The Straits Times ..25th March 2005
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By Christopher Teo kian lam..Under the forum..
Here's my opinion:
I believe we all singaporeans should stand side by side and stay true to our values , even if other taiwanese, indonesians or philipinos try to burn our flag , we should stand still.
I myself couldn't believe the fact that , we gave $22 million during 1998 to help out the crisis and humanitarian missions and we get called "little red dot" and Habibie called us insensitive friend..just one of the company did a waste throw around indonesian waters and we get a bad protest a bare 4 months after the tsunami?
Singaporeans are so well-behaved and we have never protested outside their embassies , I think anyone would rise from their grave like what LKY have mentioned , if anything like this happens in this future.
I have particularly noted down my emotions and toned down what i am especially trying to say. -
singaporean are not well behave...they just simple too scare to get thrown in jail..that's all
so wat if they call us little red dot..indeed we are.. -
Yes!!! we are and we'll always be. A tiny dot cannot afford to offence others even we have the most advance weapons within our region.Originally posted by themoment:singaporean are not well behave...they just simple too scare to get thrown in jail..that's all so wat if they call us little red dot..indeed we are.. 
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i have no more comments after replying to a thread on the singapore embassy thingy, cuz the thread got closed after i posted.
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orrrrrrrhhhhhhh
*points finger at offending posters..*
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after seeing how people got arrested for protesting against the iraq war who do youy think would protest?
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yeahOriginally posted by oldbreadstinks:after seeing how people got arrested for protesting against the iraq war who do youy think would protest?
anywaes...police here so efficient...and anywaes...we got better things to think of and do.. -
Lets get united mentally .
It always seems right for others to burn our flag , but wrong for us to burn other pple flag.
Well , this is singapore. -
its being polite...u wanna burn other ppl's flag...go burn lor.....god give u common sense to use never use.....Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:Lets get united mentally .
It always seems right for others to burn our flag , but wrong for us to burn other pple flag.
Well , this is singapore.
our class of living is already better than most countries...we dont get aggravated by these kinda issues and start burning flags.....if anything....we know the government would handle it..we show our displeasure also for wat... -
buy flags to burn? so much $ ah?
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I think that it would be proper to take a few things into context when looking at Indo-Sing relations.
During Habibie's presidency, the first conflict occured when SM/MM Lee mentioned in a interview that he believe along the lines that Habibie would not last long. When Singapore offered aid to Indonesia then, Teo Chee Hearn delivered the supplies to GEN Wiranto, and not Habibie the president. To Habibie, it was a grave insult, and it was following this that he uttered his little red dot comments.
Looking at the current protests about 'toxic' waste, it seems to me that the protesters hardly represented the Indonesian masses. Far from Indonesians as a whole being ungrateful - it is far more likely that the demonstrators were hired by specific interest groups who wanted to sow discord.
How would the average Indonesian know about the contents of various passing vessels? How would the average Indonesian know about the Basel Convention? And the fact that the police was conspiciously absent hints at the whole event being staged.
Given the precarious position of SBY now, it might be premature to conclude that he was the one to sanction the event. Given Singapore's various anti terrorism drives, including the provision of evidence against the JI preacher Abu Bashir it is hardly shocking that there are factions in Indonesia that have little love for Singapore. -
got arrested meh? just kena warning niah i think.Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:after seeing how people got arrested for protesting against the iraq war who do youy think would protest? -
yeah the police brought them back for questioning i think, and if i didn't remember wrongly , also got send people to their houseOriginally posted by whack:got arrested meh? just kena warning niah i think. -
well said, well said!Originally posted by bumbleb:I think that it would be proper to take a few things into context when looking at Indo-Sing relations.
During Habibie's presidency, the first conflict occured when SM/MM Lee mentioned in a interview that he believe along the lines that Habibie would not last long. When Singapore offered aid to Indonesia then, Teo Chee Hearn delivered the supplies to GEN Wiranto, and not Habibie the president. To Habibie, it was a grave insult, and it was following this that he uttered his little red dot comments.
Looking at the current protests about 'toxic' waste, it seems to me that the protesters hardly represented the Indonesian masses. Far from Indonesians as a whole being ungrateful - it is far more likely that the demonstrators were hired by specific interest groups who wanted to sow discord.
How would the average Indonesian know about the contents of various passing vessels? How would the average Indonesian know about the Basel Convention? And the fact that the police was conspiciously absent hints at the whole event being staged.
Given the precarious position of SBY now, it might be premature to conclude that he was the one to sanction the event. Given Singapore's various anti terrorism drives, including the provision of evidence against the JI preacher Abu Bashir it is hardly shocking that there are factions in Indonesia that have little love for Singapore.
SMAPLionHeart, did we actually gave the Indon $22m in 1998? care to give the link? -
mentioned in straits times..
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Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:By Christopher Teo kian lam..Under the forum..
Here's my opinion:
I believe we all singaporeans should stand side by side and stay true to our values , even if other taiwanese, indonesians or philipinos try to burn our flag , we should stand still.
I myself couldn't believe the fact that , we gave $22 million during 1998 to help out the crisis and humanitarian missions and we get called "little red dot" and Habibie called us insensitive friend..just one of the company did a waste throw around indonesian waters and we get a bad protest a bare 4 months after the tsunami?
Singaporeans are so well-behaved and we have never protested outside their embassies , I think anyone would rise from their grave like what LKY have mentioned , if anything like this happens in this future.
I have particularly noted down my emotions and toned down what i am especially trying to say.
Yes, Singaporeans are too tame. But don't you think that if our neighbour appeared to have planned an offensive, we shouldn't be falling into it's trap? They are prepared and we're not. Our people in that country will be in danger! -
The fact that we can't even protest against policies and happenings elsewhere shows how shallow this establishment is.
I would hold a campaign to get Myanmar to release Aung San Suu Ky if it was possible, but apparently it serves "our" interests to have the anal-rententive generals in charge there. -
hey small boi, the protest is in Jarkarta. Are there any protest in Medan ?Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:By Christopher Teo kian lam..Under the forum..
Here's my opinion:
I believe we all singaporeans should stand side by side and stay true to our values , even if other taiwanese, indonesians or philipinos try to burn our flag , we should stand still.
I myself couldn't believe the fact that , we gave $22 million during 1998 to help out the crisis and humanitarian missions and we get called "little red dot" and Habibie called us insensitive friend..just one of the company did a waste throw around indonesian waters and we get a bad protest a bare 4 months after the tsunami?
Singaporeans are so well-behaved and we have never protested outside their embassies , I think anyone would rise from their grave like what LKY have mentioned , if anything like this happens in this future.
I have particularly noted down my emotions and toned down what i am especially trying to say.
Use your cockroach brain to think first before you post lah.
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that is the very " 22m issue" that got dr chee into trouble with the government ....Originally posted by raihanraihan:well said, well said!
SMAPLionHeart, did we actually gave the Indon $22m in 1998? care to give the link? -
if pple burn spore flag then let them burn lor? i mean if we get angry nothing much can be done right???? and i do agree that we are a small red dot. hehehe. anyways , in case you didn't realise, whenever spore or more accurately pap loses the temper, it's always a calculated outburst. We offend pple then pple burn more flags right? then we get angrier and offend again and burn and offend and burn and offend.....
vicious cycle. tsk. so childish. heheheh. Anyway lar, if pple willing ot buy flags to burn we also earn money by selling flags right? singaporeans should learn to be more thick skin.