they won't even be employed be private companies even if they come here. I don't think u had made a frank assessment of their capabilities.
Originally posted by stupidissmart:Do not comment on things tat u r ill-informed or just tok for the sake of toking…our Singaporean programmers does have the talent except that they are not employed because the employment cost is higher..ie S$1,500 – S$2000 for new graduate…u can employed a Indian programmer for S$800 or less. Do our Singapore programmers stand a chance…even if they are damn good…without practice..they lose their skillset….pls forget it…don’t tok through yr ass…its sickening…where u just shoot where u hve totally lack of understanding nor knowledge abt….
when u make programming, u r facing competition from the whole world. If we follow anti-competition system, the whole company will be at a disadvantage and may fold. In tat case singaporean become taxidrivers and hawkers, but the one buying from them become lesser
Originally posted by stupidissmart:Wad we r toking abt is extravaganceÂ…n it is bought more than 3 years agoÂ…I am sureÂ…because in 2002, I went pass HDB hubÂ….wadever it is, why r u in denialÂ…if there are too much wasteÂ…just cut the wasteÂ…why defend itÂ…gahment has also setup a cut waste panel n they acknowledge it that there are areas in which they cld have make better use of resources and moneyÂ…n they ask public for suggestions to cut wasteÂ….r u ill-informed again or simply do not knowÂ…
First, i don't think they r bought 3-5 years ago. They r probably bought 1-2 years ago. It is not 15-20 K. u can buy the whole thetre system with 15-20k. Tablet Pc ? Wat has tat got to do with LCD ?
Originally posted by stupidissmart:Ya..daÂ…then we does our Minister of Health, KBW publicise the hospital rates in 2003Â…public hospital operations cost more than private..why does KBW need to fix tis discrepancy..n publicise in the ST...u tell me...
Generally, Gov hospital is still cheaper than private ones for the same treatment. Generally, public housing of the same room size on the same location is cheaper compared to private housing. In a way the price is reduced. If u compared the housing os singapore to other countries, it is really cheaper despite our small land size